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January 25, 2013, 09:38:26 PM +0000 - Mexico City (1962-1979) - UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Extra Trophy (69X)
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
G Jonsson
 Black Night Racing
Lotus 49b (DFV) F1 1969 6 +2.227
110.076mph
1 46:25.384
108.432mph
27 1:42.008
109.659mph
Firestone  
Baab
 Team Baarf
Brabham BT26a (DFV) F1 1969 3 +1.650
110.704mph
2 +4.183
108.269mph
27 1:40.980
110.776mph
Dunlop  
HendyNichols
 
Lotus 49b (DFV) F1 1969 7 +2.835
109.421mph
3 +28.650
107.328mph
27 1:41.390
110.328mph
Firestone  
Piero Mercaldo
 Squadra Padova Corse
Brabham BT26a (DFV) F1 1969 5 +1.754
110.590mph
4 (+2) +30.808
107.246mph
27 1:41.076
110.670mph
Dunlop  
EvilClive
 Blue Moose Racing
Lotus 49b (DFV) F1 1969 4 +1.745
110.600mph
5 +53.018
106.407mph
27 1:41.674
110.019mph
Firestone  
NickyIckx
 Antipasti Racing
Brabham BT26a (DFV) F1 1969 13 +4.858
107.298mph
6 +1:14.687
105.601mph
27 1:44.321
107.228mph
Dunlop  
AnGex
 Black Night Racing
Lotus 49b (DFV) F1 1969 8 +3.163
109.071mph
7 +1:42.079
104.599mph
27 1:43.412
108.170mph
Firestone  
bernie
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Lotus 49b (DFV) F1 1969 14 +6.897
105.239mph
8 +1L
102.109mph
26 1:45.612
105.917mph
Firestone  
Ronniepeterson
 Clark-Hill Racing
Brabham BT26a (DFV) F1 1969 10 +3.396
108.824mph
9 +3L
106.155mph
24 1:43.297
108.291mph
accident
Dunlop  
fpolicardi
 Team7
Ferrari 312 (1969) F1 1969 11 +4.166
108.015mph
10 +4:08.865
96.645mph
24 1:43.477
108.102mph
Disco
Dunlop  
Artiglietti
 
Brabham BT26a (DFV) F1 1969 1 1:39.395
112.542mph
11 +4L
107.929mph
23 1:39.979
111.885mph
Disco
Dunlop  
Phil Thornton
 Antipasti Racing
McLaren M7 (DFV) F1 1969 9 +3.334
108.890mph
12 +8L
105.292mph
19 1:42.543
109.087mph
Disco
Firestone  
Flow
 
Brabham BT26a (DFV) F1 1969 2 +0.958
111.468mph
13 (+3) +25.796
103.963mph
19 1:41.726
109.963mph
Disco
Dunlop  
Marco Mercaldo
 Squadra Padova Corse
Matra MS80 (DFV) F1 1969 12 +4.832
107.325mph
14 +21L
93.374mph
6 1:45.447
106.083mph
Disco
Dunlop  
HendyNichols
 
Lotus 49b (DFV) F1 1969 15 DNS ---
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Firestone  
2 UKGPL_T7
 
McLaren M7 (DFV) F1 1969 15 16 ---
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Firestone  

Moderator's Report

Nice Clean Red Zone like the Heavies? Not a hope :(

After the crash fest that was lap 1, however, there were no reported incidents.


Server replay time: 0

Piero is a bit hot in T1 and slides into Evil who has got very sideways.

This was a misjudgement from Piero and the contact was not heavy, however he should have been more cautious into the tightening bend. He may have been surprised by how sideways Evil was but anyone who has seen Blue Moose's lead driver sling his car round a corner will recognise the style...


Not sure why Bernie has joined the Light drivers - we would like to see him back in the Heavies!


Server replay time: 0h01m05s

Florian is too hot into T1... (have we seen that before?). No excuses for this one. Just too quick too soon. He rear ends AA. Baab is caught in the melee.


Server replay time: 0h01m30s

Piero makes a late dive on Fulvio and takes the Italian out. Piero might have made the corner but only if Fulvio had stopped...

The rukes have this: The overtaking car had NOT achieved a 50% or greater overlap at the point of turn-in. There was no loss of control by either driver. Penalty for overtaking driver.


Server replay time: 0h02m14s

Ronnie bounces off the polos and into the path of Andreas who takes avoiding action and spins. Unfortunate.


Server replay time: 0h02m39s

The Mercaldo boys are having an exciting first lap. Marco gets a bit sideways at Peralta and Baab takes hi opportunity to get up the inside. Marco moves gently back to the racing line and just clips Baab who is unaffected. Marco should have been more aware of Bob's position and left room but he is the only one affected.

January 25, 2013, 09:49:40 PM +0000 - Mexico City (1962-1979) - UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Extra Trophy (69X)
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Rainier
 Black Night Racing
McLaren M7 (DFV) F1 1969 2 +0.125
104.353mph
1 47:58.227
104.953mph
27 1:44.921
106.633mph
Firestone  
Geoff65
 Clark-Hill Racing
Lotus 49b (DFV) F1 1969 1 1:47.088
104.475mph
2 +23.348
104.108mph
27 1:44.748
106.809mph
Firestone  
il_lupo_mannaro
 Black Night Racing
McLaren M7 (DFV) F1 1969 4 +1.802
102.746mph
3 +1:20.365
102.102mph
27 1:45.811
105.736mph
Firestone  
philippe GIRARD
 Blue Moose Racing
Matra MS80 (DFV) F1 1969 6 +5.079
99.745mph
4 +1L
98.094mph
26 1:49.665
102.020mph
Dunlop  
Nigel Smith
 Blue Moose Racing
McLaren M7 (DFV) F1 1969 9 5 +22.345
97.361mph
26 1:49.524
102.152mph
Firestone  
BadBlood
 Blue Moose Racing
McLaren M7 (DFV) F1 1969 7 +21.521
86.993mph
6 +19L
102.254mph
8 1:46.680
104.875mph
Disco
Firestone  
Adam Cooper
 Team Coyote
Brabham BT26a (DFV) F1 1969 5 +1.891
102.662mph
7 +26L
79.716mph
1 2:00.638
92.741mph
Disco
Dunlop  
francesco
 
McLaren M7 (DFV) F1 1969 3 +1.629
102.910mph
8 DNS ---
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Firestone  
UKGPL 3
 
BRM P126/139 F1 1969 8 9 ---
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Dunlop  

Moderator's Report

Nice Clean Red Zone although BB owes Phillipe a beer after PG is kind at T1. BB should have been more cautious as he was always going to go wide.

No reported incidents although maybe that was because Bernie was on the other grid ;)

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« on: January 23, 2013, 11:13:24 PM +0000 »

UKGPL Season 24 Extra Trophy (69X)
Race 1 Mexico City

Welcome to the first round of the Extra Trophy for 69 Extra chassis. Mexico lets the men be sorted from the boys. This is a standard Papy track which has a really long start/finish straight and lots of tight twisty sections! Hmm, who chose this track?

Our race is at the historic 2.747-mile race track "Autódromo Hermanos Rodriguez" in Mexico City, named for the famous racing drivers Ricardo and Pedro Rodríguez. This track first hosted F1 in 1962 when Ricardo was killed in practice for the non-championship event. Despite this inauspicious start the course was a staple of the F1 championship between 1963 and 1970. The grip of the 69X is useful on this track and should provide some close racing if we can avoid the deadly polos. However, be aware that it could be a little crowded when we get to the esses first time round. There will be crashes and patience is a must. The first lap will be fully moderated within the red zone. The red zone will extend to the whole of the first lap.

Please check the Season 24 pages for details regarding rules and the Extra Trophy pages in particular.

It is very important that drivers are FULLY familiar with the rules relating to Shift-R. EVERY Shift-R MUST be followed by a Stop-and-Go or the driver will be excluded.

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LIGHT ServerUKGPL_T7_2
IP address62.149.202.168
HEAVY ServerUKGPL3
IP addressping ukgpl3.dyndns.org
Date25-01-2013
Race timeRace starts at 21:30 UK time
Qualifying timeBetween 30 and 60 minutes, starting no later than 21:00 UK time
TrackPapy track - Mexico City (mexico)
Mod69X
Damage modelINT
Race length27 laps
ReplayAvailable here


Reserve drivers please note; you must leave the server with 35 minutes of qualifying left, for a total of 10 minutes, to allow full timers to join. FULL TIME DRIVERS GET PRIORITY.

Heavy and Light drivers will drive on separate servers. Please ensure that you know which class you are and that you join the right server

LIGHTS on UKGPL_T7_2; HEAVY on UKGPL3

The Light and Heavy Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page

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« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2013, 08:52:19 PM +0000 »

hi ...
...I wont be able to race tonight, IGOR is not working anymore  Huh, I try to joint by IP but don't work too ......ggrrrrr !... Angry.

...have a nice time folks .....
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« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2013, 10:06:39 PM +0000 »

Hmmm. Join by IP should have worked Tris. What message?

Anyway, Heavy server crashed on Lap 1 - I was left alone - should I continue for a maiden win? No Sad Felt guilty as the server is upstairs...

Restarted and then had some nice laps with Fabio but blew the engine and then crashed getting into the pits... one-S/R is tough... These are fun though but we might run one grid at some point as attendances fall (they always do).
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« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2013, 10:09:48 PM +0000 »

My error after the 5 minutes of qualy.I was alrady on the starting line when the doubt of the fuel arrive in my mind,I go to check but in this way was impossible to join again the race....sig.
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« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2013, 10:15:52 PM +0000 »

Thanks to a pile up at T1 I inherited second place and held onto it for a while.  About mid race Bob passed me and I got sideways at the Esses trying to stay with him.  Got collected by Hendy and had to shiftR.  Did a S&G and tried to make up for lost time but got discoed with 8 laps to go Angry.  Pity first half of the race was good, nice racing Hendy and Bob  thumbup2
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« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2013, 10:25:27 PM +0000 »

Sorry for the contact Art and eD respectively. Good to see you both carry on although I noted Art had a blown engine later. Grats to the podium.

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« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2013, 10:58:23 PM +0000 »

I was too tired to enter this. Looking at the lap times from the race and the track records above, something appears to be wrong?
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« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2013, 11:05:36 PM +0000 »

Yep - definite car mapping issue.
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« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2013, 11:53:13 PM +0000 »

Sorry for the contact Art and eD respectively. Good to see you both carry on although I noted Art had a blown engine later. Grats to the podium.



Actually I think there was some substantial warp implied Ronnie, at least on my replay. And there was a lot in general tonight..So np of course, although I didnt blow the engine but crashed rather stupidly with 4 to go, caught out by some slow moving Ferrari I think, while trying in desperation to pass Bob. I had a lot of wings, which helped the laptimes but made life rather difficult during the race. So, was going bonkers trying to jump Bob, who was flying on the straight. I even did a 360 at L20, at the entry of the esses. Didnt touch a thing, nose pointed in the right direction, all my luck used up  Grin Grin, should have retired back then actually, so no complaints..

Sorry again to Bob for that bump at the last corner somewhere during the race, my fault, we had a lucky escape.

As for the start, will wait for the Mods to see and decide, although I am not quite sure Florian could have kept his side of the road at the speed he was going.

Everything else (and there was a lot...) I think was all right, thanks to Bernie and Nicky for letting me by. Grats to Goran for the win, and podium and finishers of course. See you next time guys.
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« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2013, 12:12:15 AM +0000 »

Chout se the Lotus but my set up was to say the least "crap" actually used a steve cloyd jobby but found it unsuited to my driving style (they usually are )  changed a few things ( everything but the gearbox ) in the vain hope it would be better in the race , actually set my best time on race fuel so thought it would do me well but after a few laps it was awful , poor turn in mostly and slow out , just what you dont need . then I began to feel car sick everytime through the twizzy bits , felt like packing in but decided to keep going in the hope that everyone ahead would falter , a few did , the only cars I passed had sick engins or spun out . couldn't see the pit board cos the front wing blocked half of it out so no idea how many laps of torture were left till the flagman waved the chequered .

Qestion are there different physics betwixt the high and low wing cars or is they the same Huh

grats to all those who finished and to the lucky ones who got to taste the champagne  Smiley
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« Reply #10 on: January 26, 2013, 12:18:46 AM +0000 »

Qestion are there different physics betwixt the high and low wing cars or is they the same Huh

No difference in physics, just visuals.
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« Reply #11 on: January 26, 2013, 12:22:26 AM +0000 »


Anyway, Heavy server crashed on Lap 1 - I was left alone - should I continue for a maiden win? No Sad Felt guilty as the server is upstairs...


Typical, I was in the lead, and couldn't spot Dave in my mirrors....all looking good......then......suddenly all looking at each other in chat. Bugger, server got fed up and chucked us all....(less the owner) out on our ears.

Managed to scrabble together a part way reasonable lap to take pole for the restart. Dave proceeded to do to me, exactly what I did to him on L1 of the previous start. Drove past me on the outside, so I had to leave him best into T1 for the first time. It was difficult staying with him for the early laps, the car was in no way interested in being pushed along. Managed to string together some fair laps, and with the assistance of some draft from Davids' Mac I managed (lord knows how) to post the fastest lap on lap 16. Then on L17 into T1, my 8yo decided he needed to tell me all about the TV program he was watching, continuing even after being told 3 times that I was racing....not practicing. Inevitably the break in concentration caused a spin at T1, but unlike Atillio, it wedged firmly against the outside rail....costing much time to turn around. Child exited, stage left, at a gallop.....his work done.  Embarrassed

The Lotus was grubby to drive for a few laps after til the rears cooled off again. Dave had shot through and was out of sight.....just cruised to the end from there to pick up the points. Not sure without the spin I'd have been able to do much about passing Dave when I caught him, he wasn't making much in the way of mistakes. Well done mate, deserving winner.
Paul, speedshifting will always kill your engine....still need to sort those upshifts out!
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« Reply #12 on: January 26, 2013, 12:56:59 AM +0000 »

...Qestion are there different physics betwixt the high and low wing cars or is they the same Huh...

As Hristo said, it's just a visual difference. I prefer to run with no wings (for visibility's sake). To run no wings online, start an offline session with the car you want to use, pick the gfx options you want (little drop down box on the car selection screen), then when you join an online server (with the same car) you'll have the wing option you chose selected.
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« Reply #13 on: January 26, 2013, 02:57:12 AM +0000 »

You can also just set it from GEM+
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« Reply #14 on: January 26, 2013, 12:09:04 PM +0000 »

Then on L17 into T1, my 8yo decided he needed to tell me all about the TV program he was watching, continuing even after being told 3 times that I was racing....not practicing.

Good boy ! I send him all my thanks  Cheesy

It seems the good side of the tracks for the start was the left one.
Like Senna in Suzuka90, I will propose for the next races to change the pole position from right to left  Wink 
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