UKGPL Season 22 Fun Race - Montjuich Park - June 3rd

[NickyIckx]

  after short practise I could do 1-37-xx with an Eagle ; so I better stay away from tonights race .
would just been a brakemarker then a driver moving his car 

  woooow these sound of 67 Eagle is breathtaking , real big fun . endless power , even in 5th gear I could hot spin the rear tyres

[EvilClive]

I had 30mins free time allocated by the boss so I thought I would do a few laps around this new track before tonight's race.  Hmmm, so what is a good lap time?? I know, I will look at the GPLRank fastest lap times database for 67 F1 cars  around Montjuich ....simples   


1:22!!!!!!!!!! and the Honda is faster than the Lotus?!!   you cannot be serious!!!

There's something fishy about that chap's WR times Clive... the 2nd best/nearest times are 8-10 seconds slower for every chassis. So I imagine a piffling 1:30 would be perfectly acceptable

!:30??!!!  that is still in fantasy land for me at the moment. Nicky's time of 1:37 sounds more realistic!! lol

[robert john]

As far as Urban's times, those have to be 69 Mod times that somehow found their way into the 67 slots. He is blindingly fast I can attest. I've been lapped by him enough to know, though that's not saying much now that I think about it.    

I tried a few laps and my best so far was a 1:36.xx in the Brabham. Most laps ended in tears before long. The Ferrari felt more skittish and the Honda felt like a huge sedan on bald tires.  I was going to give this race a go but I'm paranoid about my car control. 67's around Montjuic are a beast!

You may not be as far off as you think Nicky    

Peace

RJ

[BadBlood]

My local lap record is 1:23 which is an AI time but I am only twenty seconds off that now...

[dave curtis]

Apparently I have the track & not that I remember ever being there,  managed to (presumably bounce) round just under 1:43. 

As a result,  I'll turn up to bolster the numbers as it's a fun/test run.  Hopefully I'll make it to at least lap3 before the field rushes up from behind...

Cheers,
Dave. 

[Al Heller]

Got pole in the Coop
Too much wheelspin off the start dropped me to 3rd
Got rearended at T1

Apologies to all those that got blocked behind my sideways car - I wasn't sure whether to stay still or move as we all seemed to be squashed together like sardines.
After the T1 incident my race rhythm was rather shot. Still, was quite enjoying racing in midfield but then I managed to clout Ronnie - very sorry Ronnie - hope you were able to continue. Spun out shortly after & lost a wheel & decided it wasn't my night. 

[BadBlood]

It wasn't

[Ronniepeterson]

Start was interesting, just managed to avoid a stationary Tim even though the flag dropped several days ago! Some might disagree but I really like the challenge of this track. No problems Al with the contact, an occupational hazard at a track like this. Opted out with around seven laps to go with a blown engine. Great track and no problems with connection, fps, etc. Hope we use it.

[Ross Neilson]

A big thanks to everyone for taking part this evening to give the track a good test run. Initial feedback after the race was positive but please post here if you had any problems such as loss of fps or disco.

Results were as follows.

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Track: Montjuic             Sun Jun 03 22:40:38 2012

PRACTICE TIMES

Pos No Driver                           Team     Nat      Time      Diff Laps
 1  16 Al Heller67                      Cooper   GBR 1m35.038s             26
 2   7 Sam Blood                        Eagle    GBR 1m35.128s   00.090s    7
 3  14 65 evilclive                     Honda    GBR 1m35.218s   00.180s   21
 4  15 Tim Muttram                      Eagle    GBR 1m35.906s   00.868s   11
 5  13 robert john                      Brabham  USA 1m35.927s   00.889s   15
 6  18 Ronnie Peterson                  BRM      ITA 1m36.924s   01.886s   19
 7  11 Bernie Darwin                    Brabham  GBR 1m36.992s   01.954s   19
 8  19 Fabio Locarno                    Ferrari  ITA 1m37.149s   02.111s   19
 9   9 Skymole 2173                     Cooper   USA 1m37.778s   02.740s   14
10  20 Ross Neilson                     Ferrari  GBR 1m37.936s   02.898s   14
11  17 John Roberts                     Brabham  GBR 1m38.116s   03.078s   11
12   6 Billy Nobrakes67                 Brabham  GBR 1m38.226s   03.188s   11
13   8 Martin Hunt                      Lotus    USA 1m38.376s   03.338s    9
14   3 Marco Casadei                    Lotus    ITA 1m40.470s   05.432s    5
15  12 Marco Casadei                    Ferrari  ITA 1m42.317s   07.279s    5
16  10 J. JonnyO                        Cooper   BRA 1m43.097s   08.059s    5
17   5 Dave Curtis                      Eagle    GBR 1m43.972s   08.934s    5
18   4 2 UKGPL_T7                       Ferrari  ITA   No time   No time    0

All times are official
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Track: Montjuic             Sun Jun 03 22:40:38 2012

RACE RESULTS (After 34 laps)

Pos No Driver                          Team     Nat Laps   Race Time       Diff    Problem
 1   7 Sam Blood                       Eagle    GBR   34  54m33.445s            
 2  15 Tim Muttram                     Eagle    GBR   34  54m39.460s    06.015s 
 3  13 robert john                     Brabham  USA   34  54m56.945s    23.500s 
 4  14 65 evilclive                    Honda    GBR   34  55m12.798s    39.353s 
 5   8 Martin Hunt                     Lotus    USA   34  55m38.291s  1m04.846s 
 6  17 John Roberts                    Brabham  GBR   34  56m01.120s  1m27.675s 
 7  11 Bernie Darwin                   Brabham  GBR   33  55m00.491s   1 lap(s) 
 8   6 Billy Nobrakes67                Brabham  GBR   32  54m35.135s   2 lap(s) 
 9   5 Dave Curtis                     Eagle    GBR   32  55m59.269s   2 lap(s) 
10  20 Ross Neilson                    Ferrari  GBR   32  56m11.520s   2 lap(s) 
11  18 Ronnie Peterson                 BRM      ITA   26  43m38.272s   8 lap(s) 
12   9 Skymole 2173                    Cooper   USA   13  22m47.949s  21 lap(s) 
13  10 J. JonnyO                       Cooper   BRA    6  11m07.139s  28 lap(s) 
14  16 Al Heller67                     Cooper   GBR    5   9m05.744s  29 lap(s) 
15  19 Fabio Locarno                   Ferrari  ITA    4   7m09.190s  30 lap(s) 
16   3 Marco Casadei                   Lotus    ITA    3   5m30.156s  31 lap(s) 
17  12 Marco Casadei                   Ferrari  ITA    0 DidNotStart  34 lap(s) 
18   4 2 UKGPL_T7                      Ferrari  ITA    0 DidNotStart  34 lap(s) 


Race results are unofficial
(Replay might have been saved before end of race)

RACE FASTEST LAPS

Pos Driver                                 Time Lap
 1  Tim Muttram                       1m33.593s  32
 2  Sam Blood                         1m34.135s  33
 3  robert john                       1m35.035s  31
 4  65 evilclive                      1m35.124s  13
 5  Martin Hunt                       1m35.226s  33
 6  John Roberts                      1m36.228s  28
 7  Bernie Darwin                     1m36.823s  22
 8  Ronnie Peterson                   1m36.937s  26
 9  Ross Neilson                      1m37.416s  17
10  Al Heller67                       1m37.966s   2
11  Billy Nobrakes67                  1m38.527s  31
12  Marco Casadei                     1m39.081s   2
13  Skymole 2173                      1m39.268s  11
14  Fabio Locarno                     1m39.970s   4
15  Dave Curtis                       1m40.279s  27
16  J. JonnyO                         1m43.041s   4
17  2 UKGPL_T7                          No time
18  Marco Casadei                       No time


LEADERS

Driver                           Laps
65 evilclive                     1-4
Sam Blood                        5-7
65 evilclive                     8-14
Sam Blood                        15-34

Number of lead changes: 3
Number of leaders: 2


LAPS LED

Driver                           Laps led
Sam Blood                        23
65 evilclive                     11


HIGHEST CLIMBER

Driver                           Start Finish  Change
Martin Hunt                         13      5       8  
Dave Curtis                         17      9       8  
John Roberts                        11      6       5  
Billy Nobrakes67                    12      8       4  
J. JonnyO                           16     13       3  
Tim Muttram                          4      2       2  
robert john                          5      3       2  
Sam Blood                            2      1       1  
2 UKGPL_T7                          18     18       0  
Ross Neilson                        10     10       0  
Bernie Darwin                        7      7       0  
65 evilclive                         3      4      -1  
Marco Casadei                       15     17      -2  
Marco Casadei                       14     16      -2  
Skymole 2173                         9     12      -3  
Ronnie Peterson                      6     11      -5  
Fabio Locarno                        8     15      -7  
Al Heller67                          1     14     -13  


ON TRACK LAPS

Driver                           Laps/Total    Percent
John Roberts                        (34/34)     100.00
Sam Blood                           (34/34)     100.00
Martin Hunt                         (34/34)     100.00
65 evilclive                        (33/34)      97.06
Tim Muttram                         (33/34)      97.06
robert john                         (33/34)      97.06
Bernie Darwin                       (33/33)     100.00
Billy Nobrakes67                    (31/32)      96.88
Ross Neilson                        (31/32)      96.88
Dave Curtis                         (30/32)      93.75
Ronnie Peterson                     (25/26)      96.15
Skymole 2173                        (12/13)      92.31
J. JonnyO                             (5/6)      83.33
Al Heller67                           (5/5)     100.00
Marco Casadei                         (3/3)     100.00
Fabio Locarno                         (3/4)      75.00


RACE LAPTIME CONSISTENCY
(first lap excluded)

Driver                    Avg Deviation  Std Deviation  Avg Laptime   Laps
robert john                       1.147          2.092    1m36.593s     34
Sam Blood                         1.202          1.870    1m36.060s     34
65 evilclive                      1.239          1.836    1m37.273s     34
Martin Hunt                       1.299          1.736    1m37.738s     34
Marco Casadei                     1.410          1.410    1m40.491s      3
John Roberts                      1.600          2.311    1m38.438s     34
Tim Muttram                       1.826          3.071    1m35.946s     34
Billy Nobrakes67                  1.854          2.952    1m41.443s     32
Ronnie Peterson                   2.086          3.034    1m40.060s     26
Bernie Darwin                     2.345          2.937    1m39.773s     33
Dave Curtis                       2.417          2.892    1m43.878s     32
J. JonnyO                         3.197          4.039    1m45.761s      6
Skymole 2173                      3.694          4.607    1m42.562s     13
Al Heller67                       6.359          7.420    1m43.712s      5
Ross Neilson                      7.108          9.350    1m44.969s     32
Fabio Locarno                     7.655          8.163    1m46.738s      4


All times are unofficial
(Replay might have been saved before end of race)

Generated with GPL Replay Analyser

[FullMetalGasket]

REALLY enjoyed that 

Didn't manage to get any practice in prior to joining the lobby so was very happy with 4th on the grid - not so happy that missed the flag while adjusting my wonky chair  Sorry to Ronnie and anyone else who got affected 

From there on it was a challenge to adjust to some last minute setup changes while trying to make up lost ground, this eventually resulted in my rear ending Bernie on one of the hairpins early in the lap - sorry Bernie although I don't think it affected you much based on how far up the road you were when I eventually caught back up 

After sucessfully passing Bernie I settled in and managed to start eating away at the leaders while occaisionally entering the first hairpin backwards when carrying too much speed over the brow...
Eventually Clive helped me past by parking in some armco putting me upto 3rd, Robert J then lost it and performed a lovelly piruoette into the first hairpin (8 out of 10, entry could have been smoother ) handing me second so I could concentrate on pulling in Sam who was some 16 seconds ahead acording to my pitboard. I didn't have quite enough speed to catch him by the end though so had to settle for mearly being able to see him as we finished.
Had there been just 1 or 2 laps more it could have got interesting though 

Well done to everyone who made it, connection was rock solild here, very little warp considering the type of circuit too 

[dave curtis]

Lummy, the trip from the back was not really filled with as much fun as I was expecting!

The entire drive seemed laggy somehow;  even when running at 35-36 FPS. It seemed much lower.   Did notice it was about 30FPS a couple of times round that 1st right-hander with the handy layby/run off/parking area.   Maybe I have the hi-res version installed or something;  but normally do not have any issues at all with lag.

The pile-up after the start just had cars warping in/out;  in that log-jam,  was edging forward into clear spaces & bam! - cars appearing in there already.

There was defo something wrong with my tyres.  I reckon they were half-filled with butter,  with the rest smeared on the outside!  There again, with a random setup selected - maybe it was sand from the Zandy dunes...


Still, not all bad - at least I out-qualified the UKGPL server...   Got a PB during the 'race'  so not all bad there either.   Kinda enjoyable once I had an idea which way the next way the next corner was likely to go.

ok, maybe not the most community-aware way to run a personal test session;  but I clearly need all the time here as I can get.

Plenty of opportunities to practice being lapped - I think there was an improvement there at least.


Cheers for the run.  To the guys which this applies to - enjoy the rest of the long weekend!


Dave.

[s2173]

I dont see whats the fuss all about... the track isnt particulary great looking or fun to drive, more like below average...  Clermont, st. Jovite or Pau are both more challenging and more beautiful...and they work right for a change... Installed the light version and tried turning off every tickbox in gpl, but still had 22 fps at places (and it felt like 15). So I guess the reason is not the textures, but some objects placed on wrong places or something... even on monaco rocks i get minimum 30fps, and it feels driveable unlike montjuic... Driving on it is frankly a torture, no matter what car or mod... And about racing...well, that t1 pileup says all about it imo - we were stuck for about half a minute...

[robert john]

Grats Sam and Tim

I am the responsible party for the 1st lap disaster.       Braking and entering the hairpin I felt under control and thought I was leaving plenty of room.  I thought wrong.  As I turned in it was almost as if the Cooper backed up into me but that was just a visual trick on the eyes.  

Terribly sorry Al.  I pride myself on not biffing folks up the backside so this is hard for me to swallow.  Not the way I wanted to be introduced to the UKGPL.  

Frame rate wasn't that good but driveable. On a couple of occasions dropped extremely low for a second or two.  

Peace

RJ

[bernie]

really enjoyed the race , the connection was good and fr was a solid 36 even after the start when all cars were bunched ( though I didnt pay much attention to the fr after that for some reason    )

enjoyed some close racing along the way to being lapped , the usual problem being a new track was finding the braking distances and best line through the many bends ( are there any straights here ) its the sort of track that lets you grow in confidence then bites you back for trying to be too smug

Got to say that I loved it for another reason as I was there in person to see the last F1 race to be held at Mont Juich track after the safety brigade decided it was to dangerous for the modern breed of racers .   great shame because spectator wise the close up sight of grand prix cars was fantastic  

Quite a relief to find the track wasn't the disco fest that some had predicted  

looking forward to racing here again , I think this track was built for for the 65's or F2 mod  

[Al Heller]

Grats Sam and Tim

I am the responsible party for the 1st lap disaster.       Braking and entering the hairpin I felt under control and thought I was leaving plenty of room.  I thought wrong.  As I turned in it was almost as if the Cooper backed up into me but that was just a visual trick on the eyes.  

Terribly sorry Al.  I pride myself on not biffing folks up the backside so this is hard for me to swallow.  Not the way I wanted to be introduced to the UKGPL.  

Frame rate wasn't that good but driveable. On a couple of occasions dropped extremely low for a second or two.  

Peace

RJ

No problems Robert - Clive & Sam had both run pretty deep into T1 & looked like they might touch, so I was pulling up a little sharply in order to try & take the inside line. It was only the lightest of touches from your car but of course GPL's collision rendering did the rest... Anyway I can hardly start pontificating as I managed to plough into the back of Ronnie later on Still, I guess it's better that all this happens in the fun races.