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  • S21GT Efexx: May 15, 2011
May 16, 2011, 08:19:44 AM +0100 - Efexx - UKGPL Season 21 (2011) GT
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
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Hristo Itchov
 Red GT
Mirage M1 GT 1967 1 1:04.162
117.072mph
1 49:27.691
113.900mph
45 1:04.344
116.741mph
Firestone  
EvilClive
 Red GT
Porsche 910 GT 1967 6 +1.015
115.249mph
2 +20.789
113.108mph
45 1:05.270
115.085mph
Dunlop  
fpolicardi
 Blue GT
Lola T70 MkIII GT 1967 2 +0.256
116.607mph
3 +59.024
111.679mph
45 1:04.998
115.566mph
Goodyear  
jhalli
 Grey GT
Ford GT40 MkI GT 1967 8 +1.840
113.808mph
4 +1:02.926
111.535mph
45 1:05.290
115.050mph
Goodyear  
Cookie
 Green GT
Chaparral Mk2F GT 1967 4 +0.400
116.347mph
5 +1:09.676
111.288mph
45 1:03.987
117.392mph
Firestone  
FullMetalGasket
 Orange GT
Ford GT40 MkIIB GT 1967 5 +0.968
115.332mph
6 +1L
111.319mph
44 1:05.460
114.751mph
Goodyear  
Phil Thornton
 Green GT
Mirage M1 GT 1967 7 +1.379
114.609mph
7 +24.916
110.393mph
44 1:05.903
113.979mph
Firestone  
blito
 Green GT
Ferrari 330/P4 GT 1967 10 +2.384
112.878mph
8 (+2) +2L
108.005mph
43 1:06.450
113.041mph
Firestone  
happyal
 Blue GT
Chaparral Mk2F GT 1967 9 +2.018
113.502mph
9 +26.383
107.060mph
43 1:06.530
112.905mph
Firestone  
Nigel Smith
 Orange GT
Chaparral Mk2D GT 1967 11 +2.534
112.624mph
10 +14L
106.353mph
31 1:05.821
114.121mph
DQ
Firestone  
Geoff65
 Grey GT
Chaparral Mk2D GT 1967 12 +3.633
110.798mph
11 +17.852
105.493mph
31 1:08.244
110.070mph
Disco
Firestone  
vosblod
 Grey GT
Mirage M1 GT 1967 13 +5.168
108.345mph
12 +36L
95.805mph
9 1:09.854
107.533mph
Disco
Firestone  
Samb
 Blue GT
Mirage M1 GT 1967 3 +0.275
116.573mph
13 +45L
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Disco
Firestone  
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Lola T70 MkIII GT 1967 14 14 DNS ---
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Goodyear  

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Al brakes in his normal place for the last corner and Jason is unable to stop before punting him off the track. Jason does wait for Al to regain the track in front of him, but this does not really alter the fact that he was just far too late on the brakes to avoid the contact.


Another good race with just a few incidents for the Mods to look at.

This short track provided some close racing at times with the added complication of slower cars being lapped. Driver behaviour by both the faster cars and those being lapped was excellent and everyone should take round of applause for good driving.
Some drivers performed spectacular "offs" and survived...others were not so lucky. Geoff's move on the S/F straight to allow Evil to lap him is worthy of note..there is getting out of the way, and there is getting RIGHT out of the way!!!


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Cookie was unfortuate in losing concentration 3 laps from the end when in a solid 2nd place and is forced to perform a Shift-R. He duly pulls into the pits, but only pauses for 1 second and goes again.......tut! tut! He should have been stationary for 10 seconds!! as per the rules for the GT's
The general ruling on short pitstops is that the shortfall is multiplied by 3 and added to your race time so....9 x 3 =27 seconds to be added to Cookies total race time. Which will affect the race results.

  • Racing incident


Nigel was DQ'd by GPL for apparently going the wrong way. But the replay clearly shows that he has managed to perform an almost impossible move and get his car over the concrete retaining wall and into the woods. There is no way to drive back from there but Nigel does try to find a way out before giving up and hitting Shift-R.
As he gained no advantage from going the wrong way and did go to the pits as he should have afterwards, I think his position in the race stands.

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« Reply #30 on: May 15, 2011, 10:49:27 PM +0100 »

Not expecting to race here as we already had a full compliment. Unfortunately Steve had to drop out at short notice. Track I don't know, car I don't know and no practice.
But just turning up would plonk in a few grey points over others who might be missing and, as I was pencilled in to start the server anyway, just join, stay at the back and keep out of the way.
I did that, didn't get far, but still put something down for the Growling Greys.

Really need to get back into some practicing again as my current lack of form is highlighting my lack of wheel time.
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« Reply #31 on: May 15, 2011, 10:55:39 PM +0100 »

Waste of time......after the false start on _3......Screen freeze just after mid race. Not the best track for these big bangers, they weren't really designed to be run on postage stamps. Next........
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« Reply #32 on: May 15, 2011, 10:59:52 PM +0100 »

Well that's typical. My internet conked out on the first lap  censored. If only it happened a few minutes earlier. At the end of the pace lap, people were disappearing and suddenly GPL shouts 'Error on network device' or something new. Was hoping that the server had an issue but alas it was just me. Shame that as I was really looking forward to the race at Efexx.

Onto the next one......

Shame, Sam, you posted a great time in Qualifying. Get that new connection soon!
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« Reply #33 on: May 15, 2011, 11:09:14 PM +0100 »

About as good as I could have hoped for in the boat really - probably a better finish than I'd have managed at St Jovite in it though so not exactly a waste of time.
Shame Nige Got DQ'd for some reason and Dave was AWOL, team Orange will drop a bit tonight I fear Sad
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« Reply #34 on: May 15, 2011, 11:24:40 PM +0100 »

Yes Samb was warping as crazy until he dissappeared. I didn't know if he was still there cause came back after seconds...

My report after viewing the replay...

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« Reply #35 on: May 15, 2011, 11:29:39 PM +0100 »

"good" race for me ,as Ford Mk1 wasnt the best choice for this track, did some practise before the race and was quite happy with the car handling. In the race i did 2 mistakes one after i see Cookies car close ahead of me, and one when 5 laps to go, same time Fulvio passed me and i was dropped from 4th place to5th.

not a best day for Grey team as Geoff and Vosblod disconnected   Undecided

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« Reply #36 on: May 16, 2011, 09:35:05 AM +0100 »

Yes Samb was warping as crazy until he dissappeared. I didn't know if he was still there cause came back after seconds...

My report after viewing the replay...

Cheers

Axel
I saw replay and I have to apologize for hitting you Cookie while you were sideway. I saw you start for the outside but then you recollected when I had already gone for the inside.
My race was ruined when I steered to the pitwall following close Clive on the s/f straight, rebounded with a nice tounneau over the haybales.
Did the s&g of 10 sec. and restarted just ahead of FMG that was my shadow for almost all the rest of the race. In the end passed Juha playing in the haybales at his time.
I think Juha and me would be promoted 3rd and 4th Wink
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« Reply #37 on: May 16, 2011, 11:01:27 AM +0100 »

A great result for the Red Team and an inspired choice of cars  Grin

Hristo had already decided that he wanted to use the Mirage, but Paul was unable to join in so that left me with a choice of cars. I had done some practice runs and knew I could get the 2F into the 1:03's on race fuel and had tried the Porsche and found it to be approx 1.5secs slower, but easier to handle.

A quick team talk before the race decided things and I took the Porker so that I would have the option of the 2F at a faster circuit later in the series.
The short qually meant that I never quite got a good lap with a tow, but still managed a respectable 5th or 6th on the grid.
The lack of a tow in qually proved a problem in the first few laps tucked in behind a line of muscle cars, because my red needle was banging against the stop as we passed the end of the pits. It soon became apparent that I could keep up with the leaders by exploiting the road holding of the Porsche even though I would lose ground at the end of each straight.
One by one the leaders threw themselves off the road or made small mistakes and I climbed to 3rd place, Axel went off but the top speed of that "F almost blasted me off the track as he recovered and went by!!!. I tried to hold on to his slipstream, but feared that the excess revs would kill my engine, so  backed off and allowed Axel to pull away.
Fulvio was a threat until he clipped the end of the pit wall and vanished from my mirrors. Hristo had pulled away at the front with Cookie in pursuit, I was in a safe 3rd with Juha a good way behind and not closing at about half distance.

"If Axel makes a mistake I will be back on his tail and if he needs a pit stop I will have 2nd place" I thought . But as the laps counted down Cookie refused to make a big enough mistake for me to catch him and with 3 laps to go I had settled for 3rd place.
Then I saw a 2F on the grass just before the S/F line and a quick check with prib confirmed that it was Axel!! I was 2nd!! with 2 laps to go!!  woohoo. Grin
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« Reply #38 on: May 16, 2011, 11:38:39 AM +0100 »

Top result boys - see - you are much better when I am not there. LOL.

Well done both.
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« Reply #39 on: May 16, 2011, 12:00:37 PM +0100 »

Shame Nige Got DQ'd for some reason and Dave was AWOL, team Orange will drop a bit tonight I fear Sad

I'll check out that DQ, Tim. Nigel is still shown as scoring 17 so not too bad for a DQ. Suspect that might be an error... watch this space.
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« Reply #40 on: May 16, 2011, 02:09:55 PM +0100 »

Is there a replay anywhere?

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« Reply #41 on: May 16, 2011, 02:46:10 PM +0100 »

Nigel's DQ is a strange one. He has been DQ'ed because he has gone the wrong way!!!! BIG NO NO.

BUT he was outside the wall at the time  laugh

I don't think we have a rule to cover flying off the track and going rogue...

I will have to chat with the Evil one...

@Cookie - replay is uploaded in the usual place (UKGPL home page, top left)
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« Reply #42 on: May 16, 2011, 03:17:04 PM +0100 »

Nigel's DQ is a strange one. He has been DQ'ed because he has gone the wrong way!!!! BIG NO NO.
BUT he was outside the wall at the time  laugh
I don't think we have a rule to cover flying off the track and going rogue...
We have some reference to it here; https://www.ukgpl.com/index.php/rules/sporting
The policy is to reinstate undeserved DQ's due to network problems or the server losing them. If it is a 'proper' DQ then you should see black flags and pit in and wait till you can go, you are then back in the running.
If you don't pit GPL will DQ you and, unless there is a very good reason to reinstate someone, that should stand.

Obviously I've not looked at this particular issue but that is the UKGPL stance. Going the wrong way does tend to pick up a black flag although we have checkpoints switched off so GPL is normally pretty liberal.
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« Reply #43 on: May 16, 2011, 03:34:16 PM +0100 »

Going backwards always picks up a black flag, regardless of checkpoints. You can avoid it by stopping frequently for 1-2 seconds as you go backwards, each 50 meters or so.

This was a very tough race and I didn't expect to be leading from the start, but a good lap in Qualifying and apparently not so good (or clean) lap by Axel meant that I started at the front. Sam was impressive in his Mirage, but sadly suffered a disco again, so I was left to fend off very fast going Fulvio early on. I was a bit cautious and letting the oil temp go up over the first couple of laps, but that allowed Fulvio to keep within a striking distance and so I had to keep checking my mirror all the time. Lucky for me he went off at the 90 degree left hander (T3?) and that gave me some breathing space which I used to push more and open up a gap.

Eventually Axel made his way up to 2nd and the gap cemented at about 5 seconds, and it took some 6-7 laps until I could extend that to 6 seconds, but then it dropped to 5 again, lol. Axel was obviously very quick and I knew I cannot allow any mistakes.

Backmarkers were quite decent and despite the bad mirrors, they were aware enough to ease off as soon as I went side by side with them, but with these wide cars it was still a bit of a close call sometimes, especially going under braking into T2. Axel must've had some problems because the gap extended twice - first to 13 seconds (I think) and then to over 20 seconds. That was really important because of what happened next.

Approaching two cars towards the s/f line, I was aware that one of them was a backmarker for both myself and the other car (or so it appeared by looking at their speed difference), so I had quite a scare when the double-backmarker lost it and spun into the pit wall, putting up a lot of dust in the air. That distracted me enough to miss my turn-in point for T1 and go wide straight into the haybales. The car flipped into the air, spun around a couple of times and landed hard onto its wheels, but at least it didn't land onto its roof! I continued as quick as I can, but lost some 13 seconds as a result of that off as Cookie was shown 8 seconds behind on the next lap.

He kept pressing hard and the gap dropped to 7, but then extended to 11 as he probably had another problem. My second off came as I closed up on a backmarker towards T2 (or maybe it's T3? well, I mean the slow right) and he sort of zig-zagged around which unsettled by direction under braking and I went a bit too quick into the corner on the inside and off into the grass. As I recovered and closed up again on the same backmarker, he was barely controlling the car, losing the direction even on the straights - a prime example of severe over-driving.

Apart from those two problems I had a very consistent race. The car handled the same throughout the whole race and the lap times were very close regardless of fuel load. The left rear tire was a bit hot in the middle, but not enough to unsettle the car too much. I managed to achieve a very good rhythm and despite not being the fastest car on the track, it was enough to win the race.

Grats to Evil for taking 2nd!

P.S. A question - if someone misses the race, can they still take one of the chassis 4 times (10 races - 3+3+4)?
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« Reply #44 on: May 16, 2011, 05:09:16 PM +0100 »

OMG
Sorry green team I made a big mistake!

In Quali  didnt get a clean lap, so I started 4th.
Race was ok for me til the little touch with Fulvio,
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Axel Cookie - spotters reporting:
minor problems with right front suspension
didn't handicap me much but I had to be careful at braking.

Could get to 2nd place and kept it until 2 laps to go, when I overdid the hairpin2.
Crashed and had to wait until all the followers had passed to make a s+r.
Luckily was short way to box.
I made a  big error when I shortly stopped in my pit, didn't remember I have to wait 10 sec....

So I expect beeing penalized for this by some seconds  Roll Eyes

All in all great race, but I am not yet a cool and experienced GPL racedriver...

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