UKGPL Season 44 (Spring 2024) 1955 GP (Works) - Reims - Apr 28

[Hristo Itchov]

I assume you've setup a profile for each of the gpl executables. See here

I tried those settings, but it made no difference unfortunately...

When you run gpl, wich clocks does your CPU run? There are also tools to set the AMD CPU in full clock speed (like the "disable intel speedstep" does)

You must push the NVidia GPU to 3D mode as it will not recognize the gpl.exe as a 3D app! So if you have framedrops you must set higher details not lower

I just tested my old wheelbase with my last W10 pc - even the ATI HD5770 (2010!) will not run in 3D and has to be pushed in CCC, but then runs HD full grid Monza67 at 60fps...

Not sure about that, Axel, but it was never an issue before with the same CPU and my older AMD card, only after I started using this GTX 1060 card since 2 races ago.

How exactly can I push it so it would go into 3D mode when I play GPL? I've tried setting everything to the maximum, but it's of no help.

[Cookie]

The most important for GPL is the high clocked CPU.
For old AMD CPUs I used the Phenom_msr_tweaker or the equivalent for the FX - AMDmsrtweaker
https://phenommsrtweake.sourceforge.net/

A GTX 1060 can do gpl in idle, I still have one as reserve,  now I use a RTX 3060ti...
Phil's settings are perfect.
You must test and control it with the openHardwaremonitor until you have all clocks flat on the top when running gpl

I am now in linux and it is such easy - I set CPU and GPU in performance mode and it just runs... (no OS eating 30% for...)

[Phil Thornton]

I had a 1060 and it was fine until about 4 months ago when I started to have FPS issues. My son recently upgraded his PC so I inherited his 2060. A much better card but my FPS didn't improve.

It looks like Hristo is having similar issues. I agree with Cookie, the 1060 should be more than enough for GPL, so something else is going on IMO.

I've no idea what the issue is. I can't even be sure exactly when it started for me. I can only assume it was after a Windows update.

I did a check with the hardware monitor but I can't remember what it revealed. I'm on holiday ATM so I can't run another check on my PC. In the interim I've resorted to turning down the detail bias until I can figure out a proper solution.

[Hristo Itchov]

OK, so I ran some tests to keep an eye (via openHardwareMonitor) on the CPU clock speed while I'm in GPL, as well as the GPU. CPU is stable at over 3000 Mhz, so that's definitely not the issue. GPU is staying at idle speeds, but Axel is saying that's fine for GPL?

Could it be driver related? I reinstalled the latest drivers 20 minutes ago, but it's not making a difference. Should I try installing (much) older Nvidia drivers?

It really makes zero sense to me, because until 2 races ago I was having no FPS issues whatsoever with my AMD R9 380 card and the GTX is a noticeably more powerful card. Same CPU, no issues with it, no overheating or throttling. Changing the rasterizer settings or Nvidia 3D settings make no difference.

[Phil Thornton]

Could it be driver related? I reinstalled the latest drivers 20 minutes ago, but it's not making a difference. Should I try installing (much) older Nvidia drivers?

I tried that, I rolled the driver back to when the 2060 was released (I had a copy of the driver) but it didn't help.

I assume you are on Windows 10, not Linux?

I suspect it might be down to a windows update in my case. It is as if the nvidia profiler has no effect now.

[Hristo Itchov]

I assume you are on Windows 10, not Linux?

I suspect it might be down to a windows update in my case. It is as if the nvidia profiler has no effect now.

Yes, Windows 10 here. The profiler does affect the game. I tried supersampling AA, image scaling, it does change the way the game looks. Perhaps the "use maximum performance" option isn't working though? I could try overclocking the card via MSI Afterburner by just 100-150 Mhz and see what happens.

[Hristo Itchov]

I tried overclocking the card a bit in MSI Afterburner, but it doesn't seem to make any difference. I ran my heavily modded Skyrim, just to see what it shows in Open Hardware Monitor, and it's working just fine, going to higher clocks and producing good FPS.

I'm really puzzled why it's suddenly problematic in GPL, as it doesn't seem to be the driver or the settings, and there aren't any hardware issues. Oh and btw, this is Dimi's previous card and he's been using it for years in GPL and other sims without issues, until recently when he upgraded.

[Cookie]

No! for the NVidia you should not take the max performance! you use the high quality!

This was in my linux....

[Hristo Itchov]

No! for the NVidia you should not take the max performance! you use the high quality!

This was in my linux....

Which setting do you mean exactly? I meant the power usage setting. It has Optimal Power, Adaptive and Prefer Maximum Performance. In Phil's PDF it's set to the latter. TBH I don't see it making any difference though. I've copied his settings exactly, but the issue remains.

[Cookie]

in the NV profile there is a setting wich can be mistaken, where high Quality must be set to push 3D.

Is it possible that your mobo has a slow pci-e <3 slot or not using 16 lanes this could outbrake the 1060 massively (use GPU-Z to find out )

If there is a big mismatch it really can be better to take the old ATI/AMD GPU

[Hristo Itchov]

in the NV profile there is a setting wich can be mistaken, where high Quality must be set to push 3D.

Is it possible that your mobo has a slow pci-e <3 slot or not using 16 lanes this could outbrake the 1060 massively (use GPU-Z to find out )

If there is a big mismatch it really can be better to take the old ATI/AMD GPU

I don't see any such setting other than for textures, which I already have set at quality instead of performance.

It's a bit of an older motherboard, yes, but the card is running at 2.0 which is more than enough for all other games. There's not much of a performance difference between 2.0 and 3.0, nothing like if it drops to 1.1. It's all working fine though, so it's not that, I already tested it with much heavier games and the FPS is just fine. My previous AMD card was running at 2.0 as well.

It could still be some kind of incompatibility when it comes to rendering in GPL though, I don't know.