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May 27, 2014, 09:35:27 PM +0100 - Albi (1959-80) - UKGPL Season 26 (2014) Amateurs Trophy
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
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Walter Conn
 WSL Racing Team
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 1 1:16.381
106.510mph
1 39:48.214
105.600mph
31 1:16.176
106.796mph
Dunlop  
Billy Nobrakes
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 2 +0.013
106.492mph
2 +15.566
104.916mph
31 1:16.507
106.334mph
Goodyear  
dave curtis
 Black Night Racing
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 3 +0.073
106.408mph
3 +16.509
104.875mph
31 1:15.923
107.152mph
Dunlop  
BadBlood
 Blue Moose Racing
Honda RA272 F1 1965 5 +0.138
106.318mph
4 +22.452
104.616mph
31 1:16.183
106.787mph
Goodyear  
roguk
 Clark-Hill Racing
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 6 +0.288
106.110mph
5 +36.531
104.009mph
31 1:16.954
105.717mph
Dunlop  
bernie
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 7 +1.133
104.953mph
6 +1L
100.368mph
30 1:17.239
105.327mph
Goodyear  
b_1_rd
 Clark-Hill Racing
BRM P261 (1965) F1 1965 8 +1.660
104.244mph
7 +20.816
99.516mph
30 1:16.451
106.412mph
Dunlop  
Johnny.P
 Blue Moose Racing
Cooper T77 (Climax) F1 1965 4 +0.114
106.351mph
8 +3L
104.113mph
28 1:16.477
106.376mph
Dunlop  
UKGPL 3
 
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Dunlop  

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« on: May 25, 2014, 07:57:00 PM +0100 »

Season 26 Amateurs Trophy - Round 9 - Albi

NOTE THE CHANGE OF SERVER

Welcome back to the Amateurs Trophy. For the Penultimate Round (and the last in Europe), we find ourselves at Albi in France.

Racing first started on the Circuit des Planques in 1933, the pits and startline being on a short straight before the road twisted down into St.Antoine. At St.Juery the cars had to contend with an extreme hairpin bend, followed by a railway level crossing. The 5.531 mile circuit was shortened in 1951 to 1.859 miles, before being closed in 1955 following the Le Mans disaster. Racing resumed at the nearby Aerodrome in 1959 which is the circuit we now know as Albi. The Chicane du Sequestre was introduced in 1988 but we will be using the original layout as raced in 1967.

Our race will be run under INT rules and only ONE reset is allowed. Entrants must complete 50% of the race distance to score. ANY Shift-R MUST be followed within TWO laps by a Stop 'n' Go.

All drivers have free choice of chassis although the faster drivers (you know who you are!) should avoid the BT11 and Lotus. There is currently no handicap for this series.

Race List = IGOR
Server = UKGPL3
IP address = ukgpl3.dyndns.org
Race date = 27-05-2013
Race Time = race starts at 21:30 UK time
Qualifying Time = Between 30 and 60 minutes, starting no later than 21:00 UK time
Track = Albi
Race length = 31 Laps
Variant = 65
Damage Model = INT
Race length = 40 minutes (laps 31)
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65 Patch: The 2.02 Release of the 65mod can and should be used. You need a working installation of the 65 mod to install the 2.02 Update. All the 65 Mod files can be found here

Replays Available here

Driver lists and rules can be found on the championship standings page

The full time drivers can start to practice as soon as the server is available.  Reserve drivers can also join as soon as the server becomes available but must leave the server with 35 minutes of qualifying left, for a total of 5 minutes; this will allow any remaining full timers to join.  If there is enough space on the grid, the reserve drivers will be able to rejoin when there are 30 mins of qualifying left. 

Please restrict chat to pit messages including at the end of the race until ALL drivers still racing have crossed the line.

Moderation: Full moderation of lap one red zone which is the FULL LAP.

Other moderation will be on reported incidents only.  However any incidents that occur in the red zone that are not reported by the drivers will be reported by the moderator.  This will allow all affected drivers the opportunity to present their case before the incident is moderated.  This should ensure there are no surprises when the moderator's report is published and hence appeals will be less likely.  If you haven't received a PM about an incident before the link below the results table is removed, you can be sure that you will not appear in the moderator's report.

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« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2014, 12:11:07 PM +0100 »

My steering wheel was making a distracting clicking sound as I went over the bumps in the Double Droite turns. I decided to change the force feedback settings to fix the problem. In GEM+, I press the "controls" button. Then I lowered Force Feedback Damping to 25, and I lowered Force Feedback Maximum force to 180. After making the change, I changed cars and closed GEM+ so that it would change the necessary files. Then I reopened GEM, and tested the new settings.  

I am sharing what I did in case it helps someone else, and so that I can get feedback from knowledgeable people who can help me. For instance, I made changes to both Damping and Maximum force at the same time. So I do not know which setting actually fixed the problem.  Cheesy

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« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2014, 01:15:44 PM +0100 »

Walter Shocked

have you ever tried the ffb2 patch of brr?
You will get it at SRMZ Wink

Quote from:  excerpt of the readme
This patch is intended to improve the GPL force feedback in terms of minimizing latency and removing everything but the direct feedback of forces from the physics engine. Those who prefer the ffb to have damping, centering, and other forces not derived from the car physics will find this patch less useful.

For best results, use with the 60fps patch which already reduces ffb latency and improves ffb accuracy by updating the forces more frequently.

Removing all damping makes forces more harsh, but at the same time more accurate. Your wheel may react very violently, so under any circumstances don't ignore the advice given in this README.


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« Reply #3 on: May 26, 2014, 02:22:03 PM +0100 »

No, I have been using the default settings. Thanks for the recommendation.

The read me says:

DISCLAIMER

Don't use the patch unless you carefully read the instructions below and fully understand them.
The patch may put more stress on your ffb wheel. Use at your own risk.

Cookie, I am trying to put less stress on my FFB wheel. Should I still try it?
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« Reply #4 on: May 26, 2014, 03:39:49 PM +0100 »

Cookie, I am trying to put less stress on my FFB wheel. Should I still try it?

Yes, of course just use a softer setting Wink

GEM+ settings:

force_feedback_damping = 0
force_feedback_latency = 0
max_steering_torque = 400 (I use 420 with G27!)

If you don't want it just uncheck ffb2 in GEM+ and set your defaults again.
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« Reply #5 on: May 26, 2014, 04:33:23 PM +0100 »

Thanks! I should be able to give it a try tomorrow.
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« Reply #6 on: May 26, 2014, 06:34:43 PM +0100 »

Don't know what they do,  or even what would be the ideal force-feedback, err, feedback.
But I seem to be using some settings found over at SimHQ quite some time ago.

Latency: 0.055
Damping: 240
Maximum force: 145

NOT using Ffb2

(With a G25)


Doesn't seem particularly strong, but I'd say this would be different if clamped to a lap tray / or if you drive from the sofa with wheel clamped to an ironing board...

Cheers,
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« Reply #7 on: May 27, 2014, 03:23:49 PM +0100 »

I've just registered, so providing I can get everything sorted and working for this evening, see you on the grid  Smiley
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« Reply #8 on: May 27, 2014, 07:53:24 PM +0100 »

Great.
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« Reply #9 on: May 27, 2014, 10:32:19 PM +0100 »

Enjoyable qualifying but disappointing race... well good while it lasted. I ran the wrong line into turn 1 with Dave unsighted on the inside and hit the barrier- after this the car would not slow down very well which saw me into the fences several times -once infront of BB. Retired disappointed. Congrats to Walter and the podium.. a good win and some great fun racing with Dave. See you next time.
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« Reply #10 on: May 27, 2014, 10:41:59 PM +0100 »

Good race. Made my customary slow start as Rog passed me for 5th but Honda power got me back past at Double Drat. Lap 2 I tried the same thing on Bill but as I slid wide I tagged him and he span into me. Glad I didn't ruin his race but it put me last. Pulled in Steve and Bernie and set about chasing Rog. Caught Rog just as he was lapping Bernie so Mr D gave me a bit of a drag and made loads of room for me. Thanks Bernie :thumbsup: Had a good battle with Rog for a few laps and thought I had him once or twice but finally got him on the back straight. That left me about 500 yards shy of the three way for second but I only caught Johnny after his troubles. Bad luck there Mr P.

Closed up on Dave and Bill but had left myself too much to do. I was pretty quick tonight but perhaps just not patient enough. Story of the season really. 6th in the table and that is probably about right.

Finally WELL DONE WALTER! First of many, I suspect. I also suspect that I will NEVER win a Novice's race...

Can't make Round 10 so thanks for all the racing and see you in Season 27.
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« Reply #11 on: May 27, 2014, 10:45:17 PM +0100 »

Congrats Walter, well deserved, good to see you take your first win in UKGPL! Also grats Billy and Dave Smiley
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« Reply #12 on: May 27, 2014, 11:14:56 PM +0100 »

Congrats to Walter and the podium.. a good win and some great fun racing with Dave. See you next time.

Thanks, Good race all! It was my first UKGPL win, and pretty much my first online win. So I am very happy! I spent a lot of time on the set-up this week. I was able to secure the pole position by .01 seconds. I had a good start. I could feel the pressure from the pursuing cars, but they lost time battling each other, and I was able to escape. I knew that I needed a sizable gap because I am bound to screw something up!  Cheesy  I did go off course once, but I was able to save it. Near the end of the race, I tried not to rev past the redline just in case.

I am glad to be a part of Amateurs Trophy this season.  There have been five different winners amongst the Amateurs this season. The competition seems evenly matched. I'm looking forward to next week!

- Walter

Also, I used the FFB2, and I will probably try increasing the max steering torque. Thanks Cookie!
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« Reply #13 on: May 28, 2014, 12:21:26 AM +0100 »

Congratulations Walter;   you just ran away with it tonight!

Well done to Billy too,   he just crept up on myself/JP when we had stopped for a picnic,  then just picked up the cake & ran off with it.

Unlucky JP,  but had certainly been entertaining until that pesky barrier jumped in front of you.

Of course, I'd like to think I'd have been good for a run at teamie Billy if I'd have got close enough again/if circumstances had been right - but this is all about the "ifs"! 

A couple of times I was searching for a gear (any gear!) at T1 which dropped me back each time.  Of course,  the extra 8laps of fuel may not have helped much either.  There again,  Billy looked to have pulled me along to FL,  so maybe can't really use that one Smiley

Was lucky to have secured 3rd on the grid & overall,  lucky to finish on the podium.  Blood sr was not over the finish line that much later.  Qually was close & so was the race - good going all!


Cheers,
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« Reply #14 on: May 28, 2014, 01:20:39 PM +0100 »

A couple of times I was searching for a gear (any gear!) at T1 which dropped me back each time. 
Cheers,
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Dave,
Are you using GPLShift with the clutch threshold setting at 50% so that you grind the gears when you don't press the clutch in far enough?  If so, I know that it adds to the difficulty. It is more real, but I decided to turn that option off when I joined UKGPL. I did not want to miss a downshift, and rear end someone.  Shocked

 
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