UKGPL Season 23 (2012) Privateers Trophy (67) - Dijon-Prenois - Nov 4

[maddog]

I remember reading that Arnoux was running out of fuel, or it would've been a Turbo twosome, that day.  Hence the enhanced wheel banging.  Same thing happens to me with the teapot - at race end I sometimes find myself one teapot short!

[Cookie]

Had a little screen freeze on the grid, got it back, but had a bad flickering tray bar...

So I left after first mistake.

[BadBlood]

Quite good fun but got really motion sick - had to give up before I threw up...

[blito]

I had never driven Dijon before and only downloaded the circuit half an hour before the server opened for business. I chose the Honda RA300 and slapped on the setup I had used at Kyalami some time previously and was instantly comfortable although running on race fuel in qually meant I was destined to start from the back row. I managed my usual lightning fast start and turned 18th on the grid into 13th into T1 but half way round the lap I was confronted by an almost stationary ferrari and ran into the back of it, causing me to loose more postitions. I recovered OK and set off in pursuit of the guys in front only to find once again the guys in front trying to stop in the middle of the track! More collisions! Eventually things settled down and I made places through others misfortunes and settled into a rythm, cruising to what looked like being 7th place. My tyres had other ideas however and just as I am getting lapped the front left goes " off the cliff " and Im into the barrier! After a recovery and penalty stop im In 8th and chasing Phillipe, and catching him FAST but at that speed the front left lasted only 7 laps before going red so I gave up and settled for 8th. Somehow I think the moderator will not leave me there

[HendyNichols]

I had never driven Dijon before and only downloaded the circuit half an hour before the server opened for business.

Ouch. This track definitely took me some practice to get used to. Especially with the Lotus which I don't drive very often. Long curves that lead into--more curves

I was hoping someone would keep Rainier off the podium to give me a chance to catch up points-wise. WD Dave & Phil.

[JonnyO]

  Congrats Winners!!!!!!

  My internet stoped in start  :'(

[karlisss]

i enjoyed race and did everything to avoid acidents.
then  after one mistake i let pass some faster cars behind me, but for some of them room was to nqrrow and i get smashed in rear.
pit but after pit my engine clutch blow on straight and finito.
anyway after my debut in67 there is no way back to 65 mod lol.
65 mod now seems like a kid toy

[BadBlood]

I'll post the results later on today.

[Billy Nobrakes]

Good to see a full grid – hopefully there weren’t any late joiners who missed out.
Great choice of track, only one real resting point on the straight then a series of corners which keep the attention fixed.
Bit of a nightmare on Lap 1, I braked quite early for the lefthander before Parabolique & got tapped into the run off. There was a crash fest behind laving a gap to rejoin, until Badblood disengaged his cloaking device & I didn’t have quite enough time to react when he reappeared. (Up to the Mods to sort that out). Got a bit distracted & missed a downshift in the very next turn where the Armco removed one my tyres. This isn’t a track where you want to use your one Shift R on lap one & rejoin in last place after a SnG.
Managed to work my way up to 10th place courtesy of some retirements etc.
Great pace by Hendy (1.22 in the race!) & the podium guys.

[Podkrecony_Ziutek]

.Great pace by Hendy (1.22 in the race!) & the podium guys.

Wow that's fast. 1:22 would give him first row start in Works race and it would be FL in a race

[blito]

i enjoyed race and did everything to avoid acidents.
then  after one mistake i let pass some faster cars behind me, but for some of them room was to nqrrow and i get smashed in rear.

Thats me.....

Bit of a nightmare on Lap 1, I braked quite early for the lefthander before Parabolique & got tapped into the run off.

Again its me...

[bernie]

Soon as I joined qually and noted with amazement  the lap times being produced by Hendy , Dave , Phil and Co. I felt like packing up and going home  
Even with a Lotus 1m22 is quite some lap around here IMO , I had done quits a lot of practise hear and got nowhwere near those times in spite of a PB during qually .
Now i know I'm not the fastest driver on earth but I did get to think why the gap was so large .

looking at my replay is it possible myself and others were not using the same track  judging by the amount "some cars " were being driven over the white lines .

Not sure what the rules say about this and don't wish to take anything away from Hendy's fine win , thought he drove a great race along with Phil and Dave but i do think we need a ruling for the next time we use this track .

 

[Podkrecony_Ziutek]

Bernie, we had that discussion last time we were racing here and it's legal to go over those white lines: https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=8711.msg155396#msg155396

[bernie]

Not seen this track before and dont recall seeing/reading that thread but if it is the case that using the track edge was voted in the past as being OK perhaps an pre race announcement would have been prudent so we could all have been told and be on a level playing field ?

Please dont get me wrong , as i have said I do not wish to take anything away from the podium boys , nor am I asking for pealties or exclusions , but I did think it strange to see on GPLRA when compairing my lap with that of Hendy , that he was using the whole outer apron as part of the track , hence me wondering if he or others were using the same version of Dijon Prenois as there are 2 versions but I dont know what the differences are trackwise .

I have looked again at the replay and note that David Rainier is one who stayed mostly on track , being his home circuit I think he might have known what is acceptable driving or not here .

Just for the record , I'm not talking the odd lap here I'm talking consistent use of the outer track with all 4 wheels well outside the white line on several of the corners .

The question is , was it deleberate crossing the white line or were some of us using a different track layout ?

Would also like to know which other tracks this is allowed on ?




 

[Podkrecony_Ziutek]

Hmm, but you were racing with us in that race

In all seriousness we have looked at the issue vis a vis our rules and the background is UKGPL have followed the GPL Rank rules on world records. Every claim to a world record lap has to be supported by a full replay and is allegedly examined frame by frame to ensure that 2 wheels are always on the tarmac. Therefore "clipping" a corner by putting the 2 inside wheels on the grass is deemed acceptable and is entirely at the risk of the driver, if this results in contact with another car because of the loss of direction/control, then we have rules to cover that.
I think this would cater for the situation above. That said Division Moderators can bring in a specific ruling per track/event if deemed prudent.

I think that explains everything