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February 25, 2022, 10:34:44 PM +0000 - Stardust - UKGPL Season 40 (Spring 2022) 66 71 Can-Am
Driver
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
MagicArsouille
 Equipe BGB
McLaren Elva Mk.2 333ci (#1966) Group 7 1 1:32.616
116.610mph
1 47:15.290
114.273mph
30 1:32.969
116.167mph
Goodyear  
GregT
 Team Baarf
Lola T70 MkII 427 Ford (#1966) Group 7 2 +0.669
115.773mph
2 +44.158
112.521mph
30 1:32.848
116.318mph
Goodyear  
Pete Bennett
 TeamTobo
Lola T70 MkII 427 Ford (#1966) Group 7 4 +1.911
114.252mph
3 +1:02.067
111.825mph
30 1:34.404
114.401mph
Goodyear  
fpolicardi
 Team7
Lola T70 MkII 333 Chevrolet (#1966) Group 7 7 +3.954
111.835mph
4 +1:21.983
111.062mph
30 1:35.988
112.513mph
Goodyear  
Claudio Navonne
 
Lola T70 MkII 333 Chevrolet (#1966) Group 7 5 +3.462
112.408mph
5 +1L
110.061mph
29 1:36.133
112.344mph
Goodyear  
Doni Yourth
 Blue Moose Racing
Lola T70 MkII 427 Ford (#1966) Group 7 8 +5.717
109.830mph
6 +57.516
107.881mph
29 1:37.187
111.125mph
Goodyear  
Rainier
 Equipe BGB
Genie Mk.10 (#1966) Group 7 9 +7.105
108.301mph
7 +2L
105.986mph
28 1:39.272
108.791mph
Firestone  
Cookie
 Antipasti Racing
Chaparral 2E (#1966) Group 7 3 +0.905
115.481mph
8 +4L
110.949mph
26 1:33.778
115.165mph
Disco
Goodyear  
EvilClive
 Blue Moose Racing
Lola T70 MkII 333 Chevrolet (#1966) Group 7 6 +3.855
111.950mph
9 +20L
107.567mph
10 1:35.386
113.223mph
Disco
Goodyear  
60fps UKGPL8
 
Genie Mk.10 (#1966) Group 7 10 DNS ---
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Firestone  
EvilClive
 Blue Moose Racing
Lola T70 MkII 427 Ford (#1966) Group 7 ---
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Goodyear  

Moderator's Report

Rolling Start: Tris forgot the rolling start and exceeded the speed limit before the red line. Any advantage gained was soon lost when he span out a few laps later and lost several places. The fixed penalty of 15 seconds would have been applied but, on this occasion, would not have affected the overall race result. Apology received from Tris.

All drivers reminded to familiarise themselves with the rules regarding rolling starts.

No other reported incidents.

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« on: February 17, 2022, 12:03:14 PM +0000 »

Season 40 – CanAM – Round 4 – Stardust

After the cobbles of Portugal, we return to the long-lost track of Stardust. It was built in 1965 by the Stardust Hotel and Casino. It hosted the season finale of the Can-Am Championship between 1966 and 1968. In 1969 the Stardust hotel was sold and the new owners largely abandoned the track; leased for a while then the whole land was sold. In 1970 track was closed and Spring Valley community took its place. Yet another classic track lost to the developers.

ROLLING STARTS

Red Line is after T2





Race list =   igor
Server =   UKGPL_8_60fps
IP Address =   aaa.bbb.ccc.ddd
Password =   see above
Damage Model =   INT
GPL Mod =   CA66
60fps Patch =   60fpsV2newmod
Track download =   link
Track directory =   stardust
Qualifying Starts =   20:45 UK Time  -  45min
Race Starts =   ~21:30 UK time
Race Length =   30 laps
Replay =   here

Please, excepting emergencies, no chat until Session Completed in qualification. No chat in the race until ALL drivers still racing have crossed the line.

Driver lists and division specific rules can be found on the Championships Stangings Page. Please pay particular attention to the rules regarding ROLLING STARTS and chassis selection.

Only ONE Shift-R is allowed with NO need for a Stop and Go.

DRIVERROUND 1   ROUND 2   ROUND 3    
MagicArsouille (FT)  Pro   McLaren-Elva Mk. II Chev 333   Lola T70 Mk. II Chev 333   Lola T70 Mk. II Ford 427    
GregT (R1)  Pro   Lola T70 Mk. II Chev 333   Lola T70 Mk. II Ford 427      
Phil Thornton (R1)  Pro   McLaren-Elva Mk. II Chev 333        
fpolicardi (FT)  IntLola T70 Mk. II Ford 305Lola T70 Mk. II Ford 305   Lola T70 Mk. II Chev 333    
Claudio Navonne (FT)  IntLola T70 Mk. II Ford 305   Lola T70 Mk. II Chev 333   McLaren-Elva Mk. II Chev 333    
Pete Bennett (FT)  Pro   Lola T70 Mk. II Ford 427   McLaren Mk. 2 Ford 289   McLaren-Elva Mk. II Chev 333    
francesco (FT)  IntChaparral 2E Chev 327Chaparral 2E Chev 327    
Doni Yourth (FT)  IntHuffaker Genie Mk. 10   McLaren-Elva Mk. I Chev 327   McLaren-Elva Mk. II Chev 333    
Rainier (R1)  IntHuffaker Genie Mk. 10   McLaren-Elva Mk. I Chev 327   Lola T70 Mk. II Ford 305    
PaulV (R1)  AmMcLaren Mk. 2 Ford 289   Huffaker Genie Mk. 10      
EvilClive (FT)  IntChaparral 2E Chev 327   Lola T70 Mk. II Chev 333Chaparral 2E Chev 327    
Cookie (FT)  IntChaparral 2E Chev 327   Huffaker Genie Mk. 10   Lola T70 Mk. II Ford 305    
GrandPrixYannick (FT)  Pro       Lola T70 Mk. II Chev 333    
Gareth (R1)  Int        
Leo Menegucci (R1)  Pro          
RBald (R1)  Am        

REMINDER: Drivers must choose 3 cars from the 1966 Can-Ams, drive each at least once but no more than twice.
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« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2022, 10:33:02 PM +0000 »

Tris - ROLLING START

I need to look in more detail, but you exceeded 150 MPH(!) before T2. The red-line was positioned just AFTER T2.
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« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2022, 11:48:54 PM +0000 »

This Sim was not designed to have rolling starts.
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« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2022, 01:51:09 AM +0000 »

A one-minute time penalty would seem to be appropriate for Bot.  It is not without precedent(Mosport, Canadian Grand Prix(for sportscars), 1962).
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« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2022, 08:35:43 AM +0000 »

Cars driven after 4 rounds.

DRIVERROUND 1   ROUND 2   ROUND 3   ROUND 4   
MagicArsouille (FT)  Pro   McLaren-Elva Mk. II Chev 333   Lola T70 Mk. II Chev 333   Lola T70 Mk. II Ford 427McLaren-Elva Mk. II Chev 333   
GregT (R1)  Pro   Lola T70 Mk. II Chev 333Lola T70 Mk. II Ford 427   Lola T70 Mk. II Ford 427   
Phil Thornton (R1)  Pro   McLaren-Elva Mk. II Chev 333            
fpolicardi (FT)  IntLola T70 Mk. II Ford 305Lola T70 Mk. II Ford 305Lola T70 Mk. II Chev 333Lola T70 Mk. II Chev 333   
Claudio Navonne (FT)  IntLola T70 Mk. II Ford 305Lola T70 Mk. II Chev 333   McLaren-Elva Mk. II Chev 333Lola T70 Mk. II Chev 333   
Pete Bennett (FT)  Pro   Lola T70 Mk. II Ford 427   McLaren Mk. 2 Ford 289   McLaren-Elva Mk. II Chev 333   Lola T70 Mk. II Ford 427   
francesco (FT)  IntChaparral 2E Chev 327Chaparral 2E Chev 327      
Doni Yourth (FT)  IntHuffaker Genie Mk. 10   McLaren-Elva Mk. I Chev 327   McLaren-Elva Mk. II Chev 333   Lola T70 Mk. II Ford 427   
Rainier (R1)  IntHuffaker Genie Mk. 10   McLaren-Elva Mk. I Chev 327   Lola T70 Mk. II Ford 305Huffaker Genie Mk. 10   
PaulV (R1)  AmMcLaren Mk. 2 Ford 289   Huffaker Genie Mk. 10         
EvilClive (FT)  IntChaparral 2E Chev 327Lola T70 Mk. II Chev 333Chaparral 2E Chev 327Lola T70 Mk. II Chev 333   
Cookie (FT)  IntChaparral 2E Chev 327   Huffaker Genie Mk. 10   Lola T70 Mk. II Ford 305Chaparral 2E Chev 327   
GrandPrixYannick (FT)  Pro         Lola T70 Mk. II Chev 333      
Gareth (R1)  Int            
Leo Menegucci (R1)  Pro               
RBald (R1)  Am            

Reminder: You may only drive THREE cars from the CA66 MOD. eg. Huffaker x 2, Chap x 2, Lola T70 x 1
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« Reply #5 on: February 26, 2022, 03:33:47 PM +0000 »

An interesting and informative round in the 1966 CanAm ground-pounders at Stardust.

No less than three Lola T70 Ford 427 CID V-8 entries for Greg, Pete and myself.  I was clearly off the pace and there was good reason for that.  One is down to style and secondly, I decided to run the car as an automatic transmission with only two speeds.  This was as the car was entered for Mario Andretti in the actual race and I believe was a development of the Ford's Kar Kraft unit as intended for the GT40 Mk2 and Mk4 programmes.  The monster engine has enormous torque which helps offset the lack of gears.  As well, at the time of the real race, there may well have been no multi-gear transaxle available to take all that grunt.

I experimented on race day with assorted ratios to find a combination that worked to my satisfaction.  Top gear was easy to dial in but first gear took some testing adjustments through quite a few test runs.  There was a great limitation to this experiment in that the first-to-second gear change-up occurs at about a paltry 5700 rpm.  I would have much preferred that figure to be closer to 6500 r's.  It was necessary to find a bottom gear ratio that avoided the shift point happening at an inopportune time.  Having to live with handicap meant that acceleration was significantly compromised.  I note from the replay cap that both Greg and Pete are making manual changes at a much, much higher engine speed.

As for the race itself, pulling away from the grid was going to be tricky.  With the auto-shift invoked, GPL gets a little weird in trying to figure out how to get the car moving away cleanly.  It's very easy to run the revs clear off the dial.  I did, at least, manage a getaway without too much drama.  Dave started behind me and must have wondered what I was doing.

As the laps wound off, I fell back as expected but my drive was going well.  Only a couple of very light nudges of the buried tyre polos.  That was until Lap26 when I clipped one in T9 and the car spun.  Really annoyed at this as the replay cap shows that there was a clearance there of at least 10cm.  Grrr...  If that wasn't bad enough, the incident was compounded as Pete was not far behind and couldn't avoid me.  A massive collision sent both our Lolas into wild gyrations.  Very sorry for that, Pete, but glad to see that you could resume to claim a well-earned podium behind Greg.  Pretty decent to have those two cars take P2 and P3.

All in all, a fun and worthwhile experiment but as for trying to run the car as an automatic again in future, I think that I'll abide by the time-honoured phrase...

"What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas."  Smiley
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