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« Reply #75 on: June 13, 2014, 11:44:54 AM +0100 »

...would you really want to win the championship by managing to be the only one to make it though Parabolica after a mass crash...
Plus, it negates penalties. If no points are scored, loss of a position (or two or three) is meaningless (as has happened several times this season).

Which is why I said we would also look at the penalty system - or did you miss that?
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« Reply #76 on: June 13, 2014, 11:50:37 AM +0100 »


here is one for you with too much time on your hands; would any champion from any series from any season been different if the 50% rule were applied?


Yes - take a look at the Novices trophy in Season 25.

Spa - Al gets 32 points from 3 completed laps out of 11. Without that Billy would have been champion. So, yes, it can make a difference.
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« Reply #77 on: June 13, 2014, 01:16:51 PM +0100 »

Spa - Al gets 32 points from 3 completed laps out of 11. Without that Billy would have been champion. So, yes, it can make a difference.

I really didn't want to know that!
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« Reply #78 on: June 13, 2014, 01:59:57 PM +0100 »

Thought you'd be pleased...
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« Reply #79 on: June 13, 2014, 05:28:25 PM +0100 »

Bring on the vote please so we can have the opportunity to get rid of this rule once and for all or know that we are to be saddled with it forever.

For the last time its a complete practice killer for me when it comes to preparing for races. Very little done this season......and it showed  laugh
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« Reply #80 on: June 14, 2014, 09:58:46 AM +0100 »

If the only way the 50% rule can work properly is to harshen up the penalties, can we do that instead of the 50% rule?
Would be nice to know the thoughts on how the penalties are going to be changed, before the vote.

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As for the Dutch,
Has anyone ever seen Robert Fleurke and Arjen Robbin in the same room at the same time. hmmmm.
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« Reply #81 on: June 14, 2014, 12:08:08 PM +0100 »

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Has anyone ever seen Robert Fleurke and Arjen Robbin in the same room at the same time. hmmmm.

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He grew up about 10km where I live, and started his career at the FC (Groningen). He might have a certain image, but actually he's a very down to earth and nice guy, and never forgets his roots! His style of football resembles that of mine (not the other way around, lol!). Used to be a fast paced left-footed winger with a striking shot, in my days! Maybe he watched me play/score in his younger days...  Cool
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« Reply #82 on: June 14, 2014, 12:21:07 PM +0100 »

Penalty points - I believe the recent trend  in Moderation is being too kind, with too few penalty points where needed.  If driving is generally good, this is nice.  Where driving is bad, a Moderator should fully apply the law.

The 50% rule attempts to make us drive slower.  I don't like driving slower.  Grandma would like us to drive slower.  This rule has made more unhappy drivers than happy ones.  And I seriously doubt it's given our overlords much freedom, from debris inspection duties. Angry Cheesy
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« Reply #83 on: June 15, 2014, 03:13:10 PM +0100 »

I agree with Cookie - I haven't seen much more caution until half way. And crashing early still limits how many points you can score - usually you'll be giving up a lot of points to the winner. 32 points for quarter distance.. just sounds to me like there weren't many people in the race - that's still a 4th place. I've done the various limping around to get to half way too.. most notably once looking at the leader lap count instead of my own, and stopping on the half distance lap before the line at Jops! It's funny to jump through a hoop, then miss the hoop entirely.. Sad

I agree that we really need to reward participation, as we aren't going to be getting many new drivers now and thus need to encourage regulars to keep coming back, to keep the championships healthy. It's admirable to try something new, to try to increase driving standards/competition for the championship, but we can probably achieve that via setup advice/sharing/close racing practice, without the added complication for the mods. Changing penalties and more things to fit, sounds like another complication to me. If we keep 50% as well, then is it worth changing the points system, from 50-down to something like the old F1 points systems? 10 down and no points below 6th..  Undecided (I'm waiting for someone to suggest Bernie's medal system  Grin)

On the F2s.. a good system will help.. I took the wrong car to one fun race, as I thought they were all the same except the slow one or two (and I forgot which they were  laugh).

PS. Did I get removed from the F2 Grid B Standings? My points in that championship have disappeared. It could be a mistake - the one I originally clicked to enter had been reshuffled into Grid A, but I was allocated to Grid B and thus was in both tables (but only racing/scoring in B) until recently. Also, now I notice that I am the Blue Moose representative in Grid B. The split adds the use of the team element, e.g. team drivers on both grids etc. which is another new aspect to the championship.
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« Reply #84 on: June 15, 2014, 06:22:47 PM +0100 »

We've decided to ban you for all current UKGPL leagues, Iesty, because you're too rusty.

And Jethro, shut up, don't tell me how to drive.
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« Reply #85 on: June 21, 2014, 01:59:20 PM +0100 »

I don't mind the 50% rule, especially since I like the way the old F1 points system was. I wouldn't mind seeing it go away if only the top 6 finishers scored points.
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« Reply #86 on: June 25, 2014, 01:23:01 PM +0100 »

what ever are the rules , I'm gonna race whith UKGPL for the next season ...... Kiss
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« Reply #87 on: June 25, 2014, 05:16:41 PM +0100 »

 . . . . . . . So we will discover if Magic rules. clown
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« Reply #88 on: June 25, 2014, 09:43:19 PM +0100 »

Me too, I'll try to catch as many races as my free time allows Smiley .

Another point, can we try some different tracks? It seems we mostly use the same tracks on line. It would be fun to try something different. VIR was fun Smiley . GPLBrazil are now running Punta Indio, could be interesting in 1965 and F2 cars Smiley . Or maybe Enna. I recently tried King Raceway for the first time, a real keeper! I haven't run Tandil yet but that seems like a real blast as well. Or perhaps an airfield track like Wigram Smiley . There are a couple of italian tracks that also look interesting, like Parco Sempione 1937. There are more than 500 tracks out there but we always seem to be stuck with the same pool of about 30 tracks Smiley . There are many tracks that were released before my time, at around 2003-2004, that never really had a chance to shine because it seemed like a new track would come out every day.

Just give the gpltd a run with a track list sorted by most fun, and pick a few tracks not run yet in GPL Smiley . I see Urbanya, Birmingham, Varosliget etc etc. So many track out there and we are stuck with Brands Hatch and Monza all the time Tongue .

Small warning, Polar Blue's tracks are very nice but rarely free from icy temperatures when running online Smiley .

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