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May 28, 2013, 09:36:36 PM +0100 - Watkins Glen (Classic) - UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Novices Trophy (65)
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
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Andy Miller
 Clark-Hill Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 3 +0.191
117.009mph
1 39:15.296
116.000mph
33 1:10.677
117.142mph
Goodyear  
roguk
 Clark-Hill Racing
Honda RA272 F1 1965 4 +0.255
116.904mph
2 +6.807
115.666mph
33 1:10.796
116.945mph
Goodyear  
il_lupo_mannaro
 Black Night Racing
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 1 1:10.566
117.326mph
3 +10.143
115.503mph
33 1:10.130
118.056mph
Dunlop  
Billy Nobrakes
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 5 +0.264
116.889mph
4 +27.333
114.669mph
33 1:11.035
116.552mph
Goodyear  
PaulV
 Blue Moose Racing
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 12 5 +43.248
113.909mph
33 1:10.862
116.836mph
Dunlop  
Ross Hawkey
 Clark-Hill Racing
BRM P261 (1965) F1 1965 8 +1.418
115.015mph
6 +53.564
113.421mph
33 1:10.809
116.924mph
Dunlop  
BadBlood
 Blue Moose Racing
Honda RA272 F1 1965 2 +0.029
117.278mph
7 +55.229
113.342mph
33 1:10.421
117.568mph
Goodyear  
dave curtis
 Black Night Racing
Cooper T77 (Climax) F1 1965 6 +0.419
116.634mph
8 +58.811
113.174mph
33 1:11.003
116.604mph
Dunlop  
Johnny.P
 Blue Moose Racing
Brabham BT7 (Climax) F1 1965 9 +1.452
114.961mph
9 +1:07.348
112.775mph
33 1:11.998
114.993mph
Dunlop  
Wiltshire Tony
 Toyland Racing
Honda RA272 F1 1965 10 +3.481
111.811mph
10 +2L
107.465mph
31 1:13.456
112.710mph
Goodyear  
Boggy
 
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 7 +0.582
116.366mph
11 +12L
109.414mph
21 1:10.503
117.431mph
Disco
Goodyear  
UKGPL 3
 
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 11 12 DNS ---
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Dunlop  

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Server replay time: 0h00m41s

Badblood is stranded on the line after his engine blows. Rog clips him but continues. Billy does well to avoid Rog as he comes across him. Dave then realises the Honda is going nowhere and makes valiant efforts to stop but can't quite. Ross is just intent on getting away and rear ends Dave and then spins into Johnny. Tony amazingly steers through the carnage and zooms away. Paul V is having a nice cigar at the back watching the latest action movie 'The Slow and the Pretty Cross 10' unfold in front of him.

Badblood sadly resets, his dreams of glory up in smoke (literally).

I am not going to penalise anyone BUT I would remind you all that you cannot win off the line, but you CAN lose it. You always need to be cautious at the start. These collisions could, and should, have been avoided. Having said that, I shouldn't have blown my engine :(

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« Reply #45 on: May 31, 2013, 09:34:31 AM +0100 »

Hi Johnny
My reply to Fabio was the concern of a poor turn out for the race, I was trying to put forward a reason for this and ways of attracting new drivers. Personally I don't mind running at the back as long as I see improvements as I progress through the season (my first full one).
See you all at East London and going by first practice, look forward to waving to the leaders as they cruise by Sad

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« Reply #46 on: May 31, 2013, 01:02:10 PM +0100 »

It's been magnified this season because of the inters or lack of. Gpl is difficult it's why we like it so if you are new you may get lapped. I used to get lapped- I just put up with it until I got better.

Of course it's because of the Inters merging with Novices and Pros. My point to you is that in many races this season, the lap times at the front in Novices were comparable with the lap times in Pros, which leaves the regular Novices without any real chance to compete for the top spots. Likewise with some Inters in Pros.
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« Reply #47 on: May 31, 2013, 02:37:51 PM +0100 »

I don't disagree with that Hristo but the top novs ie those who sometimes match the back of the pro grid are many- maybe 6 or 8- would their removal mean a barren novice trophy? Everyone is entitled to their opinion but I would doubt that some early participants simply gave up because the races were quicker than they expected- my opinion.

On to EastLondon and I remember having a nightmare here in a fun race, this is a tricky circuit that I find difficult. A practice run last night was not inspiring.
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« Reply #48 on: May 31, 2013, 04:16:00 PM +0100 »

I don't disagree with that Hristo but the top novs ie those who sometimes match the back of the pro grid are many- maybe 6 or 8- would their removal mean a barren novice trophy? Everyone is entitled to their opinion but I would doubt that some early participants simply gave up because the races were quicker than they expected- my opinion.

On to EastLondon and I remember having a nightmare here in a fun race, this is a tricky circuit that I find difficult. A practice run last night was not inspiring.

That's the point though! The top Novices aren't really novices, they are Inter and Pro material. It just negates the purpose of a Novices division to have such fast drivers race in it. And it wasn't the back of the pros they were matching in some races, but the front! If it was just 1-2 drivers dominating Novices, it wouldn't be so bad. I mean, they would become champion and vice-champion, then move up a division, but with half the grid being so fast, it can't be called Novices anymore.
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« Reply #49 on: May 31, 2013, 04:31:51 PM +0100 »

You can't really define a Novice in terms of speed alone though. I was 0.02 of pole with an untowed lap but in the race I averaged over 1:13. Take a look at my attempted overtakes of Tony and Johnny (who weren't resisting too hard!) if you want to see 'Novice'  Grin
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« Reply #50 on: May 31, 2013, 04:45:30 PM +0100 »

But Paul if you take the opposite view then the top 4 or 5 who barely make a mistake can hardly be called Novice, by definition "A person new to or inexperienced in a field or situation:"

Bring back Inters for next season if a moderator can be found.

I watched your replay  Grin

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« Reply #51 on: May 31, 2013, 04:52:09 PM +0100 »

Yep - barely make a mistake...that is the important part!

We will try very hard to run Inters next season.
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« Reply #52 on: May 31, 2013, 05:04:59 PM +0100 »

Sorry Hristo my last comment was meant to start I do agree- apologies for the confusion.
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« Reply #53 on: June 04, 2013, 08:26:33 PM +0100 »

Has anyone practised at East London yet?
What are decent sector times?
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« Reply #54 on: June 04, 2013, 09:47:58 PM +0100 »

The worst thing? We were really few guys: where are all the Novs?!?


Hope to be back for East London, I've had my mother in law over for 2 and half months and now it's TT week here, so might not happen Smiley
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« Reply #55 on: June 05, 2013, 12:06:31 AM +0100 »

The worst thing? We were really few guys: where are all the Novs?!?


Hope to be back for East London, I've had my mother in law over for 2 and half months and now it's TT week here, so might not happen Smiley
Last time my mother in law visited I told the Mrs there was a special GPL series where you had to race a different track every night of the week.
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« Reply #56 on: June 05, 2013, 07:36:37 PM +0100 »

I have been absent for the last few races through illness but I feel I would have been well outclassed here... I am finding the pace in this division quite scary.... 2 seasons ago I was winning races in the BT7... now I am midfield at best regardless of car!  Sad
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« Reply #57 on: June 05, 2013, 07:38:36 PM +0100 »

Question I've been meaning to ask after this race last week.

In the top right corner of my screen I noticed the letters L Q S . What is this?
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« Reply #58 on: June 05, 2013, 09:25:59 PM +0100 »

Latency, Quality, Stupidity,

Bar 1 ( L ) measures the time it takes for a packet of data to get from your PC to the server and back again.  Low is good.
Bar 2 ( Q ) measures packet loss. iir full bar = 0 packet loss which is obviously good. Lost packets cause warpy crashes.
Bar 3 ( S ) measures your performance. Low is good. Driving mistakes will push the meter up. Trying to win a forum  debate  against Hristo will  cause the bar to max out resulting in instant ejection from the server. We call that the H Factor.
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« Reply #59 on: June 05, 2013, 09:28:48 PM +0100 »

I have always assumed that it meant..

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....but i could be mistaken Tony  Roll Eyes
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