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Question: Do you want to enter the Season 32 Historic Trophy?
Yes, expect 75 % or more attendance - 14 (58.3%)
Yes, expect less than 75 % attendance - 10 (41.7%)
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« on: September 13, 2017, 08:26:57 PM +0100 »

Season 32 – Historic Trophy

Please check the Season 32 details regarding rules and the Historic Trophy pages in particular.

This season, races are to be run at 60fps – please use this patch 60fpsV2newmod. If you have issues read festers post.

Drivers must complete 50% of each race to score.

The races will be run as follows:

Car set: 1966 F1 only
Date: Every second Sunday from 24th Setember 2017
Time: No later then 9:00pm UK Time (30-60 mins practice, race starts at 9:30pm)
Race Length: 50 minutes
Damage Model:  Pro
Server: TBA
Race List: IGOR
Divisional Moderator: Phil Thornton

Calendar:
Date              Day          Time            Track   Folder  Laps   Download
24/09/2017Sunday21:00 GMTOsterreichring (Zeltweg '71)zeltw7125Link
08/10/2017Sunday21:00 GMTRouen          rouen23Papyrus Original
22/10/2017Sunday21:00 GMTRoad America Elkhart Lakeroadamer20Link
05/11/2017Sunday21:00 GMTSpa'67spa6713   Link
19/11/2017Sunday21:00 BSTZandvoortzandvoort32Papyrus Original
03/12/2017Sunday21:00 BSTAintreeaintree25Link
17/12/2017Sunday21:00 BSTMonzamonza30Papyrus Original
21/01/2018Sunday21:00 BSTReims 67reims22Link
04/02/2018Sunday21:00 BSTNürburgringnurburg6Papyrus Original
18/02/2018Sunday21:00 BSTSilverstonesilver31Papyrus Original

Handicapping
A token system will be used with the 1966 cars for the first time this season. The tokens system used with the 67F1 cars is actually a chassis levelling system, not a form of handicapping. So to introduce a form of  handicapping into the Historics, drivers who are classed as "Amateurs" will be given additional tokens.  This will take the form of 10 additional tokens at the start of the season.  However an "Amateur" driver who fails to start any of the first 5 races will only be eligible for an additional allocation of 5 tokens (rather than 10).  "Amateur" status will be declared by the divisional moderator at the start of the season.

There is no red zone for this championship. Drivers are reminded that Lap 1 incidents do carry an extra 1 place penalty.

Only reported incidents will be moderated.

If you would like to enter this series please submit an entry in the poll.
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« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2017, 08:33:56 AM +0100 »

I will enter all season less than 75 % because i will miss at least three races every season because of vacation
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« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2017, 11:43:51 PM +0100 »

yep Wink....I'm in  Kiss
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« Reply #3 on: September 17, 2017, 12:25:51 AM +0100 »

I have signed on for FT participation.  Smiley
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« Reply #4 on: September 17, 2017, 06:49:42 AM +0100 »

But with the new method ,mean that there are no races divided in 1500cc and 3000cc?In other word we can have race with mixed power?
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« Reply #5 on: September 17, 2017, 09:46:04 AM +0100 »

Correct Fran, that's how I read it as well.
Hopefully there won't be too many incidents between the different 'sized' cars, as this could be good fun Grin
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« Reply #6 on: September 17, 2017, 10:27:57 AM +0100 »

But with the new method ,mean that there are no races divided in 1500cc and 3000cc?In other word we can have race with mixed power?
Fran, Tim you are right.  Mixed power.  We have run the Historics with mixed power a few times in various races but only once over a season (as far as I can remember). It was Season 15.

The choice of chassis is very much down to the driver.  We have used the World Record times over the original papy tracks to grade the cars and allocate the tokens accordingly. So averaged lap times for a 2L and 3L chassis costing the same tokens will be the same over a typical season.  It will be down to driver choice if they want to spend the tokens on a 2L or 3L car at any specific track.  It should promote some interesting battles.

We are all experienced enough with these cars to recognise the difference in braking distance between the 2L and 3L chassis.  Hopefully there won't be an excessive number of rear-end incidents which I believe is why we split the 66s into 2L and 3L groups.
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« Reply #7 on: September 22, 2017, 06:48:24 PM +0100 »

I've just read thread, I hope it's not too late for registration
I voted full season if possible

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« Reply #8 on: September 22, 2017, 08:35:41 PM +0100 »

I've just read thread, I hope it's not too late for registration
I voted full season if possible
Not too late, you're in. Definitely a Pro standard driver Cheesy.  Welcome to Season 32!
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« Reply #9 on: September 22, 2017, 09:30:56 PM +0100 »

Just noticed the points cost for the Eagle T1F & T1G - are they the correct way around?
Pretty sure the 3l car is the faster one  Tongue
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« Reply #10 on: September 23, 2017, 12:20:17 AM +0100 »

Just noticed the points cost for the Eagle T1F & T1G - are they the correct way around?
Pretty sure the 3l car is the faster one  Tongue
You would think so wouldn't you. However:

I calculated the tokens using a spreadsheet using this approach (used this method for GTs and 55s too):

Collected all the world record times (well fastest actually because not all tracks have a verified WR time) for the original papyrus circuits (a typical season with a range of fast and slow tracks)
Calculated the average lap time for each circuit.
Calculated a normalised lap time for each chassis (i.e. a proportion of the average)
Identified the smallest and largest normalised lap time
Assumed a linear relationship between normalised lap times and token values in the range 0 to 20 - fastest cost 20 slowest is free (bit  of a simple assumption)
Calculated the number of tokens a chassis should cost at each circuit
Averaged the number of tokens for each chassis over a season
Rounded the average to the nearest whole number to get the final token values   

When you look at the WR times for the papy tracks you will see the T1F is faster at Mexico, Mosport, Nurburgring, Silverstone and Zandvoort. And by a sufficient amount to make the token value more expensive.  A bit of an unexpected result I admit.  But unless I've made a mistake in my calculations it is simply down to the current world record times being what they are.
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« Reply #11 on: September 23, 2017, 09:09:39 PM +0100 »

Forgot to mention, I checked the 67F1 cars using the same approach to see how the algorithm compared with the actual tokens we have been using with the 67s for years.  The results matched pretty well which suggests the spreadsheet isn't far off.
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« Reply #12 on: September 24, 2017, 03:32:01 AM +0100 »

Late entry, but voted in.
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« Reply #13 on: October 12, 2017, 05:49:33 AM +0100 »

Is it too late for me to jump into this series?

For years the 65's ran on the Tuesday night I was scheduled to work.. This series is running the Sunday of my weekend off!

Let me know, thanks.

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« Reply #14 on: October 12, 2017, 06:36:34 PM +0100 »

Mark, just vote to join in the poll.
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