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September 10, 2021, 10:36:18 PM +0100 - Daytona (Road) - UKGPL Season 39 (Autumn 2021) 1971 Can-Am
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
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GrandPrixYannick
 
McLaren M8B/C/E (#1971) Group 7 2 +0.040
138.667mph
1 43:41.380
136.022mph
26 1:38.877
138.698mph
Goodyear  
Cookie
 Antipasti Racing
Shadow MKll (#1971) Group 7 3 +0.539
137.971mph
2 +32.933
134.334mph
26 1:39.671
137.593mph
Goodyear  
Pete Bennett
 TeamTobo
Shadow MKll (#1971) Group 7 4 +1.195
137.066mph
3 +38.193
134.069mph
26 1:40.786
136.071mph
Goodyear  
Enrique Farina
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Lola T222 (#1971) Group 7 6 +1.376
136.819mph
4 +39.782
133.988mph
26 1:40.393
136.604mph
Goodyear  
Alain Maurice
 Equipe BGB
McLaren M8B/C/E (#1971) Group 7 5 +1.256
136.983mph
5 +40.754
133.940mph
26 1:39.807
137.406mph
Goodyear  
Phil Thornton
 Antipasti Racing
McLaren M8D (#1971) Group 7 10 +2.129
135.799mph
6 +58.319
133.062mph
26 1:40.666
136.233mph
Goodyear  
MagicArsouille
 Equipe BGB
McLaren M8B/C/E (#1971) Group 7 1 1:38.859
138.723mph
7 +1:02.126
132.873mph
26 1:38.619
139.061mph
Goodyear  
Ziu Bacubacu
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Porsche 917/10 (#1971) Group 7 9 +1.880
136.134mph
8 +1:11.328
132.419mph
26 1:41.755
134.775mph
Dunlop  
Christian Dauger
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Lola T260 (#1971) Group 7 7 +1.778
136.272mph
9 +1:16.674
132.156mph
26 1:40.511
136.443mph
Goodyear  
EvilClive
 Blue Moose Racing
Lola T222 (#1971) Group 7 8 +1.840
136.188mph
10 +1:26.800
131.662mph
26 1:40.506
136.450mph
Goodyear  
Doni Yourth
 Blue Moose Racing
Porsche 917/10 (#1971) Group 7 11 +4.262
132.990mph
11 +1L
130.044mph
25 1:42.485
133.815mph
Dunlop  
fpolicardi
 Team7
Ferrari 712M (#1971) Group 7 14 +5.482
131.435mph
12 +4.934
129.801mph
25 1:42.484
133.816mph
Firestone  
Eric Bilodeau
 Equipe BGB
Porsche 917/10 (#1971) Group 7 13 +5.202
131.788mph
13 +16.696
129.226mph
25 1:44.021
131.839mph
Dunlop  
PaulV
 Blue Moose Racing
Porsche 917/10 (#1971) Group 7 15 +26.607
109.305mph
14 +1:09.227
126.717mph
25 1:44.481
131.259mph
Dunlop  
philippe GIRARD
 Equipe BGB
Porsche 917/10 (#1971) Group 7 12 +4.777
132.329mph
15 +17L
125.647mph
9 1:44.786
130.877mph
Disco
Dunlop  
60fps UKGPL8
 
McLaren M8D (#1971) Group 7 16 DNS ---
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Goodyear  
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Group 7
1:38.859
138.723mph
MagicArsouille
Qualifying
McLaren M8B/C/ESeptember 10, 2021, 10:36:18 PM +0100
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Group 7
1:38.619
139.061mph
MagicArsouille
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McLaren M8B/C/ESeptember 10, 2021, 10:36:18 PM +0100
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« on: September 05, 2021, 03:11:14 PM +0100 »

Season 39 - CANM71 – Round 1 –  Daytona Road Circuit

Something a bit different for the first Round, the Daytona International Speedway at Daytona Beach, Florida. The venue is famous for the oval used for the prestigious Daytona 500 NASCAR race. We will use the sports car course which combines high speed oval racing with big 180 degree turns often seen on US tracks.
Remember the start is not the finish line - your lap counts when you are just leaving the oval part of the track.
Look for Front Stretch Wink


Please check the Season 39 pages for details regarding rules and the CanAm 1971 pages in particular.

Handicapping
The cars will be divided into five groups, each group containing cars of similar performance.
Drivers will be graded as either "Professional", "Intermediate" or "Amateur".
Drivers will be limited to cars from specific groups based on their grade
and must choose 2 cars and drive them an equal number of times.


Rolling Start!


In RL CanAm started rolling Wink
We do a rolling start to the exit of T1 in one line following the polesetter ~100mph


Incidents will not be moderated as we race as gentlemen.
One Shift-R is allowed with no need to make Stop & Go.

Race list = iGOR
Server = UKGPL_8
IP address Server = TBA
Password = see above
GPL Mod = CANM71
Damage model = Intermediate
60fps Patch = 60fpsV2newmod
Track directory = dayto24h
Qualifying starts = 20:45 UK time - 45 minutes
Race starts = ~ 21:30 UK time
Race length = 26 laps
Replay = here


Drivers will be graded as either "Professional", "Intermediate" or "Amateur".

Please tell me your second car choice before the next race Wink

pro   Alain Maurice (FT)
am   Christian Dauger (FT)                                    
int   Claudio Navonne (FT)                                    
int   Cookie (FT)                                    
int   Doni Yourth (FT)                                    
int   Eric Bilodeau (FT)                                    
pro   EvilClive (FT)                                    
int   fpolicardi (FT)                                    
pro   GrandPrixYannick (FT)                                    
pro   MagicArsouille (FT)                                    
am   PaulV (FT)                                    
int   Pete Bennett (FT)                                    
int   Philippe Girard (FT)                                    
pro   Ziu Bacubacu (FT)                                    
int   Gareth (R1)    
pro    Enrique Farina (R1)                                
pro   Leo Menegucci (R1)                                    
int   Phil Thornton (R1)


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« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2021, 06:05:59 PM +0100 »

I'm sorry Cookie, I have remove my vote, for exit to this serie, because I cannot drive this car.  Smiley
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« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2021, 11:14:40 PM +0100 »

I'm sorry Cookie, I have remove my vote, for exit to this serie, because I cannot drive this car.  Smiley

Why Huh

You can drive all cars but the 2 supercars, a Porsche e.g. is very smooth to drive.
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« Reply #3 on: September 09, 2021, 11:05:12 AM +0100 »

These cars are new to me as well. I tend to drive them like the 55s... smoothly and gently on the gas. Please join us as you're not alone in finding them a challenge.
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« Reply #4 on: September 09, 2021, 12:55:33 PM +0100 »

These cars are new to me as well. I tend to drive them like the 55s... smoothly and gently on the gas. Please join us as you're not alone in finding them a challenge.

I agree that these cars are a challenge Phillipe. Probably the most powerful cars that we have in GPL.
Just as in real life they have far more power than the tyres can hope to contain ( except the Porsche, but even that car is powerful ).

 The biggest problem with the default settings that I get is snap oversteer out of corners, so either try a higher gear  ( maybe 2nd instead of 1st? ) or change your gearbox ratios so that it limits the sudden surge of power. Braking early is to be recommended, as the speed of these monsters is deceptive and running too deep and wide is easy.

 These cars have enormous torque and avoiding wheelspin out of slow corners is the secret, just as was required in real life. Once the car is straightened up you can pour in the gas and hold on tight, because the horizon will be pulled towards you very quickly  Shocked.

PS.
I will be testing the Porsche later and if I can build a safe setup, I am happy to share it with anyone who is struggling. I also have an old setup for the Ferrari which is good for 1:42 lap? with some work it might be a little faster? and I am also going to test the Lola 222.

I am limited to the 3 slower groups and presumably the less powerful cars, but there is not that much difference? But, as Axel suggests, maybe select a car with less torque that is comfortable to drive? because for sure there will be many retirements with bent cars and simply finishing will be a success.
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« Reply #5 on: September 09, 2021, 01:59:19 PM +0100 »

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« Reply #6 on: September 09, 2021, 02:44:48 PM +0100 »

I start it now
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« Reply #7 on: September 09, 2021, 02:51:28 PM +0100 »

ok, i was dreading a problem, as i couldn't see anything ... Wink Smiley
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« Reply #8 on: September 09, 2021, 06:47:00 PM +0100 »

You can drive all cars but the 2 supercars, a Porsche e.g. is very smooth to drive.

Philippe, I've tried some laps in the Porsche and it's great. As Evil suggests, go easy on the throttle and brake early. I was getting 1:42s in no time at all. You'll easily be able to do it with your driving talent.
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« Reply #9 on: September 09, 2021, 07:20:26 PM +0100 »

thanks,I try poesche, wait and see
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« Reply #10 on: September 10, 2021, 08:42:28 AM +0100 »

Hi all

Info cars = http://canam71.gplworld.de/

Power weight ratio

Group A
McLaren M8F = 0.99
Lola T260 =  1.03
   
Group B
McLaren M8D = 1.08
Shadow Mk II = 1.06

Group C
McLaren M8B/C/E = 1.13
Lola T222 = 1.15

Group D
Ferrari 712M = 1.13

Group E
Porsche 917/10 = 1.23

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« Reply #11 on: September 10, 2021, 09:48:59 AM +0100 »


pro   Alain Maurice
am   Christian Dauger (FT)                                   
int   Claudio Navonne (FT)                                   
int   Cookie (FT)                                   
int   Doni Yourth (FT)                                   
int   Eric Bilodeau (FT)                                   
pro   EvilClive (FT)                                   
int   fpolicardi (FT)                                   
pro   GrandPrixYannick (FT)                                   
pro   MagicArsouille (FT)                                   
am   PaulV (FT)                                   
int   Pete Bennett (FT)                                   
int   Philippe Girard (FT)                                   
pro   Ziu Bacubacu (FT)                                   
int   Gareth (R1)                                   
pro   Leo Menegucci (R1)                                   
int   Phil Thornton (R1)
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« Reply #12 on: September 10, 2021, 07:47:08 PM +0100 »

Great racing with lots of action...

I made some mistakes but could recover quickly, that was a very entertaining way to race - action in all laps  Grin
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« Reply #13 on: September 11, 2021, 12:01:08 AM +0100 »

Congratulations to our podium finishers!  Well done, lads.

A couple of goofy errors put me well behind.  Dead last at one point.  Managed to pick up the pieces and gain some places thanks to the misfortune of others chief amongst those being Fulvio with a last-lap reset.  Bad luck there to say the least.

Hoping for a better run at Spa.

Note for Philippe...  Please keep your position on pace laps.  You were supposed to start behind me.
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« Reply #14 on: September 11, 2021, 09:42:21 AM +0100 »

Although I finished I consider this first failed race ... Sad
 I had to make a shiftR after my engine broke for some reason that I do not know ... it was not too high in temperature and I did not have not (I think) pushed too high in the towers!

The start of the race was much less easy than during my private practice !! But after having benefited from a few incidents, I am 3rd until my engine breaks ... the time to realize that I can use the shiftR Roll Eyes, I go down to 7 or 8!
A little distracted, the rest of the race will not be easy despite the power of the Lola (probably the setup to review!) some fights short ... a lot of tension with these cars  Smiley


Maybe to reread the starting procedure ... it seems to me that the first one (s) left well above 100mph and well in front, causing the rest of the conquerors to be largely stretched ... (not really important concerning my classification Wink! but just for the respect of the procedure Wink)
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