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November 23, 2012, 09:39:19 PM +0000 - Bremgarten - UKGPL Season 23 (2012) Formula 2 Trophy
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
MagicArsouille
 
Matra MS7 GPL F2 1 2:09.957
125.347mph
1 40:27.322
120.798mph
18 2:10.567
124.761mph
Dunlop  
G Jonsson
 Black Night Racing
Cooper T84 GPL F2 6 +3.292
122.250mph
2 +5.540
120.523mph
18 2:13.243
122.256mph
Dunlop  
Hristo Itchov
 HikiWazaRacing
Ferrari 166 GPL F2 2 +1.246
124.157mph
3 +16.998
119.958mph
18 2:09.942
125.362mph
Firestone  
Al Heller
 Clark-Hill Racing
Matra MS5 GPL F2 3 +1.343
124.065mph
4 +27.853
119.427mph
18 2:11.703
123.685mph
Dunlop  
Phil Thornton
 Antipasti Racing
Cooper T84 GPL F2 7 +3.951
121.649mph
5 +44.353
118.630mph
18 2:13.923
121.635mph
Dunlop  
JonnyO
 Team Coyote
Matra MS7 GPL F2 8 +5.652
120.123mph
6 +1:37.288
116.143mph
18 2:14.055
121.515mph
Dunlop  
Rainier
 Black Night Racing
Ferrari 166 GPL F2 9 +6.115
119.714mph
7 +1:56.328
115.273mph
18 2:16.696
119.168mph
Firestone  
roguk
 Clark-Hill Racing
Matra MS7 GPL F2 10 +6.629
119.264mph
8 (+2) +2:38.526
113.392mph
18 2:16.853
119.031mph
Dunlop  
robert john
 
Brabham BT23 GPL F2 16 +11.698
114.996mph
9 +1L
111.967mph
17 2:14.827
120.819mph
Goodyear  
dave curtis
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT14 GPL F2 14 +9.349
116.935mph
10 +16.443
111.228mph
17 2:19.551
116.730mph
Dunlop  
Billy Nobrakes
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT23 GPL F2 12 +7.977
118.098mph
11 +14.208
111.327mph
17 2:17.474
118.493mph
Goodyear  
francesco
 Antipasti Racing
Matra MS5 GPL F2 15 +10.268
116.168mph
12 (+2) +1:19.883
108.464mph
17 2:21.085
115.460mph
Dunlop  
Johnny.P
 
Lola T100 (BMW) GPL F2 13 +8.814
117.386mph
13 +5L
108.900mph
13 2:17.034
118.874mph
Disco
Dunlop  
bernie
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Matra MS7 GPL F2 11 +6.733
119.173mph
14 +6L
105.947mph
12 2:16.977
118.923mph
Disco
Dunlop  
EvilClive
 HikiWazaRacing
Cooper T84 GPL F2 4 +1.797
123.637mph
15 +8L
116.033mph
10 2:12.728
122.730mph
Disco
Dunlop  
Cookie
 Antipasti Racing
Brabham BT23 GPL F2 5 +2.302
123.165mph
16 (+2) +9L
116.764mph
9 2:12.902
122.569mph
Disco
Goodyear  
UKGPL 3
 
Lola T100 (FVA) GPL F2 17 17 DNS ---
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Firestone  

Moderator's Report

An incident packed first lap - no wonder the moderation is so late!


Lots of naughtiness around Stop n Go.

You must take a Stop n Go for EACH reset. If you don't you risk exclusion. Robert John just gets a warning here.

If you can't take a stop because it is the last lap a time penalty will be added. Even if you dip into the pits to pass the line... cheeky, made us laugh though.


Server replay time: 0h01m05s

Cookie loses it at the end of the Red Zone. Clive has made the pass and Cookie should give way. Nearly got through side by side but it was too tight and carnage ensues.

Always worth backing out if the manoeuvre carries as much risk as this


Server replay time: 0h01m06s

Bit further back David slows for the incident ahead but Rog doesn't. This is clearly a blatant rear end and although he gives the place back and David asked for no penalty Rog has tried hard to earn a penalty. I don't want to disappoint...


Server replay time: 0h01m07s

Fran decides to use John as a brake. It's not great.


Server replay time: 0h02m17s

Tris loses it but H is so close a crash is unavoidable.

SimRacing.org.uk Lap Records
Grand Prix Legends
GPL F2
2:09.957
125.347mph
MagicArsouille
Qualifying
Matra MS7November 23, 2012, 09:39:19 PM +0000
S23F2
Grand Prix Legends
GPL F2
2:09.942
125.362mph
Hristo Itchov
Race
Ferrari 166November 23, 2012, 09:39:19 PM +0000
S23F2
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« on: November 19, 2012, 10:04:00 PM +0000 »

THIS POST IS FOR THE LIGHT & HEAVY RACES

Round nine of the Formula 2 European Tour, is the first of a double header in Switzerland. Bremgarten was built as a motor cycle track in 1931 to the north of Bern. The circuit itself had no true straight, instead being a collection of high-speed corners. From the outset, it’s tree-lined roads, often poor light conditions and changes in road surface made for what was acknowledged to be a very dangerous circuit, especially in the wet. Bremgarten has not hosted an official motorsports event since 1955, when spectator racing sports were banned in Switzerland.

The basic download has fairly poor graphics qualify but there is very good upgrade in SRMZ.

Bremgarten is probably the most difficult circuit of the F2 season & the driving skill of the championship leaders should mean that the handicap chassis are less of a handicap. The top three runners in each division are restricted as follows.
LIGHTS Hristo – Ferrari or Brabham BT14. Evil Clive & Goran - Ferrari, Brabham BT14 or Cooper.
HEAVY Rainier – Ferrari or Brabham BT14. Phil Thornton & Dave Cutis - Ferrari, Brabham BT14 or Cooper

The series will be run on two separate grids; The Lights (on T7) & the Heavys (on UKGPL 3). Please ensure you join the correct race. The Driver list is shown below & the Championship Table can be found here F2 European Tour

Unlimited resets are allowed but every Shift R must be followed by a Stop & Go in the pit lane. If you Reset on the last lap a 30 second time penalty will be awarded.
Incidents should be reported in the usual way.
In line with other divisions the races will be subject to full moderation in the red zone which will be to the apex of the Tenni corner. The Moderator may chose to investigate any other incident, in addition to reported incidents & red zone incidents.

Please note that for Season 23 UKGPL has introduced a system of penalties within each series for drivers accumulating yellow cards – see here
Penalty Points. Drivers incurring these penalties will receive a PM advising when a penalty has been applied & what race it should served.

LIGHT HEAVY
Al Hellar Badblood
Alex Barresi Bernie
Cookie Billy Nobtrakes
Evil Clive Dave Curtis
Fulvio Francesco
Goran Geoff
John Roberts Giovanni
Mark Barresi Il Lupo
Nicky Ickx Jonny O
Ron C Phil Thornton
Robert John Rainier
Magic Arisoulle Jonny
Clutch xxxxx
Blito xxxxx
Hristo Paul Bird
Arf Arf Rog UK
Natan Derek Flint
Skymole Miniblood / the Mayor
Raoni Frizzo xxxxx
Tom G xxxxx
A Monteiro xxxxx

Race List = IGOR
Server = UKGPL3 & T7
Race date = Friday 23-11-2012
Time = 21:00 UK time (21:00 GMT)
Track = Bremgarten
Race length = 18 Laps
Variant = 1967 Formula 2
Damage Model = Intermediate
Qualifying time = max. 30 minutes
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« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2012, 11:51:16 PM +0000 »

Shame - I was hopeful of taking the same car/setup to all tracks.  Trusty old Lola - I think my 1st F2 car from back in the mini fun series.
Never mind;  back in the old girl next time for sure!

And in new tub at a 'new' track too;  which makes me now think of Accolade Grand Prix Circuit for some reason... Smiley
oh dear,  at this rate I'll be stopping every other lap to bash the car back into shape.

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« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2012, 05:57:16 PM +0000 »

A general reminder. Bremgarten is a narrow track with very limited run off areas. The first corner is a rather tricky right hander followed by a left hand kink. Please try & avoid overshooting the turn or an accident in T1. Following cars should be prepared for the leading cars to brake early or heavily. It's NOT a rolling start but try not to ruin anyone elses race before we get started.
Tip 2 - ignore the lap records at the top of this thread - very demoralising for us mortals.
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« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2012, 08:13:37 PM +0000 »

T7 server is set to 18 laps Long race and listening on Igor with OpenGL_V2 on Console session.
Ciao
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« Reply #4 on: November 23, 2012, 01:28:37 PM +0000 »

 Smiley Hi folks !........I'm here this evening ......on this good track !.....c u there .....
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« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2012, 04:40:12 PM +0000 »

Hi,

Is there any virtual mirrors around for the F2,s? I have checked the SRMZ but not found anyting that works for the cooper.

Göran
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« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2012, 06:32:28 PM +0000 »

my virtual mirrors for al 67F2cars :

https://rapidshare.com/files/1268934577/67F2%20virtual%20mirrors.7z

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« Reply #7 on: November 23, 2012, 07:41:09 PM +0000 »

Thanks Nicky, now I only need to know how to move it. Out of the box it is way too high I can only see a little of it if I go for a really high FOV and the reason I need the virtual mirror is that I use a FOV of 55 where I can not see the normal mirrors.

I do have GPL Track Editor and I manage to load the 3do but then I am stuck.

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« Reply #8 on: November 23, 2012, 08:46:54 PM +0000 »

Thanks Nicky, now I only need to know how to move it. Out of the box it is way too high I can only see a little of it if I go for a really high FOV and the reason I need the virtual mirror is that I use a FOV of 55 where I can not see the normal mirrors.

I do have GPL Track Editor and I manage to load the 3do but then I am stuck.

Göran

I can tell you how to do it but probably easier to explain in Igor as I'd need GPL Track Editor open to remind me Wink  Basically you just need to click on the 4 corners of the mirror & change the number of the x or y coordinate - you see it move up/down/left/right & then once you're happy you can save it. 
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« Reply #9 on: November 23, 2012, 09:09:16 PM +0000 »

LATE UPDATE
Due to a glitch on UKGPL7 all drivers will race on UKGPL3 - its still 2 races - results will be split
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« Reply #10 on: November 23, 2012, 10:21:42 PM +0000 »

After this race I go away ,please check for my incident.
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« Reply #11 on: November 23, 2012, 10:36:05 PM +0000 »

Results and replays up.
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« Reply #12 on: November 23, 2012, 10:45:10 PM +0000 »

Wow - seems everyone else was quick here;  particularly the REALLY serious guys.  10 seconds difference from my 'fastest'  eek!

But - what's this?  2x lap records?!  I take it that means the BT14 is not well suited & therefore one has never been seen round here before...  :/
Small victories I guess.

Cheers all.
Dave.

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« Reply #13 on: November 23, 2012, 10:57:44 PM +0000 »

I take it that means the BT14 is not well suited & therefore one has never been seen round here before...  :/

Nobody else was stupid unfortunate enough to take one...  Wink
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« Reply #14 on: November 23, 2012, 11:41:33 PM +0000 »

Well that was an eventful race.  I was very lucky not to get caught up in one of the many shunts I saw; I'm amazed there were so many finishers.  The track is so narrow and with so much of it lined with trees whenever someone crashes they usually end up marooned on the track ready to be collected by the next car.  Somehow I survived and picked up another win.  That takes my total to 312 which is the maximum David Rainier can score if he wins the last round.  So given I have more wins then I should take the title (pending moderation) on countback even if I miss the last round. 

For round 10 it's my turn for the Ferrari but I can't see me extracting the performance out of it that Hristo did tonight.  Phenomenal fastest lap, if I watch the replay a 100 times I'll still not know how he does it!

Don't know why Dave Curtis took the BT14.  It is dog slow.  Maybe he didn't realize how bad it is until tonight.  I didn't know until I drove it for the Silverstone round, never again LOL.  However it does raise the question about the BT14 and the Ferrari.  Maybe for next season it might be worth modding the rules slightly so that the championship leader only has to take the BT14 if they are 75 points clear in the championship and the Ferrari if they are 50 points clear in the championship.  Otherwise the leader takes the Cooper and 2nd and 3rd take the Lotus 48.  It might make for closer races.  The best race we had this season was Hockenheim when nobody was forced to take the BT14 or Ferrari Smiley.
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