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  • S22Int Monza (GP 1955-71): December 13, 2011
December 13, 2011, 10:36:57 PM +0000 - Monza (GP 1955-71) - UKGPL Season 22 (2011-2012) Intermediate (65)
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 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
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Caracciola
 
Honda RA272 F1 1965 4 +0.364
132.089mph
1 49:30.967
129.900mph
30 1:38.161
131.053mph
Goodyear  
Cookie
 Antipasti Racing
BRM P261 (1965) F1 1965 1 1:37.027
132.585mph
2 +3.751
129.736mph
30 1:37.390
132.091mph
Dunlop  
Rainier
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 10 +1.295
130.838mph
3 +4.519
129.703mph
30 1:37.283
132.236mph
Goodyear  
JonnyO
 Team Coyote
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 7 +0.875
131.400mph
4 +22.199
128.937mph
30 1:38.191
131.013mph
Goodyear  
Ronniepeterson
 Clark-Hill Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 2 +0.197
132.316mph
5 +42.608
128.064mph
30 1:37.967
131.313mph
Goodyear  
bernie
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 5 +0.573
131.806mph
6 (+2) +1:02.656
127.217mph
30 1:38.607
130.460mph
Goodyear  
francesco
 Antipasti Racing
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 8 +1.066
131.144mph
7 (+1) +1:28.159
126.157mph
30 1:39.022
129.914mph
Dunlop  
ivandjj
 
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 11 +2.529
129.217mph
8 +1:28.171
126.156mph
30 1:39.208
129.670mph
Goodyear  
Billy Nobrakes
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 12 +8.016
122.467mph
9 +1L
124.310mph
29 1:38.367
130.779mph
Goodyear  
s2173
 Team7
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 3 +0.234
132.266mph
10 (+5) +9L
118.774mph
21 1:38.084
131.156mph
Disco
Goodyear  
Geoff65
 Clark-Hill Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 6 +0.640
131.716mph
11 +22L
123.949mph
8 1:38.113
131.117mph
Disco
Goodyear  
DuFossa
 Team Coyote
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 9 +1.070
131.139mph
12 +30L
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Disco
Goodyear  
UKGPL 8
 
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 13 13 DNS ---
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Dunlop  

Moderator's Report

Monza is a fast track with lots of racing opportunities and plenty of tow. It requires the drivers to help each other. Largely this was achieved. Couple of sinners though...

Side by side contacts are very common at Monza and drivers are reminded of the preamble to the relevant rules: The limited lateral view in GPL makes incidents of this type very likely. However they can be avoided if drivers are cognizant of the position, or expected position, of other cars. This requires the development of a sixth sense to be sure where all the other cars are, especially on the first lap. [b]However, if in doubt drivers should always leave room.[/b]


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Bernie gets it wide at Curva Grande and is rail riding (tsk tsk!). He is slowed and attempts to free himself by steering right. When the armco gives up he is spat back onto the track into the path of the luckless Du Fossa who has nowhere to go. Du Fossa can continue but soon gives up to build sandcastles at Parabolica. Bernie resets and heads to the pits for a dressing dwn by his crew.

Bernie is experienced enough to know that this was likely to happen and he should have taken more care. Especially on Lap 1

The best fit in the rules is this: "The rejoining driver was NOT in full control but nevertheless attempted to drive straight back onto the racing line without any consideration for other drivers and contact was made."

This would normally attract a two place penalty but since this was not a voluntary rejoin I have mitigated the penalty to one place. Sadly for Bernie Lap 1 takes it back up to two :(


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Sky over rotates the car into Parabolica and makes contact with Ronnies left rear. Ronnie had a slight lead at the point of impact. Sky really should have left more room although he may have been surprised by just how quickly Ronnie closed the gap.

The rules have this: "In a corner, after a legitimate overtaking attempt the cars end up side by side. One driver moves over instead of staying on their own side of the track. Contact is made. Penalty for driver that moves over."

  • s2173 (Skymole 2173 -m65)penalty — Simple Side by Side contact plus one place for red zone — 2 places lost (plus 1 for penalty points)


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Geoff gets a good run on Fran out of Ascari. Fran defends the line but Geoff has overlap. Fran drives into Geoff spinning both cars. A blameless Ivan is caught up in the carnage.

The rules have this: "In a corner, after a legitimate overtaking attempt the cars end up side by side. One driver moves over instead of staying on their own side of the track. Contact is made. Penalty for driver that moves over."


Server replay time: 0h15m59s

Geoff gets a tow from Sky down to Parabolica and passes him on the outside. Sky leaves the braking too late on the tight inside and swerves to the left, taking Geoff out and ending his race.

The best fit in the rules is this: "The victim made no mistakes and was driving their normal line at normal speed. The shunter had lost control on the approach to the braking zone and consequently braked later than intended."

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« Reply #15 on: December 14, 2011, 02:29:38 PM +0000 »

First time I rode another car that Ferrari  Shocked. The 6-speed Honda. After a period of adaptation, good feeling.  Cheesy
During the first lap, two players in front of me crash at the Parabolica, and I come back to Axel. A few kilometers later, I overtake him, then he makes a mistake  Embarrassed. I find myself alone in first position, until the end, while running as savages, Axel & Dave catch me, but too late.  Tongue

Great racer, s'later guys.   Wink

Thanks for organization.
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« Reply #16 on: December 14, 2011, 03:31:21 PM +0000 »

During the first lap, two players in front of me crash at the Parabolica,

That would be us Sky, we ended up comprimising each others race, sorry. While I managed, after a shift-r/stop n go, to finish the race you clearly had further problems, better luck next time. Ditto to Geoff who also had a race to forget. As a consequence we let Max, Axl and Dave off the hook. Only joking well done to the podium trio.
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« Reply #17 on: December 14, 2011, 03:55:22 PM +0000 »

Yeah Max, gratulation!

Getting the pole with a little help of Bernies tow Grin
From the start I could stay in the lead for 3 laps...
But my tow was also good for my followers and Max had set the "riceburners" gears to the little reserve revs for a passing in tow.
I followed him close through Curva Grande and in between the Lesmos I nearly kissed his gearbox, I lifted and got a big kick in mine by Geoff.
Luckily I could move on unharmed, but had lost some places.
Fighting my way back to the podium I could pass JonnyO, but then had a long and exiting fight with David to the finish line.
We celebrated this perfect slipstream games, but it did not help much to catch Max...
After some fighting David understood this and we could close the gap to Max significantly, but too late.

All in all a phantastic race thanks to all participants Wink

 
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« Reply #18 on: December 14, 2011, 07:35:08 PM +0000 »

Yeah Max, gratulation!

Getting the pole with a little help of Bernies tow Grin
From the start I could stay in the lead for 3 laps...
But my tow was also good for my followers and Max had set the "riceburners" gears to the little reserve revs for a passing in tow.
I followed him close through Curva Grande and in between the Lesmos I nearly kissed his gearbox, I lifted and got a big kick in mine by Geoff.
Luckily I could move on unharmed, but had lost some places.
Fighting my way back to the podium I could pass JonnyO, but then had a long and exiting fight with David to the finish line.
We celebrated this perfect slipstream games, but it did not help much to catch Max...
After some fighting David understood this and we could close the gap to Max significantly, but too late.

All in all a phantastic race thanks to all participants Wink

 

Yes, it was a fantastic race with Axel ! I did a surprising best lap  although I was only 10th on the grid ! Thanks to the slipstream and to Axel's BRM.

Axel, you are right, maybe we could join Maxime if we made a constructive race and did not overtake each other several times per lap. I understood that but too late ...
By the way, we are not in the same team and these alliance are strictly forbidden  Cheesy

Congratulations to Maxime : first race in UKGPL 65 mode and first win. !!! 
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« Reply #19 on: February 07, 2012, 11:45:33 AM +0000 »

Moderation published. Sorry it took so long.
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« Reply #20 on: February 07, 2012, 02:09:53 PM +0000 »

Love to know who magnetised the Armco , looks as though I went completely off the rails  Embarrassed
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« Reply #21 on: February 08, 2012, 06:19:58 PM +0000 »

It wasn't great mate  Grin Hope you are ok with my judgement on it.
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« Reply #22 on: February 08, 2012, 09:08:43 PM +0000 »

It wasn't great mate  Grin Hope you are ok with my judgement on it.

Fine with the fine mate , didnt make much difference to the overall results in the end , though it would have been good to do a clean race it hardly ruined my personal championship hopes and soggie botts are on a downer atm But me and Mike will be back  Wink

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