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« on: September 05, 2009, 07:34:43 PM +0100 » |
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UKGPL Season 18 - Inter-League Race - Zandvoort - Race Cancelled and run as Season 19 Warm-up instead This is the rescheduled Inter-League race that was originally planned for Sep 13th (and subsequently Oct 11th). Lets hope this is third time lucky and we get a real race. Our guests are AtlasF1, they scored a comprehensive win over us last time at Monza, dominating the podium, in fact taking the first four places. The race was won by our former membership secretary Paul Skingley and the chap who finished third looks familiar too! Each league is to field nine cars, and there are no chassis handicaps, drivers will be racing to complete the distance and score points for their team. Let's have an extra special UKGPL welcome for AtlasF1. Please be in IGOR UKGPL chatroom by 20:55 UK London time (20:55GMT), (You will need to set up a channel called #ukgpl if you haven't already done so) Chat and Race passwords: see aboveServer TBD (4.UKGPL or 6.UKGPL) IP address TBD Race date = 07-03-2010 Time = 21:00 UK London time (21:00GMT)Track = Zandvoort Variant = 66F1 Damage Model = PRO Qually time = 35 minutes. Race length = 45 laps (complete 41 laps to score points as a finisher) Chassis assignments: (Captain to advise) BT19 - TBD one of the BT11 versions, driver to choose - TBD one BRM, driver to choose between P261 and P83 - TBD Cooper - TBD one Eagle, driver to choose between T1F and T1G - TBD one Ferrari, driver to choose between 246 and 312 - TBD Honda - TBD one Lotus, driver to choose between 43 and either of the 33 versions - TBD McLaren - TBD If you'd like to represent UKGPL in this race please post on the thread and advise what chassis you'd prefer. Driver lists and points scored can be found on the championship standings pagePlease Note: The logistics involved in organizing an Inter League race are more complicated than for a regular league race. Particularly when different time zones are involved. Consequently the details above are liable to change. Please will all drivers check this thread regularly to make sure they don't miss any important updates.
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« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2009, 07:41:46 PM +0100 » |
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As I said in the S18 Interleague thread, for this one, it'd help a lot if people could post their preferred chassis. As this is Zandvoort, it's arguably a tossup between the 2L+ and 3L cars, the 3L waltzes on the straight, and the 2L+ cars make it up in the corners.
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« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2009, 07:58:18 PM +0100 » |
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First dibs on... Why, nothing at all. I don't have a fav so everyone else who comes onboard, make you pick, by all means. I'm happy to drive the leftovers.
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« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2009, 08:31:54 PM +0100 » |
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Uhm, we're running mixed 2l and 3l chassis? I thought this was already discussed thoroughly last season and decided it's hardly reasonable to do it... A recipe for distaster! Anyway, Jethro... since it's your first race as a captain and it's Zandy which I adore, leave my chassis allocation for last, whatever is left vacant I'll take it. If I have to chose between 2L and 3L though, I I'll go with a 3L just to avoid the madness on the fast bits. Mclaren and Lotus 43 (it's a 3L, right?) spring up to mind, but it's not mandatory. Cheers, -=Hristo=-
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« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2009, 09:01:04 PM +0100 » |
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May I politely request the 2 litre Brab BRM for this race, what Hristo does not harrass on the straight I will bother around the rest of the circuit
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« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2009, 09:02:59 PM +0100 » |
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Uhm, we're running mixed 2l and 3l chassis? I thought this was already discussed thoroughly last season and decided it's hardly reasonable to do it... A recipe for distaster! It is an Inter League not a Historic round so the same rules don't apply. I've used the same 66mod options we ran for all the 66mod Inter Leagues we did in Season 17.
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« Reply #6 on: September 05, 2009, 09:18:41 PM +0100 » |
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I'm in for a 66, as usual anything will do
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Cheers Mike
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« Reply #7 on: September 05, 2009, 10:00:38 PM +0100 » |
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I'd quite like to give the Mclaren a go, but if it falls to someone more deserving, i'll be happy with any other 3L car.
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« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2009, 12:07:46 AM +0100 » |
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I think that I could get the L43 to the finish but, obviously, Hristo will get it nearer the sharp end. Failing that I could give the Cooper a go if yer like.
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Hristo Itchov
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« Reply #9 on: September 06, 2009, 12:55:09 AM +0100 » |
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It is an Inter League not a Historic round so the same rules don't apply. I've used the same 66mod options we ran for all the 66mod Inter Leagues we did in Season 17.
I know that, but I'm quote sure we had a discussion concerning the use of mixed 66 fields in Interleague races last season. It's really common sense not to use a mixed field and I'm sure anyone who has experienced the complications of doing so (as much as we've done here in UKGPL) will realize that. On the other hand, it's going to matter a bit less at a track like Zandy.
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« Reply #10 on: September 06, 2009, 01:24:14 AM +0100 » |
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It is an Inter League not a Historic round so the same rules don't apply. I've used the same 66mod options we ran for all the 66mod Inter Leagues we did in Season 17.
I know that, but I'm quote sure we had a discussion concerning the use of mixed 66 fields in Interleague races last season. It's really common sense not to use a mixed field and I'm sure anyone who has experienced the complications of doing so (as much as we've done here in UKGPL) will realize that. On the other hand, it's going to matter a bit less at a track like Zandy. The last race we had against Atlas was in the 66s and we used all the cars (well only a couple of BT11s and a 33 BRM from the 2 Litres) so they will be expecting the same again unless I say something quickly. It is not too late for me to request a 3 Litre only race if that is what the team want but if we go for a similar car allocation at this track as we had for the previous race at Monza, are a couple of BT11s and a 33BRM going to cause chaos? Captain's decision
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« Reply #11 on: September 06, 2009, 08:50:32 AM +0100 » |
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I'll need a smidge more time to think about this. I should have a response tonight.
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« Reply #12 on: September 06, 2009, 11:15:43 AM +0100 » |
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For what its worth.... Last night I jumped on Clive L's server for some 66 fun at Zandy and tried my Brab BRM 2 litre setup against Clive in a Big Lotus and Paul Skingley in a Big Fezza ( what else!!). Clive was having issues with his Lotus and large rear end and quit the race to become spectator and commentator on our duel. We did a 17 lap race where Paul was holding me up by about a second a lap for almost the whole race and only able to hold me off by virtue of his extra grunt down the straight, until 4-5 laps from the end where I eventually harrassed him into an error and slipped through. I was far enough in front by the time we approached Tarzan to know that although he was level, I had the inside line and could outbreak him. Sadly he lost control trying to match my braking and squirmed sideways ( how unusual for Paul lol) and clipped me into the sand dunes. ( he apologised afterwards lol and waited as it was a fun event). I suspect that in a serious race he may not have risked trying to stop the red tank in such a short distance and would have tucked in behind hoping for a mistake from me to allow him through again. If that contact had not happened, I know that I was faster through the rest of the circuit and would have built a lead big enough to protect me from the grunt of the Ferrari next time down the straight and would have been able to pull away after that. I guess what I am saying is that ..at Zandy a 2 litre car can compete with the 3 litre barges, if one is patient ( about 12-13 laps last night) and in my case I was capable of faster lap times when I had a clear track. Paul's sideways style often meant that although he had overcooked a corner and was so far sideways that he was almost stopped, there was no way through and I had to brake to avoid contact, hold position and wait for another opportunity. I take Hristo's point that the difference in handling and outright speed between the two groups makes life "interesting" but I have to admit I thouroughly enjoyed the battle of wits and tactics involved last night.
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« Reply #13 on: September 06, 2009, 11:33:57 AM +0100 » |
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I take Hristo's point that the difference in handling and outright speed between the two groups makes life "interesting" but I have to admit I thouroughly enjoyed the battle of wits and tactics involved last night.
Yes, at a track like Zandy it's not so bad I suppose, though it's impossible to make a pass in a 2L car unless the 3L car ahead makes a mistake. But on tracks like Monza, Reims and the likes, it's awful, I won't forget some of the BREASTS races we had soon after the mod was released. If we could have more than 20 drivers on a server such races could be ran in separate classes for 2L and 3L so you won't have to compete with a much different car. One day, hopefully...
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« Reply #14 on: September 06, 2009, 11:37:25 AM +0100 » |
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Last night I jumped on Clive L's server for some 66 fun at Zandy and tried my Brab BRM 2 litre setup against Clive in a Big Lotus and Paul Skingley in a Big Fezza ( what else!!). Clive was having issues with his Lotus and large rear end and quit the race to become spectator and commentator on our duel. Actually I was also having issues with my wife who insisted that I take hold of a cup of tea and drink it in a hurry as she wanted to set the dishwasher. I was far enough in front by the time we approached Tarzan to know that although he was level, I had the inside line and could outbreak him. Sadly he lost control trying to match my braking and squirmed sideways ( how unusual for Paul lol) and clipped me into the sand dunes. ( he apologised afterwards lol and waited as it was a fun event.
LOL I think you might put that with the rest of your ill gained apologies. I don't think that your driving down the middle of the track gave him much room. But it was impressive how you cleared that fence. I guess what I am saying is that ..at Zandy a 2 litre car can compete with the 3 litre barges, if one is patient ( about 12-13 laps last night) and in my case I was capable of faster lap times when I had a clear track. Paul's sideways style often meant that although he had overcooked a corner and was so far sideways that he was almost stopped, there was no way through and I had to brake to avoid contact, hold position and wait for another opportunity. I take Hristo's point that the difference in handling and outright speed between the two groups makes life "interesting" but I have to admit I thouroughly enjoyed the battle of wits and tactics involved last night.
I'm afraid it’s true. The Hooligans rule Zandvoort. The little BRM might be interesting. Quite a turn of speed in the slipstream.
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