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March 05, 2021, 10:06:17 PM +0000 - Monza (GP 1955-71) - UKGPL Season 38 (Spring 2021) 1967 F1 Grand Prix
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Raoni Frizzo
 Team Coyote
Ferrari 312 (1967) (#1967) F1 1967 1 1:29.027
144.446mph
1 1:24:42.960
141.677mph
56 1:29.280
144.036mph
Firestone  
Lasse Albrecht
 
Brabham BT24 (Repco) (#1967) F1 1967 14 2 +0.807
141.654mph
56 1:29.103
144.323mph
Goodyear  
Alain Maurice
 Equipe BGB
Ferrari 312 (1967) (#1967) F1 1967 3 +0.199
144.124mph
3 +43.422
140.476mph
56 1:30.006
142.875mph
Firestone  
EvilClive
 Blue Moose Racing
Brabham BT24 (Repco) (#1967) F1 1967 7 +2.232
140.913mph
4 +1L
138.932mph
55 1:29.971
142.930mph
Goodyear  
fpolicardi
 Team7
Cooper T81b (Maserati) (#1967) F1 1967 9 +2.316
140.783mph
5 +25.887
138.229mph
55 1:31.719
140.206mph
Firestone  
Rainier
 Equipe BGB
Ferrari 312 (1967) (#1967) F1 1967 11 +4.472
137.537mph
6 +3L
133.955mph
53 1:33.208
137.966mph
Firestone  
Billy Nobrakes
 Black Night Racing
Eagle T1G (Weslake 1967) (#1967) F1 1967 10 +3.421
139.101mph
7 +25L
129.099mph
31 1:32.174
139.514mph
Disco
Goodyear  
Eric Bilodeau
 Equipe BGB
Brabham BT24 (Repco) (#1967) F1 1967 8 +2.271
140.853mph
8 +28L
131.550mph
28 1:32.473
139.063mph
Disco
Goodyear  
philippe GIRARD
 Equipe BGB
Eagle T1G (Weslake 1967) (#1967) F1 1967 4 +0.259
144.027mph
9 +41L
137.758mph
15 1:30.947
141.396mph
Disco
Goodyear  
Enrique Farina
 
Brabham BT24 (Repco) (#1967) F1 1967 12 +5.900
135.468mph
10 (+1) +0.212
137.737mph
15 1:30.774
141.666mph
Disco
Goodyear  
Frank Verplanken
 Equipe BGB
Cooper T81b (Maserati) (#1967) F1 1967 6 +1.950
141.350mph
11 +45L
135.700mph
11 1:32.968
138.323mph
Disco
Firestone  
Cookie
 Antipasti Racing
Eagle T1G (Weslake 1967) (#1967) F1 1967 2 +0.120
144.251mph
12 +51L
138.992mph
5 1:30.673
141.824mph
Disco
Goodyear  
Claudio Navonne
 
Honda RA300 (#1967) F1 1967 5 +1.294
142.376mph
13 +56L
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Disco
Firestone  
60fps UKGPL8
 
BRM P115 (#1967) F1 1967 13 DNS ---
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Goodyear  
Eric Bilodeau
 Equipe BGB
BRM P115 (#1967) F1 1967 ---
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Goodyear  

Moderator's Report

Both drivers in this incident have proven themselves to be responsible and fair drivers in the past and it was unfortunate for both of them that a small contact ( at high speed ) ended both of their races.
Enrique has been chasing Philippe for several laps and slowly closing in, but the straight line speed of Philippe's Eagle keeps him ahead. At the end of lap 15 Enrique gets a much better drive through Parabolica and exits the corner firmly in the Eagle's slipstream.
On the approach to Curve Grande Philippe is showing 192mph (309kph) and Enrique has reached the same speed with the tow ( previous lap he was at 188mph (302kph).
Enrique sees the opportunity to take the inside line and moves out of the slipstream as they enter the braking zone. Both cars brake at almost the identical moment, but because Enrique is 1.5 car lengths further back, he is able to be less aggressive on the brakes and his momentum brings him almost alongside Philippe as they both prepare to enter the corner.
Enrique's move out of the slipstream and down the inside is clearly visible in Philippe's mirrors, but the Brabham does move into the Philippe's blind spot.
Enrique can clearly see the Eagle and the inviting gap down the inside to the apex of Curve Grande.
Enrique naturally wants to give himself as wide a line as possible into Curve Grande and Philippe is fully committed to his normal racing line ( travelling at the same speed as previous laps ). The cars touch and Philippe is thrown into the barriers ending his race, Enrique finishes the lap but retires to the pits.

Close inspection of the server replay shows that Philippe took his normal speed and line into the corner and stays to his side of the central line. Enrique was travelling slightly faster than usual due to the slipstream and on a slightly tighter line, but there were no indications that he was travelling too fast to safely negotiate Curve Grande.

Philippe did not adjust his line to leave extra room for the Brabham which he knew was on his inside, but he was still within his 50% of the track width at the moment of contact.
When Enrique committed to his overtaking move the Eagle was travelling in a straight line and he left less than a 1 metre gap between the cars. But, he should have made sure that he was within his 50% of the track width.
At the moment of contact Enrique had not achieved a clear 100% overlap and his car was not visible in Philippe's mirror.
This incident could have been avoided if ...
a) Philippe had made an allowance for the car that had moved into his blind spot and was making an overtaking move, but he was quite entitled to maintain his line and speed on his side of the track
b) Enrique had moved more to his right and kept his car well within his side of the track which would have left more space between the cars.
It is quite common for 2 cars to negotiate Curve Grande side by side if the drivers are careful.

UKGPL rules make it clear that it is the responsibility of the OVERTAKING car to ensure a safe and clean pass and that the right to the racing line through the corner can only be claimed when a clear 100% overlap has been achieved.

Therefore in this case a penalty of 1 place is given to Enrique.

It was regrettable that comments were exchanged on the forum immediately after the incident when emotions are high. The court system exists to deal with incidents such as this and avoid heated arguments. We all race GPL for fun and we all understand how frustrating it is to not finish a race for whatever reason. Philippe has always driven fairly and with consideration and I hope that Enrique re-considers his decision to quit all UKGPL races ( except the 1955 series) as he has shown himself to be a gentleman driver.

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« on: March 01, 2021, 09:17:30 PM +0000 »

For the 4th round we are going to Italy … andiamo in Italia a Monza !
We will use the "new" Monza 1967 track made by Ginetto.
INFO:
This track replaces the original version using a more accurate layout and a better set of textures and objects.



Race list= iGOR
Server= UKGPL_8_60fps
IP address= 92.116.177.39
Date= 05-03-2021
Password= see above
GPL Mod= 67
60fps Patch= 60fpsV2newmod
Track directory= http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=13537
Damage= PRO
Qualifying starts= between 20:30  until 21:00
Race starts= 21:00
Race length= 56 laps -  race length approx 90mins
Replay= https://www.sendspace.com/file/nw5pfs


Please restrict chat to emergency messages only including at the end of the race until ALL drivers still racing have crossed the line.

Driver lists and division specific rules can be found on the Season 38 pages   https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=1332&theme=6

During qualifying drivers are expected to drive back to the pits after each qualifying run. It is not permissible to return to the pits using the "Esc" key. If a driver crashes his car in qualifying and cannot return to the pits safely under his own power, he must not participate in the remaining qualifying period. The driver will be allocated the grid slot achieved at that point.


Each driver may use 2 cars through the season.
Works drivers cannot use the Lotus or Eagle.
Each car must be used a for maximum of 5 races.

Please check your car choices here:-

   67 Grand Prix Works/Priv allocation and car selection

Lasse Albrecht          WORKS                 Brabham, Cooper
Markus Friedrich       WORKS                  Ferrari, Cooper  
Fulvio Policardi         WORKS                   Ferrari, ?
GregT                      WORKS                      ?, Cooper                                
Evilclive                   WORKS                   Brabham, BRM
Uli                           WORKS                   Brabham, Honda
Alain Maurice            WORKS                   Ferrari, Cooper
Enrique Farina           WORKS                   Cooper, Brabham
Raoni Frizzo              WORKS                   Ferrari, Cooper
Claudio Navonne       WORKS                   Brabham, Honda
David Rainier             WORKS                  Ferrari, Cooper
Frank Verplanken       WORKS                   Ferrari, Cooper
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Phillipe Girard         PRIV                              Eagle, Cooper
Cookie                      PRIV                           Cooper, Eagle      
Eric Bilodeau             PRIV                           Brabham,??
Billy Nobrakes           PRIV                           Eagle,Cooper

Drivers are reminded that Lap 1 incidents do carry an extra 1 place penalty.

Only reported incidents will be moderated.

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« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2021, 08:49:54 PM +0000 »

Clive,

For the drivers, don't forget Frank Verplanken   Wink
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« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2021, 08:56:06 PM +0000 »

Clive, have you seen my avatar?  That's my other car
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« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2021, 02:48:56 PM +0000 »

Clive,

For the drivers, don't forget Frank Verplanken   Wink


Ho nonnnnnnnnnnnn, not him    Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2021, 02:58:26 PM +0000 »

I do not know Frank, so should we consider him to be Works or Privateer?
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« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2021, 04:48:55 PM +0000 »

I do not know Frank, so should we consider him to be Works or Privateer?

Works !!!!
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« Reply #6 on: March 04, 2021, 05:24:39 PM +0000 »

I do not know Frank, so should we consider him to be Works or Privateer?

Works !!!!

lolol  that sounds like a very sure assessment David, so I will put Frank in WORKS and watch his tailpipes.
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« Reply #7 on: March 04, 2021, 06:42:54 PM +0000 »

I can help restore equilibrium. Can you add me top the Privateers list.
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« Reply #8 on: March 04, 2021, 07:15:40 PM +0000 »

Which cars are you thinking of using Bill?  Honda and BRM perhaps??? Roll Eyes
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« Reply #9 on: March 04, 2021, 08:56:29 PM +0000 »

Which cars are you thinking of using Bill?  Honda and BRM perhaps??? Roll Eyes
Of course - except my mechanics have given them a new paint job so the Honda looks more like an Eagle & the BRM very closely resembles to Cooper.
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« Reply #10 on: March 05, 2021, 07:32:55 AM +0000 »

Clive,

For the drivers, don't forget Frank Verplanken   Wink


Ho nonnnnnnnnnnnn, not him    Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

The traditional gallic welcome  laugh Grin ! I feel at home already !

I do not know Frank, so should we consider him to be Works or Privateer?

Works !!!!

lolol  that sounds like a very sure assessment David, so I will put Frank in WORKS and watch his tailpipes.

Well I was -50 once, but I have not raced GPL in 6 years with only a handful of rf2 races one year ago between that. But absent a "RUSTY" class, I guess I'm WORKS lol. I'm only in it for the GPL miles and the chequered thing at the end anyways, any of the Magnificent Seven will do Wink.

Love your GP format, looking forward to racing with you guys !
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« Reply #11 on: March 05, 2021, 07:29:17 PM +0000 »

Race server is up test it please

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« Reply #12 on: March 05, 2021, 08:17:19 PM +0000 »

Can I bother you for a password, please ? I know it must be somewhere out there, but can't seem to find it, sorry  wacko
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« Reply #13 on: March 05, 2021, 08:23:13 PM +0000 »

Can I bother you for a password, please ? I know it must be somewhere out there, but can't seem to find it, sorry  wacko

Nevermind me, got it lol. I swear I'm not so thick usually.
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« Reply #14 on: March 05, 2021, 09:18:35 PM +0000 »

OMG  - had made a last second click - and my front became too twitchy...

6 laps a lead... CG out - thx god Raoni could move on Wink
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