EvilClive
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« on: November 06, 2012, 08:03:43 PM +0000 » |
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A return to a familiar circuit for the GT's. No excuses for not "knowing" this track. Rouen, in northern France on the River Seine, is the capital of the Haute-Normandie (Upper Normandy) region and the historic capital city of Normandy. That information will not make your lap times any faster, nor will it increase your standing in your local community, but it does add an educational element to this race post. Teams can choose to run any cars they like, but in any race each all team members must drive different cars, so only one driver can drive the car that does not need to stop. Pit stop times are listed below with a choice of a single long stop or two shorter stops... the choice is yours. THIS RACE WILL HAVE A ROLLING START AND CARS ARE EXPECTED TO MAINTAIN THEIR GRID POSITIONS FOR THE FIRST LAP. THE POLE CAR WILL LEAD THE PACK AROUND AT A STEADY SPEED AND RACING WILL START AS CARS ENTER THE START FINISH STRAIGHT AT THE END OF LAP 1"Please ensure you are aware of the new in-series penalties for this season. Details are here. Drivers incurring a penalty will receive a PM informing them of this."Race list | iGOR | Server | T7_2 | IP address | 62.149.202.168 | Date | 11-11-2012 | Race time | Race starts at 09:30 UK time | Qualifying time | Between 30 and 60 minutes, starting no later than 21:00 UK time | Track | Rouen les Essarts | Mod | GT | Damage model | INT (Each driver is allowed a single Shift-R) | Race length | 27 laps | Replay | Available here |
REVISED PIT STOP TIMES SHOWN BELOW Rouen - GT | Single Stop Time | | Double Stop Time | | Post Race Time
Penalty | Ford GT40 Mk1 | No Stop | | N/A | | 0 | Porsche 910 | 31 | | 12 | | 41 | Mirage M1 | 45 | | 18 | | 55 | Ford GT40 Mk4 | 50 | | 19 | | 74 | Ford GT40 Mk2B | 59 | | 21 | | 60 | Ferrari 330/P4 | 65 | | 27 | | 75 | Lola T70 Mk3 | 100 | | 45 | | 110 | Chaparral Mk2D | 97 | | 44 | | 107 | Chaparral Mk2F | 110 | | 50 | | 120 |
First Pit Window is: 22 (to go on your pit board) to 10 (to go on your pit board) Second Pit Window is: 17 (to go on your pit board) to 8 (to go on your pit board)
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« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2012, 11:46:02 PM +0000 » |
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T7 server is set to 27 laps Long race and listening on Igor in Console session with OpenGL_V2. Ciao
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« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2012, 10:38:46 AM +0000 » |
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Looking 50/50 if I'll make this as my internet is still on the blink. Don't seem to have a connection at all at the mo so currently having to use my mobile
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« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2012, 08:41:55 PM +0000 » |
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Sorry guys - internet is back here but I have ping that's measured in seconds I won't be able to join you - If anyone wants to stand in for me then I;m sure Phil will appreciate the help!
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« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2012, 10:16:21 PM +0000 » |
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This was my first GT race in a very long time and for once I was actually enjoying driving the big beasts. OK so I wasn't fast but I was in perfect control of myself.... unlike certain others with whom I had to share this race track. I shall be submitting two incident reports tomorrow, being rear-ended twice in the space of 3 corners really isn't funny......
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« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2012, 10:28:21 PM +0000 » |
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Early bath for me . About half way in I put a wheel on the grass at T1 which caused me to spin and damage the engine. So I had to do a shiftR and a S&G. Then with about 4 laps to go my engine blew again so I had to pull out. Good luck to the remaining runners, there were some very fast drivers out there tonight!
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« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2012, 10:53:56 AM +0000 » |
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That was fun. I joined qually late as I was getting the kids sorted so I only had time for four laps. Tried too hard and made a mistake on each. I was on a 2:08 for the last run and managed to put a wheel on the grass at the last corner by being TOO cautious - braked a bit too hard and over rotated. Knew I was competitive with a few guys in front but Phil was too quick but maybe the pit stops would work in my favour? ARRRRGGGGGHHHH. Pit stops - hadn't looked up the window. Had to get Luke to log on to a laptop and show me the thread... still did a 2:11 whilst reading the laptop! At the start I was all over Stefano and when Nigel made a mistake ahead we moved up. I then got over hasty and span which let Stefano away with Nigel. I set about hunting them down and we passed a stricken Jason and Sky at Nouveau Monde. I could catch Nigel in the twisty bits but he drove away through the woods. We passed Stefano who was a bit wobbly and put in a few nose to tail (ish) laps until Nigel decided to stop for a picnic. I thought he might get away with it but no. So after that it was lonely. I nearly caught Phil at his stop but not quite and then he just pulled out 150 yards a lap until I was a mile behind. After that it was a case of trying to stay out of the way of the leaders, which was fine until Clouds and Al caught me in the wrong place. Advantage Sergio and apologies to Al. Then a big gold bruiser caught me up and barged me off the track - the bully. And him a Waza Great race though and for once I finished a GT race and I am sure I was catching Evil at the end...
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« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2012, 12:07:42 PM +0000 » |
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Relieved to score a podium here after a disappointing run of results in GT's. Tried really hard to pull out a lead during the opening laps but couldn't shake off Cookie who was applying really strong pressure until his pitstop. After several frustrating disconnects while making pitstops this season, I was very nervous about taking the 65 second single stop but thankfully this time, having simplified matters by dispensing with GPLWait & gone back to ye olde stoppewatch, I finally managed to get it right. Rejoined down in 7th or 8th but with others still to pit my hasty Prib calculations revealed that a podium was still possible, providing I could get the hammer down & not make any mistakes With Hristo seemingly too far ahead, the crucial gap seemed to be to Cookie who had a 27 second stop still to make, yet was lapping quickly some 35 seconds ahead - this was going to be close... I pushed pretty hard & managed to reduce the gap but then had a huge off in pursuit of Sergio's Porsche that undid all my hard work. Still, it proved to be enough & once Cookie had pitted I moved up to 3rd & set about trying to nick 2nd off Sergio. A full-on chase during the final laps allowed me to close up on Sergio but that Porsche looked pretty nimble through sectors 1 & 2, so I plotted a smash & grab raid down the straight for the final lap. The only slight flaw in my devious plan was I hadn't yet got close enough to Sergio to exploit the tow & then on the final lap just as I was lining up my final assault, we encounteed Paul at the hairpin, which worked out rather more kindly for Sergio than me. Not your fault at all Paul, I only needed to make the slightest of lifts, but that meant Sergio remained just out of reach. Congrats to Sergio & of course Hristo - also very nice to see Fulvio back on track again
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« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2012, 01:27:27 PM +0000 » |
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also very nice to see Fulvio back on track again Echo that. I should have said so.
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« Reply #9 on: November 12, 2012, 02:07:32 PM +0000 » |
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Then a big gold bruiser caught me up and barged me off the track - the bully. And him a Waza Sorry, Paul, but I really did not expect you to lift up and let me by there. It's a flat out corner with just about a single line through it, so even if planned, a side by side action through there is very difficult to pull off without slowing down a lot. I reacted as quickly as I could and slowed down as much as I could to keep the inside line, but the rear end stepped out a bit (the MK is such a big and heavy machine!). I didn't feel anything on my side, which probably means warp was involved as well and there was physically some gap between our cars. That or the thing is so heavy it cannot be affected by minor contact, lol. Anyway, feel free to submit a report if you must.
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« Reply #10 on: November 12, 2012, 03:34:33 PM +0000 » |
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I've tried at least 3 cars to have an idea of which one to choose for this race and, I've noticed that Mk1 and Porsches were almost the same, with only marginal differences in my hands with maybe only the Porsche immediately fast at the beginning and the Mk1 recovering the gap in very few laps due his better top speed. I opted for the Porsche because it was more comfortable but with 31 secs handicap. Like I had already said, for me, it is not the right thing there is a cars with no wait time or at least a S&G, because for the other cars we must add the deceleration to pit and the acceleration out of pit to take in count so my 31 secs of wait time have to be counted as 6+31+6=43 (that at last, is almost the gap I had from Hristo, but taking also in count he have had not lesser than 2 spinouts) meaning that also this time the calculation of wait times was wrong. Based on my race time instead, the Ferrari wait time has been perfect (look at the gap between me and Al Heller) and if also the Mk1 wait time would have been right, we could have been 3 sprinting for the checkered flag. Obviously 5 or 10 secs of gap are also good but absolutely not 45 or more. Anyway I made only a little mistake at Nuveau Monde during the beginning and no more mistakes for the rest of the race, and also with an almost perfect driving I had 47 secs of gap (on the 43 figured out due to the spot) ! At 2nd lap on the brake to Scierie I've seen Hristo hiding on the Right side so I kept myself to the outside leaving him the space to brake. H was at the grip limit but it was a astonishing nice move and after that, I've managed to keep the gap close untill at 2nd lap, at the esses preceding Sanson, H had clipped the kerb with the inside wheel and making a spinout that involved another car and I was lucky to avoid the crash just moving to the extreme left. After this event I remained on track 1 lap more and then I went to pit for my wait time. In a few secs Hristo has passed and has disappeared definitely. Exiting from the pits I begun to push hard. Pribluda shown me that I was 7, 6, 5, 4, 3 and...uhm...it seemed there was already one driver that would have to make the pit stop and the driver was Axel. After he made his pit stop I passed in 2nd place with Al Heller closing on me very very fast, so I had to stay on gas as much as in qualification to stay in front of him. At last my gap from Al Heller has been around of 5/10th of a sec WOW !
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EvilClive
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« Reply #11 on: November 12, 2012, 04:28:59 PM +0000 » |
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Just for everyone's info. The stop times are calculated using the best info that I have on lap times. Each race that we do improves the accuracy and last night the race between Sergio's Porsche and Al's Ferrari produced a close finish. Hristo's lap times last night were a huge improvement on the previous best lap I could find for the Mk1 GT40. If we were running this race again using the new data the pitstops would look like this..... Rouen - GT | Single Stop Time | | Double Stop Time | | Post Race Time Penalty | Ford GT40 Mk1 | No Stop | | N/A | | 0 | Porsche 910 | Stop and Go | | N/A | | #VALUE! | Mirage M1 | 18 | | N/A | | 43 | Ford GT40 Mk4 | 26 | | N/A | | 51 | Ford GT40 Mk2B | 43 | | 16 | | 68 | Ferrari 330/P4 | 55 | | 23 | | 80 | Lola T70 Mk3 | 79 | | 35 | | 104 | Chaparral Mk2D | 76 | | 31 | | 101 | Chaparral Mk2F | 86 | | 40 | | 111 |
Hristo did indeed have a big advantage last night because he made no pitstop, any other driver could have done the same and use the Mk1 GT40 to get the same result. Providing of course that you can make the Ford lap at the same speed that Hristo did??? For the system to work, there will always be one car that has No Stop and all the faster cars stops are calculated using this as a base level. In theory...and only in theory... all cars should arrive at the finish line together..........................but we all know that they won't unless everyone drives a flawless race at world record pace.
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« Reply #12 on: November 12, 2012, 04:38:46 PM +0000 » |
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Then a big gold bruiser caught me up and barged me off the track - the bully. And him a Waza Sorry, Paul Ahhh - that's nice... I was more releived that I didn't affect the race leadership tbh. I slightly misjudged your closing speed and although I tried to stay wide off the apex, the gap was closing and I was holding my breath... Not going to bother the mod with that one - that was just racing.
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« Reply #13 on: November 12, 2012, 05:40:54 PM +0000 » |
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Yeah, those more realistic wait times would have helped....
I made 2-3 little mistakes during this race that cost me about 15-20 seconds, so I never had a chance to come near Hristo...
Great fun for the first laps with Al and the last laps with the other Fezza burner Fulvio.
For me the car choice is just a matter of how comfortable I am with a car, would have taken the ChapF but that was unrealistic penalized.
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« Reply #14 on: November 12, 2012, 05:59:49 PM +0000 » |
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I made 2-3 little mistakes during this race that cost me about 15-20 seconds, so I never had a chance to come near Hristo...
I lost about 15 seconds in total from a spin and an off, so we're even.
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