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November 22, 2011, 10:39:03 PM +0000 - Mexico City (1962-1979) - UKGPL Season 22 (2011-2012) Intermediate (65)
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
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Geoff65
 Clark-Hill Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 1 1:52.825
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1 43:46.298
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23 1:52.994
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Goodyear  
Rainier
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 4 +0.803
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2 +5.929
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23 1:53.439
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Goodyear  
Ronniepeterson
 Clark-Hill Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 2 +0.109
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3 +14.019
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23 1:52.582
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Goodyear  
Ross Neilson
 Clark-Hill Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 5 +0.807
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4 +38.404
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23 1:54.269
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Goodyear  
Cookie
 Antipasti Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 7 +1.169
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5 +55.600
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23 1:53.908
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Goodyear  
bernie
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 8 +1.335
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6 +56.979
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23 1:54.223
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Goodyear  
JonnyO
 Team Coyote
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 3 +0.353
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7 +1:11.374
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23 1:54.681
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Goodyear  
maddog
 Antipasti Racing
BRM P261 (1965) F1 1965 9 +1.336
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8 +1:14.516
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23 1:54.378
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Dunlop  
maestro57
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 10 +1.649
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9 +1:24.378
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23 1:54.565
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Goodyear  
ivandjj
 
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 11 +2.182
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10 +1:54.405
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23 1:54.860
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Goodyear  
francesco
 Antipasti Racing
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 12 +2.725
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11 +1:55.476
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23 1:55.900
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Dunlop  
Billy Nobrakes
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 14 +5.903
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12 +1L
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22 1:57.460
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Goodyear  
s2173
 Team7
BRM P261 (1965) F1 1965 6 +1.138
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13 (+1) +9L
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14 1:54.398
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Dunlop  
karlisss
 
Honda RA272 F1 1965 13 +3.649
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14 +15L
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8 1:57.086
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Goodyear  
vosblod
 Clark-Hill Racing
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 15 +20L
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3 1:59.749
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Dunlop  
maddog
 Antipasti Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 16 DNS ---
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Goodyear  
UKGPL 8
 
Brabham BT7 (Climax) F1 1965 17 ---
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Dunlop  

Moderator's Report

Round 2 and almost a clean race... just one incident on lap one and one report. Keep up the good work at Cerne's and send me into Christmas with a nice Mod holiday...


Server replay time: 0h01m43s

Ivan makes up ground on Karliss as he gets a better exit from one of the innumerable esses but GPL plays one of its wicked tricks and spins the luckless Ivan who is put back on line by the even more luckless Vosblod, who has nowhere to go.

Drivers are reminded that the cars are bigger than they appear as modelled! Always good to give somebody that extra room.


Server replay time: 0h20m48s

Sky is surprised by Cookie's braking earlier than he would have and gives him a hefty whack from behind...

The best fit is this:

The victim was in full control but braked early (not counting lap 1) compared with the average for the division. The shunter had not followed the victim at a safe distance for a lap or two. The shunter was in full control.

Drivers are reminded that they always need to be careful when following somebody closely that they might just find themselves sharing a cockpit... something your mod wishes he had remembered on Lap 1 of the Novices race!

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« on: November 18, 2011, 07:09:42 PM +0000 »

UKGPL Season 22 65 Intermediates Trophy
Race 2 Mexico City

Welcome to the second round of the Intermediates Trophy for Season 22. We move from sunny, twisty Surfers, a track with a really long start/finish straight to a standard Papy track - sunny, twisty Mexico City which has a really long start/finish straight. It does, however, present a different challenge to Surfers and the giant polos are none too sweet.

This race is at the historic 2.747-mile race track "Autódromo Hermanos Rodriguez" in Mexico City, named for the famous racing drivers Ricardo and Pedro Rodríguez. This track first hosted F1 in 1962 when Ricardo was killed in practice for the non-championship event. Despite this inauspicious start the course was a staple of the F1 championship between 1963 and 1970. The 65 is again well suited to this track and should provide some close racing if we can avoid the deadly polos. However, be aware that it could be a little crowded when we get to the esses first time round. There will be crashes and patience is a must. The first lap will be fully moderated within the red zone. The red zone will extend to the end of the esses (turn 13) on the straight before Peralta.

Please check the Season 22 pages for details regarding rules and the Intermediates Trophy pages in particular.

Please see the Intermediates registration thread for an explanation of the chassis allocations shown below:
http://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=10017.0

Please ensure that you take a valid chassis for your group. Cookie and I will be keeping an eye on you!

Group I
Lotus, Ferrari, BRM, Honda, BT11, Cooper, BT7

GROUP 2
BRM, Honda, BT11, Cooper, BT7

GROUP 3
BT11, Cooper, BT7

GROUP 4
Cooper, BT7

GROUP 5
BT7

FULL TIME
DRIVER  
 CHASSIS GROUP  
Cookie
2
Du Fossa
1
Vosblod
1
Geoff 65
3
Maddog
2
JonnyO
2
Francesco
1
Rainier
3
RonniePeterson
3
Karliss
2
S2173
2
Bernie
2
Billy Nobrakes
1
Ross Neilson
3

RESERVE
DRIVER  
 CHASSIS GROUP
Steve Bird
3
ivandjj
2
maestro57
3





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Race date = 22/11/2011
Time = no later then 9:00pm UK Time (30-45 mins practice, race starts at 9:30pm)
Track = mexico
Variant = 65F1
Damage Model = Int
Qualifying time = 30 minutes
Race length = 23 laps
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The Intermediates races are run under Int Long rules and all incidents in the red zone on Lap 1, at least, will be moderated. For this race, the red zone extends to the straight before Peralta.


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« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2011, 04:14:39 PM +0000 »

Beginning to wonder if it was a good idea to sign up for the Inters Shocked Its genuinely to allow room in the Novices rather than having any delusions that I might be competitive. I'm not listed in the race thread but assume I will be Group I - although I will be driving the customary BT11. Seems to be a distinct lack of Gp IV & Gp V drivers.
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« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2011, 05:42:18 PM +0000 »

Sorry Bill. My oversight. Yes, Group I. The lack of Group IV, V will change once races 1-3 are complete and we have a better idea of where people should be. I think Cookie has put you in now, either that or I am editing these pages in my sleep now...
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« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2011, 06:46:14 PM +0000 »

Beginning to wonder if it was a good idea to sign up for the Inters Shocked

Yes it was Billy!
As you have the full car choice it is up to you to  use the benefits of a "better" car.
I do remember the pace you can go in the BT11 Wink
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« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2011, 09:54:44 PM +0000 »

eh...
fighting for last pos.. and end up in BUSH.
who wrote this track with such GLUE BUSH?
no 1st gear or Reverse can help
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« Reply #5 on: November 22, 2011, 11:21:31 PM +0000 »

Replay is available here. Just select the Inters series and analysis is available if you click on the Archive name.

That analysis is available directly from here.

The Replay .rar file is available here.
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« Reply #6 on: November 22, 2011, 11:26:10 PM +0000 »

Thanks Paul Wink
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« Reply #7 on: November 23, 2011, 01:12:29 AM +0000 »

Really needed to win this to have any show in the title, as Cerne's Wood and my laptop, don't get along at all, consequently I'll be forced to miss. Practiced quite a bit for Mexico and simply tweaked my Surfers setup with a set of very useable gear ratios. I had set a 1:52.8 in practice, but that's not always easy to reproduce in a Qualifying environment. Went out for Qually and set a banker lap, then tried to pedal it round as fast as I could make it go. After 4-5 laps, the last one feeling quite good, I pulled over and checked the lap sheets to find I had squeeked another 52 and was about 3/10ths clear of the next competitor, Dave Rainier I think it was at the time. Sat out most of the rest of Qually, until Ronnie bagged a 52 as well then thought I'd best be in the car if he pulled out another and bumped me off the top step. Traffic was a bit thick and found myself unable to advance my time any further. as it turned out, the time ended up good enough for pole    Shocked

Got a good start in the race and headed Ronnie into turn 1, leaving him some room on the inside as he'd indicated his path as we approached. Then set about settling into a groove and pulling out some time on the baying pack. Stretched the lead to 2 seconds then relaxed a bit, to concentrate on hitting the apexes and getting good exits. Ronnie was hard at it and started clawing little packets of time back, so every few laps I found myself having to push for a couple of laps to maintain a gap. Eventually, with a herculean effort, Ronnie caught right up behind me into turn 1. His eyes must have been big as dinner plates, having the opportunity to be this close after 16 grueling laps of effort. Sadly, in his haste to get out of the corner he put the right rear on the grass and spun, to be passed by Dave whom was holding on grimly, but got a new lease on life by picking up second. I was beginning to haul in the tail of the field and pushed to try and catch the car up ahead, to put them between me and Dave. I caught Bill into the hairpin on lap 17 and nearly had a cow when he had a half spin right at the apex, and hadn't left me a lot to aim for. He gathered it up and got clear, then as I rounded him up seeing he'd pulled over to let me by, poor Bill drove into the side of me and spun me off to the inside!! Arrrrgh, twin cows now!! Got going again and made haste to the start/finish line to get my pit signal and find out where Dave was. My hard won 9 second gap had been slashed to 4 seconds. Got my head down again and pushed for a couple of laps to stabilize the gap...then cruised, happily, to the finish. My first 'proper' race win at last. I don't count last seasons last-man-standing GT effort as a win.

Commiserations to teamie Ronnie, for spinning when he really didn't need it....and after driving the wheels off the BT and all. Cars can be very inconsiderate at times. But congratulations as well to Dave and Ronnie for picking up the podium places. Very good to see there were no L1/T1 disasters, and there appeared to be a bit of 'jousting' going on throughout the field to cap off a very good race.    Grin


PS: Forgot to mention the cracking fast lap set by Ronnie during the chase....a very impressive 1:52.582. Great job there mate.
And also big congratulations to Hendy Nichols on his first UKGPL Novice victory, very well done.
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« Reply #8 on: November 23, 2011, 11:23:58 AM +0000 »

Grats to Geoff for his superb win!
Grats to David and Ray who completed the podium!

I hate this Mexico! But I love Cernes Wood!  Grin

My quali was suboptimal and I started from 7th but my start was quite good and made me 5th after T2 Wink
From there to lap 11 T3, I had a great battle with Ross not risking anything, waiting for a mistake...
But Sky had closed up as I had given Ross some space when he went wide in T1.
Braking a little early into T3, I suddenly saw only sky...
Recovering with a little damage on my front suspension I came in between Pete and Bernies battle.
It took some laps til I caught Bernie and we had a fair and respectfull fight for 5th.
Two old men fighting like youngsters what a FUN Grin (I know, Bernie you are about 14 years more experienced Wink )

Satisfied with my result, I can't wait to start at Cernes Wood   
 
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« Reply #9 on: November 23, 2011, 11:40:50 AM +0000 »

I just arrived on the tail of the Bernie's little train when my engine did a fireball. Have already noticed at Surfers that towards end of the race i wasn't reaching next gear when i should have. Well, now i know why. I'm obviously doing something nasty to those little beasts, only need to figure what.

Congrats to Geoff, and it's especially nice to see Bernie score good result right after those depressing Surfers stories.
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« Reply #10 on: November 23, 2011, 12:52:28 PM +0000 »

Grats to Geoff for his superb win!
Grats to David and Ray who completed the podium!

I hate this Mexico! But I love Cernes Wood!  Grin

My quali was suboptimal and I started from 7th but my start was quite good and made me 5th after T2 Wink
From there to lap 11 T3, I had a great battle with Ross not risking anything, waiting for a mistake...
But Sky had closed up as I had given Ross some space when he went wide in T1.
Braking a little early into T3, I suddenly saw only sky...
Recovering with a little damage on my front suspension I came in between Pete and Bernies battle.
It took some laps til I caught Bernie and we had a fair and respectfull fight for 5th.
Two old men fighting like youngsters what a FUN Grin (I know, Bernie you are about 14 years more experienced Wink )

Satisfied with my result, I can't wait to start at Cernes Wood  
  
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« Reply #11 on: November 23, 2011, 02:42:46 PM +0000 »

Congrats Geoff, you certainly deserve that win for the work you have put in. Well done mate
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« Reply #12 on: November 23, 2011, 03:06:03 PM +0000 »

I just arrived on the tail of the Bernie's little train when my engine did a fireball. Have already noticed at Surfers that towards end of the race i wasn't reaching next gear when i should have. Well, now i know why. I'm obviously doing something nasty to those little beasts, only need to figure what.

Congrats to Geoff, and it's especially nice to see Bernie score good result right after those depressing Surfers stories.

Thanks Ivan   Grin  Your top gear seemed a little short to me Ivan, if you jump in my cockpit for a lap or two on the replay...I barely reached redline in a draft....but still could manage 160-161 at turn in for T1. Plus spinning early and getting clunked by Bill, then a bounce off the fence later on wouldn't have helped. All that stuff is cumulative damage, and something must pop in the end. When at or near redline too, you should delay your first downshift, or overspeeding is inevitable. Hope this helps, other than blowing the engine, yours was a good drive.
Ditto Bernie, nice drive there mate.
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« Reply #13 on: November 23, 2011, 05:17:45 PM +0000 »

Interesting comparison of the top 5 qualifiers from each grid. Only 5 odd seconds covering 15 drivers...and with the addition of Novices, not too bad at all.

 1  21 Joe Shaw 65                        Honda    GBR 1m50.530s             17
 2   7 Tristan Bot                           Lotus    FRA 1m50.735s   00.205s   15
 3  11 thebigblue sven                    BrabBT11 BEL 1m51.900s   01.370s   11
 4  12 Mark75 Barresi                      Ferrari  ITA 1m52.084s   01.554s   10
 5  17 Alex Barresi                          Ferrari  ITA 1m52.118s   01.588s   11
 1  14 Geoff Heard65                      BrabBT11 AUS 1m52.825s             12
 2  12 Ronnie Peterson                    BrabBT11 ITA 1m52.934s   00.109s   20
 3  18 J Jonny'O                             BrabBT11 BRA 1m53.178s   00.353s    8
 4   5 Dave Rainier65                       BrabBT11 MON 1m53.628s   00.803s   15
 5  10 Ross Neilson65                       BrabBT11 GBR 1m53.632s   00.807s   18
 1  21 N Hance65                            BrabBT11 GBR 1m53.362s              6
 2  12 HENDY NICHOLS65                  BrabBT11 USA 1m53.685s   00.323s    7
 3  15 Alastair Baldwin65                  BrabBT11 GBR 1m54.280s   00.918s    8
 4   9 rog uk65                               BrabBT11 GBR 1m55.114s   01.752s    8
 5  22 Rob Venn                             Honda    GBR 1m55.920s   02.558s    4
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« Reply #14 on: November 23, 2011, 06:31:54 PM +0000 »

In pre-race practice I realized, I was very fast through the first corner, and that, if the others could somehow be avoided, my race would be good. Cheesy 

A worthwhile start meant I was up to 5th after 2 laps, and just ahead of team mate Cookie.  My driving was inspired, and so my engine expired, heading towards the hairpin on lap 3.  This required a high speed ponder, as to where to stop.  I needed the safest, quickest spot.  After considering the use of Cookie's nose, I picked the outer hairpin, just ahead of him!  It was here, I switched from BRM power, to Grumble power, and recovered to last place!  Grumble!

Having hoped to waft down the main straight, and overpower hapless Brabhamized victims, at it's end, t'was not the case.  Instead, almost the entire remainder was spent, chasing Jonnie'O's tail, and trying not to overrev my grumbling.  He refused to show any sympathy, but continued on with an obstinate 3-5 second gap, to it's end.  This was very inconsiderate!  Undecided

Nice one Geoff!  I believe we have some serious competition ahead of us, and hopefully some more behind as well, to prevent grumble overload.
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