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April 21, 2013, 10:37:58 PM +0100 - Zolder (1965-72) - UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Works Trophy (67)
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
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Artiglietti
 
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 3 +0.637
105.823mph
1 49:57.584
103.100mph
33 1:29.671
104.439mph
Goodyear  
Arf Arf Arf
 Team Baarf
Lotus 49 (Cosworth) F1 1967 4 +0.879
105.535mph
2 +25.536
102.229mph
33 1:29.302
104.871mph
Firestone  
Al Heller
 Clark-Hill Racing
Lotus 49 (Cosworth) F1 1967 5 +1.215
105.137mph
3 +26.962
102.181mph
33 1:29.693
104.414mph
Firestone  
fpolicardi
 Team7
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 8 +3.046
103.019mph
4 +45.337
101.564mph
33 1:30.330
103.677mph
Goodyear  
Doni Yourth
 Blue Moose Racing
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 9 +3.478
102.532mph
5 +1:05.259
100.903mph
33 1:31.126
102.772mph
Goodyear  
AndyL
 
Cooper T81b (Maserati) F1 1967 11 +3.867
102.097mph
6 +1:06.444
100.864mph
33 1:30.953
102.967mph
Firestone  
Rainier
 Black Night Racing
Ferrari 312 (1967) F1 1967 10 +3.518
102.487mph
7 +1:11.870
100.686mph
33 1:31.295
102.581mph
Firestone  
Ronniepeterson
 Clark-Hill Racing
Eagle T1G (Weslake 1967) F1 1967 6 +1.308
105.027mph
8 +4L
99.323mph
29 1:30.327
103.681mph
Disco
Goodyear  
Phil Thornton
 Antipasti Racing
Ferrari 312 (1967) F1 1967 12 +5.775
100.017mph
9 +12L
98.271mph
21 1:31.455
102.402mph
Disco
Firestone  
Hristo Itchov
 
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 1 1:27.861
106.591mph
10 +15L
93.952mph
18 1:28.868
105.383mph
Disco
Goodyear  
EvilClive
 Blue Moose Racing
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 7 +2.140
104.056mph
11 +19L
101.313mph
14 1:29.522
104.613mph
unknown
Goodyear  
Baab
 Team Baarf
Lotus 49 (Cosworth) F1 1967 2 +0.462
106.033mph
12 +24L
102.146mph
9 1:29.159
105.039mph
Disco
Firestone  
Gpg UKGPL
 
Ferrari 312 (1967) F1 1967 13 13 DNS ---
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Firestone  

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With the front row failing to finish (Hristo succumbing to engine failure and Bob crashing out at Eerste Linkse) Attillio made the most of his chances and picked up his second win of the season. After some bad luck in the early rounds it looks like Attillio is now on a run of good fortune. Despite a few excursions onto the grass, Arf grabbed second place from Al Heller who also had a few moments but survived to claim the final podium spot.

Not a perfectly clean race but there was nothing in the red zone and no reported incidents.

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1:27.861
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« on: April 17, 2013, 11:24:15 PM +0100 »

Season 24 Works Trophy (67) - Round 7 - Zolder

For round 7 we are at Zolder in Belgium.  Zolder was built in 1963 but it didn't host the Belgian Grand Prix until 1973.  Zolder hosted the Formula One Belgian Grand Prix on 10 separate occasions in the 1970s and 1980s.  But when Spa Franchorchamps was significantly revised and the safety standards vastly improved the Grand Prix returned to it's original home and Zolder fell out of favour.

Race List = IGOR
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IP address = 62.195.2.111
Race date = 21-04-2013
Race Time = race starts at 21:30 UK time
Qualifying Time = Between 30 and 60 minutes, starting no later than 21:00 UK time
Track = Zolder
Variant = 67F1
Damage Model = PRO
Race length = 50 minutes (laps 33)
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« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2013, 06:43:03 PM +0100 »

GPG server is set for 33 laps Long race and listening on Igor.
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« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2013, 08:23:56 PM +0100 »

GPG server is set for 33 laps Long race and listening on Igor.
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Thanks Fulvio
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« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2013, 10:41:40 PM +0100 »

Well that appears to have been 20 points well spent. Q4, P2... however...

Got off in P4 and we seemed to gap the rest, so I assume there was an incident behind us. Soon after Baab disappeared and H was smoking and limping round. That left me and Art having a great race..although he was always 1/2 secs clear. We had 20 secs on Fulvio and I was thinking about settling down for 2nd, as I could only see an off or an engine failure from Art letting me by - didn't think I could catch him. Then we came up to lap H at T1 and it upset my concentration and I went off into the fence. It took me about 20 secs to get out, so of course I had the pack upon me. I made a small error going under the bridge, and ended up coming out the corner sideways. I suspect Clive(?) had nowhere to go and couldn't avoid t-boning me, and ended up upside down. Sorry about that, whoever you were...

Al, not quite sure happened next - we seemed to contact, and Fulvio went past. Later in the race you were close behind me (but thankfully not fast enought to challenge), and I saw you flickering a lot, so I wonder if the contact was warping?? I'll have a look at the replay, but I certainly won't be making any complaints - just hope I haven't done anything to warrant someone complaining about me......

After all this fuss the race settled down for me into first of all chasing Fulvio to regain P2 - not sure if you broke down or had an off, but once past you I thought I was in a fairly safe place, only to find Al charging hard and fast after me. Can't say it was exactly fun holding you off, but it kept things interesting for the last 10 laps  Smiley

Congrat to all finishers, esp Art and Al

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« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2013, 11:04:02 PM +0100 »

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Just had a look at our coming together. It looks like Fulvio, who was also caught up in the contact I had with Clive kind of acted as a screen, as he was between us. I don't think either of us could see the other going for the corner, as all I could see in my mirrors was Fulvio, and from your cockpit it looks like you can't see me moving off...

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« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2013, 11:22:52 PM +0100 »

Not a good race for me.  Having frame rate issues with Pribluda again, I'll have to remove it.

Grats to the podium, nice to see a few new names up there Smiley
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« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2013, 08:21:47 AM +0100 »

Not a good race for me.  Having frame rate issues with Pribluda again, I'll have to remove it.

Grats to the podium, nice to see a few new names up there Smiley

Phil, I had very similar issues with frame rate, especially out of the final quick chicane, which made it really tricky. I have had problems at many tracks, and I tracked them down to the new Pribluda as well. Actually, I used to have the old prib files somewhere, and making a quick swap cured most of the problems at most tracks. Now, I tend to strip down my graphics instead, when I bump into a problematic (for me) track. For this race I was back to 640/480, a rather odd looking, perfectly white sky, and only cars in the mirrors (which gave me a bizarre view of my front wheels in the lower half of the mirror   blink ?). Guess you must have tried that as well, but it might have been worth mentioning.

As for my race, it was a good one until half way through. When I saw Bob and H disappear from the lead in the space of a couple of laps, I thought it was looking pretty good. I couldn't shake off Arf though, who was very consistent and seemed happy to adopt the scavenger tactic for the time being (it had payed well for the both of us until that point  Grin). Around half way through the race, my pit board brought good news for me, with a lead suddenly extended to 30 secs plus over Policardi. So, from then on, I switched  to multigranny21 mode, focusing on bringing  the car home and putting extra care in saving the engine (at one stage I had a look, it was 82 degrees  Grin Grin). Wins are rare events these days, you better grab them with both hands..Grats to Arf and the omnipresent Al, and to finishers as well, it is a great flowing track but rather unforgiving I think.
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« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2013, 11:37:00 AM +0100 »

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Just had a look at our coming together. It looks like Fulvio, who was also caught up in the contact I had with Clive kind of acted as a screen, as he was between us. I don't think either of us could see the other going for the corner, as all I could see in my mirrors was Fulvio, and from your cockpit it looks like you can't see me moving off...

Arf

Yep I agree Arf - I was going to say the same thing last night in Igor but had to rush off. As you say, neither of us could see each other because of Fulvio's car & I can't see that either of us did anything wrong so no complaints from me.

After losing out on a podium with an engine blowup at the last race, I was relieved to grab 3rd here, though despite splurging out on a Lotus it wasn't an easy ride by any means. My limited practice meant I was rather tentative during the opening laps while still figuring out the limits. That meant I was distinctly uncomfortable with Clive snapping at my heels, made even worse as his Brabham appeared to be warping so much. After nervously watching Clive's car hopping around in my mirrors for a lap, decided it prudent to lift on the main straight & follow him around until the lag calmed down somewhat. (My connection has been rock-solid this season but Arf said that my car was warping from his view which made me wonder if something odd was happening with the server... my replay certainly shows Clive's car jumping around like a Mexican bean though)

With H's engine letting go & Clive going off at T1, I set about trying to catch the leaders - and promptly stuffed the car into the fence... I got completely snagged on the fencing & was VERY fortunate to extricate myself from its clutches & find a way back onto the track though lost a lot of time in the process. A podium looked a long way off from there, but I gradually began to make better use of the Lotus & started slowly closing the gap to Clive & Fulvio ahead. A few laps later their big incident with Arf looked to have given me the chance to cruise past all three of them unchallenged, but then the aforementioned tangle with Arf occurred & I was back down to 4th. Aided by Lotus power, both me & Arf were able to get back past Fulvio though & I spent the remainder of the race trying to apply some pressure on Arf for 2nd. Well done to Arf for staying in front & of course to Art for a good win in the Brabham.
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« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2013, 01:10:28 PM +0100 »

If I hadn't gone wide at the hairpin twice in a row cause hot tires, you both would have more work to pass me  Wink
About the mess at Villeneuve tragic end place, I had to stop the car to avoid to hit Arf spinning in front of me. To thx me for saving his life he restarted ahead of me and tangled with Al coming and trying to gain on both of us slowly restarting. I have to say that a big grin appeared on my face at the moments  Grin
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« Reply #9 on: April 22, 2013, 01:11:15 PM +0100 »

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 " It took me about 20 secs to get out, so of course I had the pack upon me. I made a small error going under the bridge, and ended up coming out the corner sideways. I suspect Clive(?) had nowhere to go and couldn't avoid t-boning me, and ended up upside down. Sorry about that, whoever you were..."  quote

Yep! it was me.  Undecided

I have been persevering with the Brabham lately as it was always a car that just seemed slow for me, although it obviously is not! Qually was a slight disappointment although I was on race fuel I was further back on the grid than I was hoping for. But seeing the times that Hristo and Art were setting it was probably about as good as I could have hoped. I had changed my setup with about 5 mins to go in qually to overcome rear tyre melt syndrome and it appeared to be working in the few laps that I did before the start.
I was still learning how to extract the best from the setup in the first few laps of the race and slowly turned up the wick as the laps went by. I picked up a place or two as some cars went grass cutting and I found myself closing on a Lotus driven by Al. My view of things was rock solid, so I apologise if I was warping for anyone else. But Al looked slightly vulnerable in his Lotus and I felt I could perhaps make the pass somewhere if only I could match his acceleration out of the corners.
I had a chuckle to myself when Al left the door open on the S/F straight and I promptly stormed past and tested the catch fencing at T1!! what a muppet!!
Well the red mist got thicker as I untangled myself from the fencing and I lost a couple more places.
I quickly closed on David and Doni who were battling ahead  and eventually found a way past them as I increased my pace. Next up was Fulvio who wobbled out of the final chicane and gave me the chance to get up the inside of T1. Next up was Al ( again) and this time I got past and survived lol. Arf surprised me by emerging from the undergrowth at T1 and slithering around in his Lotus, but it looked like he might be willing to give up his 2nd place if I applied some pressure before he could settle back into his rhythm. T2 and he was a bit sideways and I was on to his tail up towards the bridge, where I knew I was quick.
So, by the time Arf put a wheel on the grass I was counting the bolts on his gearbox and planning a dive down the inside. When he went wide I managed to tighten my line and thought I had the pass nailed until he squirmed sideways and came back across the track. I could see the accident coming as if in slow motion, but I had committed my car to a tighter line and nailed the gas. The brakes were never going to stop me and there was just no where to go  Sad  ................ so I hit Arf and cartwheeled out of the race.
A real shame as I was beginning to get confidence in that setup and the lap times were coming down into the sub 1:30's quite easily. I don't think I would ever have caught Art as he was miles away, but a 2nd spot might have been possible.

Grats to those who did make it to the finish and get their just rewards.
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« Reply #10 on: April 22, 2013, 07:41:18 PM +0100 »

Not a good race for me.  Having frame rate issues with Pribluda again, I'll have to remove it.

Grats to the podium, nice to see a few new names up there Smiley

Phil, I had very similar issues with frame rate, especially out of the final quick chicane, which made it really tricky. I have had problems at many tracks, and I tracked them down to the new Pribluda as well. Actually, I used to have the old prib files somewhere, and making a quick swap cured most of the problems at most tracks. Now, I tend to strip down my graphics instead, when I bump into a problematic (for me) track. For this race I was back to 640/480, a rather odd looking, perfectly white sky, and only cars in the mirrors (which gave me a bizarre view of my front wheels in the lower half of the mirror   blink ?). Guess you must have tried that as well, but it might have been worth mentioning.
I've tried just about everything.  I think there is an issue with the OpenGL V2 rasterizer not being able to cope with 2D graphics very well (the V2 Direct X is worse).  Everytime there is a chat message (e.g. during a race when someone leaves the server) my frame rate takes a big hit.  If it happens mid way through a tricky corner, I'm off.  The Pribluda displays are also 2D so each time they update (which is quite regular) my frame rate is affected.  Not as bad as it is with chat but nevertheless it makes the driving very difficult.

I'm not sure if it is Pribluda, the V2 Rasterizer or some sort of interaction between them.  I'll take Pribluda off and see if I still get the frame rate problems with the chat messages. 
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« Reply #11 on: April 22, 2013, 08:49:57 PM +0100 »

If you need some information on the car, have you tried the GPL Digital Display Modifier? It gives you very basic data on the car, nothing about opponents.....
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« Reply #12 on: April 22, 2013, 08:53:19 PM +0100 »

If you need some information on the car, have you tried the GPL Digital Display Modifier? It gives you very basic data on the car, nothing about opponents.....

That's what I've been using for years now. I don't need stinking Pribluda distracting me or causing issues.  Grin
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« Reply #13 on: April 22, 2013, 09:20:56 PM +0100 »

I use old Prib with Open GL2, but I turn off  F7 and F8 during races leaving only ............the gap to cars in front and behind/tyre temps/oil temp/ and fuel level showing.

I find that makes a considerable difference to my frame rate. I suspect that if you select all of the constantly updating data available in Prib it must impact upon the main processor?  as GPL relies upon that little nugget for its existence.
I'm sure someone more knowledgeable than me will be able to give a more technical answer, but I do know that if I have everything that Prib can provide switched on, my frame rate suffers.
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« Reply #14 on: April 23, 2013, 09:12:31 AM +0100 »

Ah well, but I never have any prib switched on constantly. I have everything organized on my wheel so I can flick them on and off when I am on the straights to have a look at what I need. If I had them on constantly, even only some of them, my frame rate would suffer horribly. Even the infos at the bottom of the screen, about oil temps, gears and so on, are normally hidden.

My point was, there is a correlation prib/dropping frame rates even when prib is switched off, as I suppose the data keep being updated. And, the old prib is much less demanding on the system than the new one, so you might want to try and swap them around (it's only a couple of files to replace in the GPL folder). Also, the most effective way to reduce frame rates problems is to strip down the graphics to 640/480. I have to say, I remember in my first season a couple of years ago I could keep prib switched on all the time (although it was the old one). Now I couldn't do that on most tracks, pc is the same so I suppose theres also some file corruption or bad interaction that's going on.
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