UKGPL Season 26 (2014) Friday Trophy - Mexico City - Jun 6

[Ronniepeterson]

So by doing this you can drive on a potentially easier track than the rest of the grid is driving on? If so, some might call that cheating 

[Tom van Ostade]

Well the choice had been left free by the mods so not cheating there, just choose what you like to run. We could have done it like at Kyalami where running with the pit wall in place is required, this time replace 'pit wall' with 'embedded tires', but we didn't. So if you ran with the embedded tire version and thought the rumble strip version provided an advantage, be sure to use it next time. Vice versa, idem ditto .

[maddog]

Not only is our Sim very old, it's also very hard to work on, to change things.  If cars and tracks could be easily modified, there are people who'd prefer to win, than to compete in a friendly fashion.  F1 today is no different, except there's more money involved.

[Ronniepeterson]

Yeah I see what your both saying.

The original GPL was a great game and I think I'm right in saying you have both contributed to the modding, making it even better.

However I do believe that we should all be racing on the same track. Easier said then done when people have different spec machines to run the game, detail level used, add on graphic packages etc.

But I personally don't see what satisfaction anyone would get from altering the track to make life easier for themselves compared to the one everyone else is racing on. Just my opinion; now where is that groove editor and GPLshift download I keep meaning to use

[Cookie]

Phew!

I just made some investigations with the different track versions, just regarding the T1/2 section.
I renamed the files Tommie mentioned before and took a Funliga 69X replay to see what happens there...
Neither tyres nore rumble strips are left!

All drivers touching the T1 right inside white line, where the rumble strips are, had a heavy movement in the suspension, exept a single driver who crossed the T2 line much more without any distortion!




IMO we have to restrict the  use of the track version in a 69X race!

[dave curtis]

eh? rumble strips? I didn't see any rumble strips!   Just some polos as usual; which (as usual) probably best to avoid.  Yeah - that's why I was lapping so slowly


However, without meaning to harp on about it  - I did notice something new during the race.   Rainbow in the sky after the left/right after the hairpin.  Clearly Stormbringer coming.

Cheers,
Dave.

[Robert Fleurke]

Graphics aside, drivers should race at the same physical track IMO.

[Cookie]

Graphics aside, drivers should race at the same physical track IMO.

However I do believe that we should all be racing on the same track.

I agree 100%

As this possibly effects all Mexico races, the race post has to contain a warning text as it is used in the Kyalami races.

"The absence of the T1/2+ tyres will not stop you from joining the race but anybody seen by the moderators miraculously driving through the tyres on the server replay will risk disqualification."

[Cookie]

eh? rumble strips? I didn't see any rumble strips!   Just some polos as usual; which (as usual) probably best to avoid.  Yeah - that's why I was lapping so slowly
...
Cheers,
Dave.

If you use the great Mexico_Multi_Season_Update of 2009, the track will look different in the years 65/66/67/68! and 69.

The biggest change are these historicaly correct 1969 used rumble strips...

PS
This update seems to be installed with the GPL all in one installer.
Now I took the track from my CD and got this:

[BadBlood]

Didn't even realise there WAS an update. I can't keep up... I have a headache now!

[Cookie]

If you have installed GPL with e.g. the gplinstall_beta_1.07 you will have it allready.

It only concerns the 69's as it narrows the track in some key corners!

[maddog]

My race was run on the original Papyrus track, and without any thought for different track versions.  Because I use the 0.97 Installer, it gives me only what I want.  Pribluda and addons can then be installed by choice, which apparently has unexpected advantages.

It would complicate things to specify a specific track addon, when we race.  At kyalami, the rule is to always use the pit wall.  So I'd suggest at Mexico, we always allow the original pre-69.  If not, every driver will need to be visually checked after every race, for compliance.   

[Cookie]

My race was run on the original Papyrus track, and without any thought for different track versions.  Because I use the 0.97 Installer, it gives me only what I want.  Pribluda and addons can then be installed by choice, which apparently has unexpected advantages.

It would complicate things to specify a specific track addon, when we race.  At kyalami, the rule is to always use the pit wall.  So I'd suggest at Mexico, we always allow the original pre-69.  If not, every driver will need to be visually checked after every race, for compliance.   

The actual installer leaves the choice too, but who thinks of this 69' version...

But the knowledge I received in this thread makes it necessary to check every driver as you can remove the tyres! 

You have to use the unmodified track!
The original version of the GPL CD and the complete Mexico_Multi_Season_Update of 2009 are ok.
"The absence of the T1/2+Esses tyres will not stop you from joining the race but anybody seen by the moderators miraculously driving untroubled through these tyres on the server replay will risk disqualification."

[maddog]

I would like an addon, which can remove the 1st car ahead of me.

[maddog]

Incident report published - one guilty driver- 2 corrections needed.  The report says a maddog re-entered the track not in control.  I was in full control.  A change of colour does not have to make a car uncontrollable.  Contact with Dave was made, only because he swerved towards me, to avoid Tommie van O. to his right.

I did not 'wipe out' his car, which he skillfully controlled, to loose only 1 place.  While I decided to turn backwards and stop, as punishment.  

It's clear one Moderator still has some teeth - Grannies everywhere should be jealous.