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February 28, 2021, 11:12:57 PM +0000 - Monsanto Park - UKGPL Season 38 (Spring 2021) 1955 Grand Prix
Driver
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Giovanni Centorame
 
Connaught Type B (#1955) F1 1955 1 2:10.907
92.990mph
1 47:01.570
90.600mph
21 2:11.840
92.332mph
Pirelli  
philippe GIRARD
 Equipe BGB
Maserati 250F (#1955) F1 1955 6 +2.032
91.569mph
2 +1:01.021
88.682mph
21 2:14.584
90.450mph
Pirelli  
Rainier
 Equipe BGB
Ferrari 625 (#1955) F1 1955 9 +6.048
88.884mph
3 +1:53.557
87.095mph
21 2:16.507
89.175mph
Englebert  
Ricardo Valim da Silva
 
Connaught Type B (#1955) F1 1955 4 +0.979
92.300mph
4 (+1) +7L
89.746mph
14 2:12.771
91.685mph
Disco
Pirelli  
maddog
 Antipasti Racing
Lancia D50 (#1955) F1 1955 3 +0.748
92.462mph
5 +8L
88.717mph
13 2:12.165
92.105mph
Disco
Pirelli  
leomenegucci
 
Vanwall VW55 (#1955) F1 1955 2 +0.518
92.624mph
6 +9L
91.322mph
12 2:11.880
92.304mph
Disco
Pirelli  
covisi2016
 
Ferrari 555 SS (#1955) F1 1955 5 +1.433
91.983mph
7 +10L
89.477mph
11 2:12.481
91.885mph
Disco
Englebert  
francesco
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Ferrari 555 SS (#1955) F1 1955 7 +3.686
90.443mph
8 +18L
87.189mph
3 2:16.532
89.159mph
Disco
Englebert  
PaulV
 Blue Moose Racing
Maserati 250F (#1955) F1 1955 11 +1:06.666
61.613mph
9 +14.171
84.335mph
3 2:20.100
86.888mph
Disco
Pirelli  
Albert Hallu
 
Vanwall VW55 (#1955) F1 1955 10 +8.851
87.101mph
10 +15.126
84.150mph
3 2:18.628
87.811mph
Disco
Pirelli  
bernie
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Maserati 250F (#1955) F1 1955 8 +4.864
89.659mph
11 +19L
85.677mph
2 2:18.377
87.970mph
Disco
Pirelli  
60fps UKGPL04
 
Mercedes W196 SL (#1955) F1 1955 12 DNS ---
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Continental  

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Summary
A tremendous result for Giovanni Centorame in his first ever on-line race. Pole position, fastest lap and the win. It doesn’t get better than that. However, it wasn’t as easy as it seemed, he was pushed very hard by Leo Menegucci in the first half of the race until Leo crashed out whilst leading at Windmill Bend on lap thirteen. Leo’s engine expired as he tried to extricate himself from the straw bales. A spirited drive by Martin was ended a few minutes later by a blown engine and a strong challenge from Ricardo ended in the trees before Estrada do Alvito on lap fifteen. This allowed Philippe Girard and David Rainier to grab the final podium places.


Server replay time: 0h07m05s

Lap 3 - Riding School – Bernie Darwin and Ricardo Valim da Silva
Bernie is leading Ricardo into Riding School. Bernie is on the racing line and turns in towards the apex and Ricardo tries the tighter inside line. Contact is made. Ricardo can continue but Bernie is upended and is out of the race.

Bernie did nothing wrong.

Ricardo tried a speculative move up the inside but he didn’t have 50% overlap at turn-in so he must assume responsibility for the contact. It is very difficult to back out of a move in these cars so drivers must be absolutely sure a viable overtaking attempt is on before any move is tried. Clearly Ricardo was evaluating his options when he closed in on Bernie on previous occasions having dropped to the back of the field after qualifying in fourth place. It is not easy overtaking safely in these cars even if the following driver has a significant speed advantage, extreme care is required.

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« on: February 25, 2021, 08:31:52 PM +0000 »

Season 38 – 1955 Grand Prix – Round 4 – Privateers - Monsanto Park

This race announcement is for the PRIVATEERS.

The fourth race in the 1955 Grand Prix series finds us in Portugal. The street circuit of Monsanto Park to be precise. Built on parkland, the circuit was considered difficult to drive because it crossed so many different types of surfaces, including tramlines at one point. The track hosted numerous races from 1954 to 1959, but only one race qualified as a Formula One event: the 1959 Portuguese Grand Prix, won by Stirling Moss. He won the race in the twilight hours, since the race was purposefully started late in the day to avoid the intense late summer sun.

Race list = iGOR
Server = UKGPL04_60fps
IP address Server = 86.6.125.152:32766
Password = see above
GPL Mod = 55
60fps Patch = 60fpsV2newmod
Track download = link
Track directory = monsanto
Qualifying starts = 20:45 UK time - 45 minutes
Race starts = ~ 21:30 UK time
Race length = 21 laps
Replay = here

Please restrict chat to emergency messages only including at the end of the race until ALL drivers still racing have crossed the line.

Driver lists and division specific rules can be found on the championship standings page.

Available Tokens:
Note: These are the tokens available to each driver before the 10 tokens are added for making the race start.

Driver        Tokens  Status
Albert Hallu
20
Privateer
bernie
40
Privateer
covisi2016
40
Privateer
dave curtis
28
Privateer
francesco
20
Privateer
Giovanni Centorame
20
Privateer
leomenegucci
18
Privateer
maddog
18
Privateer
PaulV
30
Privateer
philippe GIRARD
14
Privateer
Rainier
20
Privateer
Ricardo Valim da Silva
15
Privateer
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« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2021, 09:47:41 PM +0000 »


another ruined race.

Im getting a little fed up of people treating the first lap or two like a Kamikazi attack.   Im not one to complain usually, but this is becoming a bloody nuisance.

its not as if Im a problem as Im usually at the back anyway. Im hardly likely to win. But would at least like a few laps to enjoy GPL

Paul V.

Im not going to say too much because Im bloody Pi**ed off.
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« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2021, 10:23:28 PM +0000 »


another ruined race.

Im getting a little fed up of people treating the first lap or two like a Kamikazi attack.   Im not one to complain usually, but this is becoming a bloody nuisance.

its not as if Im a problem as Im usually at the back anyway. Im hardly likely to win. But would at least like a few laps to enjoy GPL

Paul V.

Im not going to say too much because Im bloody Pi**ed off.

Paul , I know exactly how you feel , I got as far as Lap3 this time before being attacked by a stupid overtake attempt which ended my race AGAIN  Sad 

Not happy  Angry Angry Angry
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« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2021, 10:27:42 PM +0000 »

Get the reports in boys. 
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« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2021, 10:46:30 PM +0000 »

It's my first race ever in a league and really i didn't expect to win, fantastic race and only 3 at the end ! I Started in pole, Hunt's Lancia overtook me on first lap but spun after few corners, so i took the lead but then Leo overtook me on the straight. Beautiful race with Leo, 10 laps 1 sec behind him with his Vanwall impossible to catch on the straight, side by side at first corner without touching each other ,no dangerous manouvers or blocking from Leo; all i could do was wait for an error. It was dissapointing when i saw him spun adn retire. I took the lead with 25 sec of advantage from Ricardo silva, and then was a carnage, only 3 cars at the finish line, don't know if because connection problems or errors...Thak you all guys, can't wait for next race in tripoli.
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« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2021, 10:48:53 PM +0000 »

Submit incident reports gents and the mod team will have a look.

Thank you for your patience Paul, I know how frustrating it is not to finish the race but you are quite right to give yourself time to compose yourself and to resist the temptation to vent your anger on the forums. Rest assured any incident report will be properly assessed.
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« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2021, 10:52:55 PM +0000 »

Sorry all, but its not worth the practice or the time.

I have just deregistered from the 55s, the GTs and the 67s.

I would also stop running the Can Am cars if they were a current series. Just too much trouble at most races.

I love GPL and UKGL,  but I don't really drive the cars at high enough levels to be competitive so there really isn't any point.
 
I intend to carry on in the Open Wheel series for now and the 65s where the racing is close and fun. The cars being able to be driven closely and within all the driver's capabilities.

I shall be back next season when I've practiced enough to be more than a consistent back marker.

Cheers Paul.
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« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2021, 10:55:03 PM +0000 »

It's my first race ever in a league and really i didn't expect to win.....
Congratulations Giovanni. I was impressed with your driving when you were on the practice server yesterday, for someone who has not raced in a league before your awareness of the cars around you was excellent. That is the key to racing fairly on-line. Knowing where the other drivers are and not taking unnecessary risks is paramount.

I have no doubt you will progress to the Works very soon. Enjoy the victory, you have a 100% record.
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« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2021, 11:00:48 PM +0000 »

Sorry Phil... but typed my reply before your message, but do feel as I have said. I Should have sent it quicker.. lol.

It seems a shame that these problems can only be resolved after the event and by the moderators.

Although you guys do a brilliant job, it's not fair on you.

So many of these issues could be avoided. We all know a race can't be won on the first lap.

We can't even get any championship points without do 50% of the race.

We don't need moderation after the event we need to think about how we race online before we even join the server.
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« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2021, 11:09:19 PM +0000 »

I have just deregistered from the 55s, the GTs and the 67s.
Sorry to hear that Paul, but focussing on the MixedOW and 65s might be a good idea. The 55s, GTs and 67 are all tough cars which all require different driving techniques. Not an easy combination when you are trying to improve your technique.

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I shall be back next season when I've practiced enough to be more than a consistent back marker.
Practice does help but it is also important to understand what other drivers do differently. After several years of stagnation I've managed to make some big improvements recently which is down to understanding why other drivers were faster than me. Hopefully you can do the same. I'll try to summarise what I have done and send you a PM.
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« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2021, 11:20:14 PM +0000 »

I have just deregistered from the 55s, the GTs and the 67s.
Sorry to hear that Paul, but focussing on the MixedOW and 65s might be a good idea. The 55s, GTs and 67 are all tough cars which all require different driving techniques. Not an easy combination when you are trying to improve your technique.

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Practice does help but it is also important to understand what other drivers do differently. After several years of stagnation I've managed to make some big improvements recently which is down to understanding why other drivers were faster than me. Hopefully you can do the same. I'll try to summarise what I have done and send you a PM.

Thanks Phil.  Would be extremely interesting.  Look forward to your PM.
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« Reply #11 on: March 01, 2021, 09:20:55 AM +0000 »

I'll try to summarise what I have done and send you a PM.

I would be interested too by this PM  Smiley  !!

I would be very sad if Paul leave these series, I am always confident when I am followed by him during the race. There are not so many drivers like him.

I had a look to the replay of his accident at Monsanto...
Maybe we should add new rules and penalties about drivers reversing back on the track after a spin, without taking care of others.   


I also read some comments on Monsanto Works topic, and driver(s) writing they will leave this series...
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« Reply #12 on: March 01, 2021, 09:53:39 AM +0000 »




I had a look to the replay of his accident at Monsanto...
Maybe we should add new rules and penalties about drivers reversing back on the track after a spin, without taking care of others.   


I think that is covered by the "Bad Rejoin" rules.
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« Reply #13 on: March 01, 2021, 11:06:58 AM +0000 »

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I had a look to the replay of his accident at Monsanto...
Maybe we should add new rules and penalties about drivers reversing back on the track after a spin, without taking care of others.  

I know you don't like me, but it seems excessive to create rules for me. Remember that you made a bad rejoin towards me too, but you didn't ask for special rules.

P. S:if possible i wolud like to receive the PM of Phil.
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« Reply #14 on: March 01, 2021, 11:36:11 AM +0000 »

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I had a look to the replay of his accident at Monsanto...
Maybe we should add new rules and penalties about drivers reversing back on the track after a spin, without taking care of others.   

I know you don't like me, but it seems excessive to create rules for me. Remember that you made a bad rejoin towards me too, but you didn't ask for special rules.

Please stop with your personal accusation.
It becomes ridiculous.
From my side, there is nothing personal.

I was undirectly victim of the same kind of accident in Monza 67 (that was not with you !!!) and I reported an incident with a type "bad rejoin"
The answer was "Wasn't a rejoin given the strict interpretation of the definition (didn't have 3 or 4 wheels off the track so may need to revise this definition?)" 

I agreed with this answer and that was the only reason I wrote we need specific rules for reversing back.

I have nothing against one particular driver or anyone else.
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