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July 20, 2012, 09:37:57 PM +0100 - Porto - UKGPL Season 23 (2012) Formula 2 Trophy
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Hristo Itchov
 HikiWazaRacing
Brabham BT23 GPL F2 1 2:14.684
123.361mph
1 38:39.116
121.792mph
17 2:13.953
124.034mph
Goodyear  
Al Heller
 Clark-Hill Racing
Matra MS7 GPL F2 4 +4.282
119.560mph
2 +1:29.042
117.289mph
17 2:20.477
118.274mph
Dunlop  
EvilClive
 HikiWazaRacing
Cooper T84 GPL F2 6 +5.018
118.930mph
3 +1:55.571
116.011mph
17 2:18.321
120.117mph
Dunlop  
NickyIckx
 Antipasti Racing
Matra MS7 GPL F2 8 +6.026
118.078mph
4 +1:57.264
115.930mph
17 2:21.077
117.771mph
Dunlop  
robert john
 
Lola T100 (BMW) GPL F2 11 +11.065
113.996mph
5 +2:04.780
115.574mph
17 2:19.687
118.943mph
Dunlop  
G Jonsson
 Black Night Racing
Matra MS7 GPL F2 3 +3.778
119.995mph
6 (+2) +2:28.658
114.456mph
17 2:18.576
119.896mph
Dunlop  
s2173
 Team7
Lola T100 (FVA) GPL F2 10 +7.908
116.519mph
7 +1L
112.797mph
16 2:21.090
117.760mph
Firestone  
MagicArsouille
 
Matra MS7 GPL F2 2 +2.001
121.555mph
8 +4L
118.093mph
13 2:16.844
121.414mph
Disco
Dunlop  
Clutch4
 Mountside Racing
Ferrari 166 GPL F2 9 +7.472
116.877mph
9 +8L
108.498mph
9 2:22.327
116.736mph
Disco
Firestone  
Cookie
 Antipasti Racing
Protos 16 (FVA) GPL F2 7 +5.552
118.477mph
10 +11L
113.476mph
6 2:21.235
117.639mph
Disco
Firestone  
natan5
 NVRacing
McLaren M4A GPL F2 5 +4.418
119.443mph
11 +17L
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Disco
Goodyear  
2 UKGPL_T7
 
McLaren M4A GPL F2 12 12 DNS ---
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Goodyear  

Moderator's Report

F2s? Haybales? Clean Red Zone?

I don't think so...


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Into T1 Goran has an inside line. Natan is ahead & to the right, as he turns in there is a collision. Goran had overlaps & keep tight to the inside. Both drivers seem unsighted.

Unlucky for Natan.


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After T1 Cookie runs into the barriers. He waits to check the track is clear before reversing. Natan emerges from behind the opposite hay bales on the left after his tangle with Goran & is taken out by Cookie.

We have had a similar issue before & called a R/I where the recovering driver has done his best to rejoin from an unsighted position. Cookie could however have used the F10 view which would have helped here.

Double bad luck for Natan


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Goran cuts back in far too early after overtaking Sky.

The incident reports were funny though.

GJ: I went out to pass Sky and took a "look right" button peek only the wheel also followed to the right and there was Sky, totally my fault.
Sky: Worst overtake I have ever seen... and he should know ;)

SimRacing.org.uk Lap Records
Grand Prix Legends
GPL F2
2:14.684
123.361mph
Hristo Itchov
Qualifying
Brabham BT23July 20, 2012, 09:37:57 PM +0100
S23F2
Grand Prix Legends
GPL F2
2:13.953
124.034mph
Hristo Itchov
Race
Brabham BT23July 20, 2012, 09:37:57 PM +0100
S23F2
July 20, 2012, 09:38:31 PM +0100 - Porto - UKGPL Season 23 (2012) Formula 2 Trophy
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Phil Thornton
 Antipasti Racing
Matra MS7 GPL F2 1 2:20.595
118.191mph
1 40:41.529
115.703mph
17 2:19.790
118.872mph
Dunlop  
roguk
 Clark-Hill Racing
Cooper T84 GPL F2 7 +4.576
114.466mph
2 +52.103
113.285mph
17 2:23.329
115.937mph
Dunlop  
Rainier
 Black Night Racing
Ferrari 166 GPL F2 2 +1.957
116.569mph
3 +1:03.477
112.771mph
17 2:22.054
116.978mph
Firestone  
JonnyO
 Team Coyote
Lola T100 (BMW) GPL F2 3 +2.895
115.807mph
4 +1:22.851
111.905mph
17 2:20.416
118.342mph
Dunlop  
Johnny.P
 
Lola T100 (BMW) GPL F2 6 +4.154
114.800mph
5 +1:33.276
111.445mph
17 2:20.492
118.278mph
Dunlop  
bernie
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Matra MS7 GPL F2 4 +3.587
115.251mph
6 +1:47.215
110.835mph
17 2:22.854
116.322mph
Dunlop  
francesco
 Antipasti Racing
Lola T100 (BMW) GPL F2 8 +6.612
112.883mph
7 +2:21.679
109.357mph
17 2:25.961
113.846mph
Dunlop  
dave curtis
 Black Night Racing
Lola T100 (FVA) GPL F2 5 +3.759
115.114mph
8 (+1) +1L
107.495mph
16 2:23.360
115.912mph
Firestone  
BadBlood
 HikiWazaRacing
McLaren M4A GPL F2 9 +13.104
108.115mph
9 +9L
101.147mph
8 2:32.624
108.876mph
Disco
Goodyear  
UKGPL 3
 
Lola T100 (FVA) GPL F2 10 10 DNS ---
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Firestone  

Moderator's Report

Clean Red Zone? OOOOHHH! So nearly!


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Dave is caught out by Rainier braking early who had, in turn been caught out by Phil braking earlier than is the norm.

This is, however, Lap 1, Red Zone and drivers MUST be cautious. Cold tyres, full fuel load, late braking... not a good combo.

JohnnyO is an innocent victim.

Rainier asked for no penalty and there is no malicious intent but Dave is culpable here. Minimum I can give is a warning and a place for Red Zone.


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Jonny O slaloms through the hay bales to pass a recovering Badblood but there is a warp collision sending Jonny into the wall. Jonny resets in a part of the course which is on the approach to, or is arguably part of the pit lane but doesn't take a SnG.

Jonny may have been thinking that as a no-fault accident he was entitled to a 'free' SnG. There is now no such thing. Drivers are reminded that after a Reset (Shift-R) you MUST take a Stop n Go.

Technically this is a DQ but that would be a bit drastic.

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« on: July 14, 2012, 12:01:17 AM +0100 »

THIS POST IS FOR THE LIGHT & HEAVY RACES

On to Round 3 of the Formula 2 European Tour takes us south to a Portuguese street circuit. The Portuguese Grand Prix was a motorsports event held for several years, mostly in the 1950s and then in the 1980s and 90s. It was a Formula One race between 1958 and 1960 and between 1984 and 1996.
The first event was held on the Boavista street course in Porto on 17 June 1951 as a sports car race. The Grand Prix was moved to Monsanto Park, Lisbon, in 1954 as a one-off. The first Formula One race was held in 14 August 1958 in Boavista, won by Stirling Moss in a Vanwall.

After two rounds with free choice of chassis, handicapping now applies to the top three drivers in each Division.
LIGHTS Mark Barresi – Ferrari or Brabham BT14. Evil Clive & Alex Barresi -  Ferrari, Brabham BT14 or Cooper.
HEAVY Rainier – Ferrari or Brabham BT14. Billy & Rog UK -  Ferrari, Brabham BT14 or Cooper.

The series will be run on two separate grids; The Lights (on T7) & the Heavys (on UKGPL 3). Please ensure you join the correct race. The Driver list is shown below & the Championship Table can be found here F2 European Tour

Unlimited resets are allowed but every Shift R must be followed by a Stop & Go in the pit lane. If you Reset on the last lap a 30 second time penalty will be awarded.
Incidents should be reported in the usual way.

In line with other divisions the races will be subject to full moderation  in the red zone which will be to the exit of the corner entering Avendia de Antunes Guimareras. The Moderator may chose to investigate any other incident, in addition to reported incidents & red zone incidents.

Please note that for Season 23 UKGPL has introduced a system of penalties within each series  for drivers accumulating yellow cards – see here
Penalty Points. Drivers incurring these penalties will receive a PM advising when a penalty has been applied & what race it should served.

LIGHT  HEAVY
Al Hellar  Badblood
Alex Barresi  Bernie
Cookie  Billy  
Evil Clive  Dave Curtis
Fulvio  Francesco
Goran  Geoff
John Roberts  Giovanni
Mark Barresi  Il Lupo
Nicky Ickx  Jonny O
Ron C  Phil Thornton
Robert John  Rainier
Magic Arisoulle  Jonny
Clutch  xxxxx
Blito  The Mayor
Hristo  Paul Bird
Arf Arf  Rog UK
Natan  Derek Flint
Skymole  Miniblood / the Mayor


Race List = IGOR
Server = UKGPL3 & T7
IP address = TBA
Race date = Friday 20-07-2012
Time = 21:00 UK time (21:00 GMT)
Track = Porto
Race length = 17 Laps
Variant = 1967 Formula 2
Damage Model = Intermediate
Qualifying time = max. 30 minutes
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« Reply #1 on: July 19, 2012, 10:49:36 PM +0100 »

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After two rounds with free choice of chassis, handicapping now applies to the top three drivers in each Division.
LIGHTS Mark Barresi – Ferrari or Brabham BT14. Evil Clive & Mark Alex Barresi -  Ferrari, Brabham BT14 or Cooper.

Just a little correction Wink
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« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2012, 12:07:53 AM +0100 »

Thanks Cookie.

Apologies I won't be able to make this one. Hopefully there will be a few fun race to get me through the summer break. With no football I will seriously be in danger of having to talk to the wife!
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« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2012, 11:32:00 AM +0100 »

For some reason Porto58 runs only on OpenGl_V2 on T7 server so I've set to 16 laps Long race and is listening on Igor on Console session.
Ciao
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« Reply #4 on: July 20, 2012, 02:15:59 PM +0100 »

Thanks Fulvio.
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« Reply #5 on: July 20, 2012, 10:04:49 PM +0100 »

Like Porto and usually go Ok here.

Very poor from me and also had my first lap 1 incident in a long time involving another car. Apologies to evil for the touch at the end of the straight. Looked like i was coming in fast but it was under control via my normal braking spot, but i accept it was my fault. Apologies.

Went to pieces after that. Can do lap after lap here normally, but 3 resets later, time to pull into the pits and call it a day.

Not too hot on my F2 knowledge in that, is the Ferrari supposed to be one of the slower cars? (my poor driving excluded).
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« Reply #6 on: July 20, 2012, 10:23:00 PM +0100 »

3 stops sorted my race for me- the hay bales on the first turn grabbed me several times and I only really found my rhythm with about 5 laps to go. Well done to those on the podium.
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« Reply #7 on: July 20, 2012, 10:29:26 PM +0100 »

Like Porto and usually go Ok here.

Very poor from me and also had my first lap 1 incident in a long time involving another car. Apologies to evil for the touch at the end of the straight. Looked like i was coming in fast but it was under control via my normal braking spot, but i accept it was my fault. Apologies.

Went to pieces after that. Can do lap after lap here normally, but 3 resets later, time to pull into the pits and call it a day.

Not too hot on my F2 knowledge in that, is the Ferrari supposed to be one of the slower cars? (my poor driving excluded).

No apology necessary mate. I should have seen you coming and left more room Undecided I was being ultra cautious on lap 1 because there are usually a few cars exchanging paint samples at that corner  Wink

I was way off the pace of the fast boys here by about 3 secs a lap so getting onto the podium was a real bonus. Even that was courtesy of Nicky throwing his car into the bales at the final turn and allowing me to sneak through.
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« Reply #8 on: July 20, 2012, 10:41:20 PM +0100 »

Horrible. Nuff said. Shouldn't have had beer - at least I managed the imports ok Wink

Results in, and replays etc. up in the usual place.
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« Reply #9 on: July 20, 2012, 11:02:22 PM +0100 »

Difficult track and difficult race.

I was 2nd on the grid, and quickly had a rear end shunt by Dave Curtis on the 1st lap, I was surprised by  Phil T 's early braking but Dave C was too close on the 1st lap where evrybody must be very cautious.
Then my Dino was very slow until I have a new accident when Penning lost the control at the end of the 4th lap. so I had to make a Stop'n'go.
I did all what I can to reduce the gap with RogUK and was close to succeed but each time I made an error.
With all these problems, I can be satisfy of my final 3rd !

I should stay 1st at the championship unless penalty by the moderation, so next race again with the Dino in Montjuich in September   !   
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« Reply #10 on: July 20, 2012, 11:07:35 PM +0100 »

Wasn't expecting much in the way of results here going on practise performance , so was completely taken by surprise with my start which got me into the lead going into T1 , didnt last long as i did my usual trick of sticking it in the straw bales  starting lap 4 , had to s/r and the resulting s&g dropped me further down the order , then prib started telling fibs saying that Dave R was just up the road so I pushed hard to try tp close the gap , but by this stage in the race my talent was beging to run out , resulting in furthe crashes , spins and general imitation of a combined harvester which at least kept the crowds amused .

Grats to Phil and the pods ,   looking forward to Montjuich for some costa del fun  Grin
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« Reply #11 on: July 20, 2012, 11:30:00 PM +0100 »

.......... I was surprised by  Phil T 's early braking ........
Sorry David, I was just trying to be careful on lap 1.  The tyres were cold and I was on the unfamiliar inside line (I wasn't sure it was safe to move onto the racing line) so I had to be a bit conservative.  I'd outbraked myself several times in qually.

Grats on retaining the championship lead, this is shaping up to be a competitive championship.

I'd had a quick look at GPL rank before the race to see what a fast lap was.  The WR times were in the 1:21 area so I was very pleased with my fastest lap in the 1:19s.  That was until I looked at the lights times.  To be 8 seconds under the old WR time is unbelievable LOL.  Grats H, you've lost none of your speed during your sabbatical Smiley
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« Reply #12 on: July 21, 2012, 12:12:01 AM +0100 »

I'd had a quick look at GPL rank before the race to see what a fast lap was.  The WR times were in the 1:21 area so I was very pleased with my fastest lap in the 1:19s.  That was until I looked at the lights times.  To be 8 seconds under the old WR time is unbelievable LOL.  Grats H, you've lost none of your speed during your sabbatical Smiley

Thanks, but those were with slipstream. Normally I was into 15-16.
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« Reply #13 on: July 21, 2012, 09:01:46 AM +0100 »

My apologies rainier for causing you a stop & go.
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« Reply #14 on: July 21, 2012, 11:48:17 AM +0100 »

Bad, bad, bad. My car was either very slow, or with very bad setup... tho it looked alright. I could have maybe done 2.19 with slipstream, but no one gave me any. I even couldnt pass Goran, had good run at the long straight, went to the left... and car just stayed alongside. In result I missed the braking point, wondering wtf is wrong with the engine, and went into haybales... these cars are damn tanks, luckily. Goran was even worse than that tho, at the lap before... he had good run on me on the same straight... and went to the left... and alongside... and right again...into me. Who can mess the simplest pass possible, I don't know, but I guess fast drivers drive just as bad as the slow ones, just faster. I'm looking around at the divs I'm in... i have no chance to get a win or podium in any of the incoming races. Well, maybe next year... If I get to -60 rank till then... and im still alive...and stuff...
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