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October 15, 2013, 09:36:36 PM +0100 - Edmonton - UKGPL Season 25 (2013) Novices Trophy (65)
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Arf Arf Arf
 Team Baarf
BRM P261 (1965) F1 1965 3 +1.253
95.779mph
1 38:25.785
94.699mph
24 1:35.175
95.594mph
Dunlop  
IvanStanchev
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 1 1:33.738
97.060mph
2 +0.833
94.665mph
24 1:34.127
96.659mph
Dunlop  
Rainier
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 4 +1.455
95.576mph
3 +12.051
94.207mph
24 1:35.550
95.219mph
Goodyear  
Johnny.P
 Blue Moose Racing
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 2 +1.218
95.815mph
4 +16.601
94.022mph
24 1:35.128
95.641mph
Dunlop  
Walter Conn
 WSL Racing Team
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 5 +1.716
95.315mph
5 +38.278
93.153mph
24 1:35.363
95.406mph
Goodyear  
roguk
 Clark-Hill Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 6 +2.451
94.587mph
6 +42.437
92.988mph
24 1:36.178
94.597mph
Goodyear  
dave curtis
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 7 +3.071
93.981mph
7 +56.454
92.436mph
24 1:36.162
94.613mph
Goodyear  
Billy Nobrakes
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 10 +4.110
92.983mph
8 +1:15.033
91.715mph
24 1:37.477
93.337mph
Goodyear  
BadBlood
 Blue Moose Racing
Honda RA272 F1 1965 11 +4.639
92.483mph
9 +1:33.875
90.995mph
24 1:36.502
94.280mph
Goodyear  
happyal
 Clark-Hill Racing
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 8 +3.352
93.709mph
10 +1L
89.777mph
23 1:37.886
92.947mph
Dunlop  
Wiltshire Tony
 Toyland Racing
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 13 +5.904
91.309mph
11 +47.865
87.970mph
23 1:39.869
91.101mph
Dunlop  
Boggy
 
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 12 +5.809
91.396mph
12 +2L
84.470mph
22 1:39.712
91.245mph
Goodyear  
Nigel Smith
 Blue Moose Racing
BRM P261 (1965) F1 1965 9 +3.999
93.088mph
13 +7L
90.492mph
17 1:36.828
93.962mph
Disco
Dunlop  
SpecialKS
 TEAM-GTLDK
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 14 DNS ---
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Goodyear  
2 UKGPL_T7
 
BRM P261 (1965) F1 1965 14 15 ---
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Dunlop  

Moderator's Report

The first lap was nearly clean besides the little trouble in the last turn but nobody's fault.

SimRacing.org.uk Lap Records
Grand Prix Legends
F1 1965
1:33.738
97.060mph
IvanStanchev
Qualifying
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965)October 15, 2013, 09:36:36 PM +0100
S25Nov
Grand Prix Legends
F1 1965
1:34.127
96.659mph
IvanStanchev
Race
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965)October 15, 2013, 09:36:36 PM +0100
S25Nov
October 15, 2013, 09:36:36 PM +0100 - Edmonton - UKGPL Season 25 (2013) Intermediates Trophy (65)
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Arf Arf Arf
 Team Baarf
BRM P261 (1965) F1 1965 3 +1.253
95.779mph
1 38:25.785
94.699mph
24 1:35.175
95.594mph
Dunlop  
IvanStanchev
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 1 1:33.738
97.060mph
2 +0.833
94.665mph
24 1:34.127
96.659mph
Dunlop  
Rainier
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 4 +1.455
95.576mph
3 +12.051
94.207mph
24 1:35.550
95.219mph
Goodyear  
Johnny.P
 Blue Moose Racing
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 2 +1.218
95.815mph
4 +16.601
94.022mph
24 1:35.128
95.641mph
Dunlop  
roguk
 Clark-Hill Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 5 +2.451
94.587mph
5 +42.437
92.988mph
24 1:36.178
94.597mph
Goodyear  
BadBlood
 Blue Moose Racing
Honda RA272 F1 1965 6 +4.639
92.483mph
6 +1:33.875
90.995mph
24 1:36.502
94.280mph
Goodyear  
2 UKGPL_T7
 
BRM P261 (1965) F1 1965 7 7 DNS ---
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Dunlop  

Moderator's Report

The first lap was nearly clean besides the little trouble in the last turn but nobody's fault.


Server replay time: 0h23m35s

John P. uses the slipstream of David R. and makes a clean pass into T1 but is a little earlier on the brakes, so the cars are still side by side.
David should have known that John must be near on the right side, it is hard to decide if there isn't a little loss of grip after cutting the gras on the left, what makes him move to the right side.
The rules say:
In a corner, after a legitimate overtaking attempt the cars end up side by side. One driver looses control and strays from their side of the track. Contact is made. Warning for driver that moves over.

SimRacing.org.uk Lap Records
Grand Prix Legends
F1 1965
1:33.738
97.060mph
IvanStanchev
Qualifying
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965)October 15, 2013, 09:36:36 PM +0100
S25Int
Grand Prix Legends
F1 1965
1:34.127
96.659mph
IvanStanchev
Race
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965)October 15, 2013, 09:36:36 PM +0100
S25Int
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« on: October 13, 2013, 12:38:57 AM +0100 »

Season 25 Novices and Intermediates Trophy - Round 6 - Edmonton

Welcome to the second half of the championship in the 65's class of UKGPL. Edmonton. (and NOT Spa again as Walter pointed out - thanks Walt Wink). Edmonton, also known as Speedway Park opened a Can Am track in 1968. With the first 4 races being won by ’67 F1 world champion Denny Hulme. A tough track to master but some great opportunities for passing and close racing.

This round had been scheduled as Dundrod but that track has proved problematic so Edmonton steps up and Bathurst will host round seven.

NB. There is ONE grid for both the Novices and the Intermediates

The Novices and Intermediate Trophies will remain sharing a grid until further notice.

In view of the relatively small grids across two championships, handicapping makes little sense so all drivers have a FREE choice of car.

Race List = IGOR
Server = UKGPL3
IP address = ukgpl3.dyndns.org
Race date = 15-10-2013
Race Time = race starts at 21:30 UK time
Qualifying Time = Between 30 and 60 minutes, starting no later than 21:00 UK time
Track = Edmonton
Variant = 65F1 - the 2.02 Release of the 65mod should be used
Damage Model = INT
Race length = 40 minutes (laps 25)
Password: see above
Replays Available here

65 Patch: The 2.02 Release of the 65mod can and should be used. You need a working installation of the 65 mod to install the 2.02 Update. All the 65 Mod files can be found here

Driver lists can be found on the Novice and Intermediate championship standings pages.

The full time drivers can start to practice as soon as the server is available.  Reserve drivers can also join as soon as the server becomes available but must leave the server with 35 minutes of qualifying left, for a total of 5 minutes; this will allow any remaining full timers to join.  If there is enough space on the grid, the reserve drivers will be able to rejoin when there are 30 mins of qualifying left.  

Please restrict chat to pit messages including at the end of the race until ALL drivers still racing have crossed the line.

Intermediate drivers are limited to ONE reset. Novices have unlimited resets but EACH Shift-R MUST be followed within TWO laps by a Stop 'n' Go.

Moderating The red zone will be fully moderated for lap 1 only. For this event the red zone will be the whole of the first lap. Other moderation will be on reported incidents only.  However any incidents that occur in the red zone that are not reported by the drivers will be reported by the moderator.  This will allow all affected drivers the opportunity to present their case before the incident is moderated.  This should ensure there are no surprises when the moderator's report is published and hence appeals will be less likely.  If you haven't received a PM about an incident before the link below the results table is removed, you can be sure that you will not appear in the moderator's report.

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« Reply #1 on: October 13, 2013, 10:48:45 AM +0100 »


A special announcement to all qualified drivers, has been made here : http://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=11929.0
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« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2013, 01:56:41 PM +0100 »

I will do my best at this race, and I hope to have a good time even if I end up in the catch fencing a time or two. I want to "make the most of it" because there is a three week break after the Edmonton race.
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« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2013, 02:05:36 PM +0100 »

This is my first visit to Edmonton and already it is a favourite. I've tried several cars but found no consistancy with any, I'm still not sure which one to use- more practice needed.
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« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2013, 05:33:21 PM +0100 »

The laps is based on a leading time of 1:36-1:37 but that is looking optimistic at the mo.

I am getting solid 1:38s and 1:37s if I crash...

Not much data to go on so I might go 24 laps. Any strong views?
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« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2013, 06:27:25 PM +0100 »

I'm rubbish here and don't see me lasting the full distance whatever it is. Can't say it's a fav track of mine at the mo.
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« Reply #6 on: October 13, 2013, 11:11:37 PM +0100 »

The laps is based on a leading time of 1:36-1:37 but that is looking optimistic at the mo.

I am getting solid 1:38s and 1:37s if I crash...

Not much data to go on so I might go 24 laps. Any strong views?
After missing the start of the F2 race  I decided to sort out a set up for Edmonton. Lapping at a consistent 1.39 - 1.38 without hitting things.
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« Reply #7 on: October 14, 2013, 09:58:47 AM +0100 »

I'll set for 24 laps I think.

@Tony, not actually a favourite of mine either - it is quite technical and getting round without hitting things is a challenge. Setup to get the car rotating under brakes is a must here. Nice thing is that when you DO nail a corner, it is very satisfying.
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« Reply #8 on: October 14, 2013, 10:26:12 AM +0100 »

I hate this track, I can't get around without spinning Sad

I'll try my best but not expecting a decent result here, but I suppose you can't like all tracks can you?
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« Reply #9 on: October 14, 2013, 12:36:33 PM +0100 »

The challenging part for me are the two chicanes. They demand my full attention. I imagine a straight line going through the chicanes, and try to hit those Apexes. Good luck! WC
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« Reply #10 on: October 15, 2013, 10:05:18 PM +0100 »

Damn disconnect!!!!
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« Reply #11 on: October 15, 2013, 10:22:26 PM +0100 »

Well after my usual one or two laps of hopeless driving I eventually managed to get into the groove and found that this circuit did indeed grow on me. Nice one Paul.
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« Reply #12 on: October 15, 2013, 10:29:48 PM +0100 »

Well that was fun...intense concentration, but fun. Set a PB in qually, and still ended up 3rd...a second behind Ivan. Still the fastest lapper doesn't always win, and tonight was a perfect example of that. I managed it because I lapped more consistently than I think I have ever done before.

Off the line Ivan managed to miss the flag man. I'm afraid that's cos if you're on pole you have to look for him. I noticed that when practicing against the AI. That left JP and I fighting for T1. Whilst I won (with a slightly crazy line to ensure there was no contact), I lost it soon after because of a failed downshift (had a few of them tonight). Once Ivan had passed Dave R and caught us, that left me sandwiched between two guys that could lap quicker than I. JP was managing to eek out a small advantage as I mainly focussed on not cocking up any corners to let Ivan through. There was a bit of warp which made me scared to get too close to JP, as I'd worked out where he was vulnerable. However, as Ivan found against me, it is one thing catching on this track, and quite another to pass. In the end JP overcooked a corner and left myself and Ivan to battle it out. Can't imagine how the clearly quicker driver was feeling stuck behind me. Not sure what happened in the end, maybe a spin, but all of a sudden I was 6 secs clear.

With 6 laps to go I started having downshift issues into T2, so I just concentrated on smooth driving, and made the assumption that if Ivan did catch me he still wouldn't be able to pass. Slightly alarmed that he finished less than a second behind me, but that just shows how much quicker he was in clean air.....

So, a lucky one for me, given the start, but they all count!!

WD everyone

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« Reply #13 on: October 15, 2013, 10:57:02 PM +0100 »

Well, was pretty happy with the start & managed to gain a couple of places right away.  However, the top 4 were immediately edging away & Rog followed me around for a while.

Maybe he was just biding his time, waiting for me to make a big mistake - but seemed that he could not quite get close enough.  If so - great!  all I had to do was stay consistent & hope he'd not get any faster...  So a few laps later I made the big mistake & then my turn to follow for a while. 

More mistakes [including managing to grab neutral AGAIN for T2 which did not work out too well]  & then Walter arrived, passed, and soon up the road keeping Rog company.   

Up ahead, the Rog/Walter show was edging into view a couple of times;  but more mistakes dropped me back again.  Not that I'm suggesting I could have done anything but the plan was to just try to catch up first...

All in all, probably lucky to get out with 7th & a PB.

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« Reply #14 on: October 15, 2013, 11:02:43 PM +0100 »

Tough circuit. Awesome start, wheel on the grass. Blast!

Couldn't quite get a rhythm going but found Al bearing down on me and that made me concentrate which put me on Bill's tail. Pushed a bit hard and got beached so quick reset and pit stop later I set about chasing Al and Nigel. Nige had disappeared somewhere and Al had awesome Fezza drive off the corners but I was a teeny bit neater which put me behind. Took a lot of laps to catch him and I was planning to draft down the pit straight and out brake him into T1. Risky but possible. Al couldn't cope with the awesome pressure I was putting on <ahem> and had a small spin.

After that it was a case of waiting for the flag as Billy impolitely refused to make a mistake...

Some fun chases and although I haven't necessarily finished high enough up the order to be really competitive, I have had some fun chasing and being chased.

Roll on next year back in the Novs....

Next season it will be one championship with a light/heavy split.

Nice to see a decent turn out.

BTW Sorry to whoever I T-boned at the last corner, couldn't control the car well enough at that stage to miss you. Sorry again.
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