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September 19, 2023, 10:36:34 PM +0100 - Bathurst - UKGPL Season 43 (Autumn 2023) 1971 Can-Am
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
GregT
 Team Baarf
McLaren M8B/C/E (#1971) Group 7 1 1:51.379
126.274mph
1 45:25.570
123.843mph
24 1:51.154
126.529mph
Goodyear  
Phil Thornton
 Antipasti Racing
Shadow MKll (#1971) Group 7 5 +3.588
122.333mph
2 +53.815
121.445mph
24 1:53.579
123.828mph
Goodyear  
Pete Bennett
 TeamTobo
McLaren M8B/C/E (#1971) Group 7 2 +1.748
124.323mph
3 +1:06.994
120.872mph
24 1:53.956
123.418mph
Goodyear  
fpolicardi
 Team7
Lola T260 (#1971) Group 7 4 +3.200
122.747mph
4 +1:45.934
119.209mph
24 1:53.619
123.784mph
Goodyear  
Doni Yourth
 Blue Moose Racing
McLaren M8D (#1971) Group 7 12 5 +1:46.486
119.186mph
24 1:54.268
123.081mph
Goodyear  
Rainier
 Equipe BGB
Lola T222 (#1971) Group 7 8 +8.270
117.546mph
6 +1L
115.546mph
23 1:57.637
119.556mph
Goodyear  
Cookie
 Antipasti Racing
McLaren M8D (#1971) Group 7 3 +2.429
123.579mph
7 +4L
119.300mph
20 1:55.022
122.274mph
Disco
Goodyear  
Walter Conn
 REV
McLaren M8B/C/E (#1971) Group 7 9 +12.586
113.453mph
8 +7:47.102
99.573mph
20 2:02.073
115.212mph
Disco
Goodyear  
Arf Arf Arf
 Team Baarf
Ferrari 712M (#1971) Group 7 6 +5.261
120.578mph
9 +5L
115.384mph
19 1:57.027
120.179mph
accident
Firestone  
Alain Maurice
 Equipe BGB
Lola T222 (#1971) Group 7 10 +19.796
107.217mph
10 +15L
111.671mph
9 1:59.732
117.464mph
Disco
Goodyear  
Alain Maurice
 Equipe BGB
Lola T260 (#1971) Group 7 7 +6.356
119.457mph
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Goodyear  
60fps UKGPL8
 
McLaren M8D (#1971) Group 7 11 ---
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Goodyear  
EvilClive
 Blue Moose Racing
McLaren M8B/C/E (#1971) Group 7 ---
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Goodyear  
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Group 7
1:51.379
126.274mph
GregT
Qualifying
McLaren M8B/C/ESeptember 19, 2023, 10:36:34 PM +0100
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Grand Prix Legends
Group 7
1:51.154
126.529mph
GregT
Race
McLaren M8B/C/ESeptember 19, 2023, 10:36:34 PM +0100
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« on: September 14, 2023, 03:07:16 PM +0100 »

UKGPL Season 43 - 1971 Can-Am - Bathurst - Sep 19


The second race in the 1971 CanAm series finds us at Bathurst at Mount Panorama in New South Wales.

Please check the Season 43 details regarding rules and the 1971 Can-Am Championship pages in particular.

You have to "drive each car once!"
Only one Shift-R is allowed !!!


ROLLING START

As we all know CanAm allways made rolling starts...

We do a ~62mph (100kmh) rolling one line start to the exit of Hell Corner = T1
No passing allowed!



Race list = iGOR
Server = UKGPL_8
IP address Server = look at iGOR
GPL Mod = CANM71
Damage model = INT
60fps Patch = 60fpsV2newmod
Track directory = panorama
Qualifying starts = 20:45 UK time - 45 minutes
Race starts = ~ 21:30 UK time
Race length = 24laps
Replay = here



Please READ CAREFULLY THE RULES :

A driver must cross the start line in order to register the use of a chassis, participation in qualifying is not sufficient.
Drivers are reminded that Lap 1 incidents carry an extra 1 place penalty.
Drivers must complete 50% race distance to score.
MOD INT - only One Shift-R is allowed with no need to make Stop & Go
Only reported incidents will be moderated.
Please, excepting emergencies, no chat until Session Completed in qualification. No chat in the race until ALL drivers still racing have crossed the line.

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8 races - 8 cars !
Class     Driver car 1 car 2
Works Tom Johnson    POR0
Works Phil Thornton 00
Works Axel Cookie POR0
Works EvilClive POR0
Works Fulvio Policardi POR0
Works Doni YPOR0
Works Pete Bennett FER0
Works Greg TPOR0
Privat Arf Arf Arf 00
Privat Alain Maurice POR0
Privat Claudio Navonne 00
Privat DavidRainier SHA0
Privat Walter Conn POR0
Privat Enrique Farina POR0
Privat maddog 2600

Use the Track Gap Freeze Fix Patch V.09 for all on-line races.

GLA + FUN

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« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2023, 03:15:55 PM +0100 »

I totally forgot about the 1st race. I now find that I'll be driving back from a late meeting, so touch and go if I'll make the start of the race... let's see...
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« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2023, 04:51:14 PM +0100 »

Thanks to Dave for pointing out the CA71 update patch.......but I cannot find it and still have no virtual mirror  Undecided. Can anyone offer any guidance?
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« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2023, 05:08:31 PM +0100 »

Thanks to Dave for pointing out the CA71 update patch.......but I cannot find it and still have no virtual mirror  Undecided. Can anyone offer any guidance?


There is a folder in each of the cars folder labeled virtual mirror with a 3do in each folder.

C:\GPL\cars\canm71\***.***
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« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2023, 05:24:25 PM +0100 »

here are all CA71 updates

I would only install the "update patch" for now

https://www.mediafire.com/file/fdnq5wqb13z19ar/CA71_Plus.zip/file
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« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2023, 07:55:45 PM +0100 »

Thanks, Cookie. See you later.
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« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2023, 08:11:26 PM +0100 »

any tipe on setup, is the default any good or any major changes I should make?
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« Reply #7 on: September 19, 2023, 08:17:02 PM +0100 »

any tipe on setup, is the default any good or any major changes I should make?
I'll be using the default setup. Greg knows his stuff, see this post.
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« Reply #8 on: September 19, 2023, 10:15:55 PM +0100 »

Frustrating. I don't really know these cars, but I was able to run with some consistency. However about half way through the race the car started to become very unpredictable braking as you come down the hill. All sorts of moments and spins gradually pushed me to the back and then the inevitable off that flipped me over...
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« Reply #9 on: September 19, 2023, 10:24:29 PM +0100 »

here are all CA71 updates

I would only install the "update patch" for now

https://www.mediafire.com/file/fdnq5wqb13z19ar/CA71_Plus.zip/file

There might be a problem with this link. I downloaded the file and my PC was swamped with malware imitating Mcafee AV. I'm not blaming Axel in any way, but it has taken me over an hour to get rid of all the crap. GPL crashed to desktop once I had cleared the rubbish, so I reinstalled GEM ( coz that also failed to boot ) and now I am struggling with GPL reaching the PIT view and waiting for the final press of green button to jump into car....and we crash back to GEM. A job for tomorrow I think  Undecided
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« Reply #10 on: September 19, 2023, 10:30:26 PM +0100 »

The problem with free media share sites is that to make money they need to advertise. That means there are lots of panels on the website for you to click on, DON'T. Only click on the download link ONCE. The window that pops up can be cancelled and the file happily downloads in the background. Then just go into windows explorer to find your downloaded file.

If you click on any other links you might inadvertently install something you don't want.
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« Reply #11 on: September 19, 2023, 10:36:31 PM +0100 »

http://canam71.gplworld.de/
GPL Addons also has some updates for the Can Am cars. I wanted to ask if there is any problem racing online after doing the historical update?

Sorry to hear about your PC, the download websites are tricky. Best of luck getting your PC back to normal.

I practiced on Sunday night, but I lost my consistency today. I really enjoy how well the Can Am cars handle. I had hoped that I would have improved throughout the race, but it was a challenge today.

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« Reply #12 on: September 19, 2023, 10:47:14 PM +0100 »

Another good result for me. I might get to like these cars Grin. I picked up a couple of places when Fulvio and Cookie had spins and then I set off after Pete. I was reeling him in very slowly but I doubt I would have had the pace to get past had I caught him. However, with a handful of laps left Pete spun and gifted me P2. Unlucky Pete, you can't afford a single mistake at this level. Greg was on another level again, very fast indeed!

Arf, I used the default setup but I upped first and second gears to get better traction out of a couple of corners. I miscalculated my fuel, I had 7 gallons left at the end of the race. The default setup may not be the fastest but it is pretty stable and predictable which is what I needed in the race.

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« Reply #13 on: September 20, 2023, 03:21:57 PM +0100 »

Scored this one a 4/5 over at GPLWeekly.  Not a flawless drive on my part but pretty reasonable considering that 10 minutes prior to the start, I was sawing logs.  Dozed off watching YouTube videos and woke with a panic realizing that qualifying was already well and truly underway.  No time to do anything more than one sighting lap so just gassed up and hoped for the best.

Got away well and chased Alain til he slid wide and let me through.  Ditto, Walter.  Ended up behind Dave and positioned to pass on gaining the Conrod Straight but he moved left where I intended to pass and I came within an ace of shunting out.  Hung on and made the pass good in the next lap.  Came close to binning the M8D in Hell Corner to start Lap05 when the car got all out of shape under braking.  A close shave and still shaking out the cobwebs.  Later in the same lap, here's Fulvio's Lola sideways in Forrest's Elbow and I only just slipped by for the place.  Soon, he was showing large in my mirrors and after a couple of abortive pass attempts on Conrod...it is difficult to maintain control over the rises at some 200mph...I decided it best to let him through cleanly on Lap09.  Didn't take long for him to roar away into the distance.  We both closed down on Axel and on Lap12, Cookie went a bit too late on braking for Murray's and had to give best to Fulvio.  This allowed me to move into position to challenge.  Comes Lap17 and I'm within half a second of Axel when I gassed it too hard coming off Griffin's and went for a skate in the outfield grass.  Cost some serious time and my hopes largely dashed.  Hang on...  Comes Lap21 and I'm not all that far behind Axel again and he's just run too deep into Hell Corner having to use the grass verge on the outfield to save it.  I've come up hard on his left with every intention of roaring by but Axel moved left and closed off that chance.  Up on the mountain, it all went sour for Axel as he caught the verge on the infield right and it spun his M8D into a DNF.  Bad luck there, Axel.

With Fulvio well clear and nobody threatening me at this late stage, I backed off and just concentrated on hitting my marks and bringing it home to a decent P5.  Sigh...  If only I'd kept up the pace a bit, P4 would have been mine!  Fulvio's Chevy blows sky high at the end of Conrod on the last lap but he has enough momentum to creep through Murray's and coast up to the line.  I came up short of another place by all of 1/2 second.

Greg a real storming drive for the win.  Phil a great job in P2 in the Shadow.  Pete a standout run in the M8C.  Well done, chaps.

This morning, I loaded up Greg's FTD and compared it to my best with a merged replay.  In some areas, I was reasonably close on pace but up on the Mountain, he was just light-years faster.  Was he driving an M8C or a Chaparral sucker car?  Smiley
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« Reply #14 on: September 20, 2023, 03:22:13 PM +0100 »

Congratulations Phil and Pete!

I have been wanting to spend time improving my 71 setups since 2018. I copied my M8F setup from 2014 which must have been the last time I drove these cars at Mt. Panorama. It was a decent setup to copy to the M8B. I could tell the M8F setup was old since my power ramp angle was 85 and my front brake bias was 55%. I used a lot of front brake bias when I started driving GPL. I was able the change the ramp angle to 45 and the brake bias to 53%. Late in the race, I was fully depressing the brake pedal to test the limits of the car. That pushed my front tire temperatures a little higher than optimal, so I might have been able to use 52% front brake bias. Recent testing at Isle of Man where I copied my Nurburgring setup for the M8F, I was unable to use 53% front bias because the M8F fishtailed too much under braking. I had to settle with locking the inside front wheel occasionally. With the high amount of downforce created on the front of the M8F, I now guess that I'll always need more front brake bias on M8F versus the other cars.

My setup worked well on this track. My tires ran at a very good temperature until I started testing the braking limits of the car. And then the tires were still easy to recover from a little over heating. Lap 1 was a little tricky. A little practice on race fuel would have helped with that.

I drive these cars similar to the way I drive the original 67s. I use about the same braking points and similar points to accelerate. It's just everything happens a little quicker and at a higher speed. I think the level of difficulty is about the same as the 67s. This mod, like the 67s, seems to reward being smooth in your driving. I had a new thought during this race. When accelerating out of a turn it is far better to be a little late stepping on the throttle than being a little early.

You might say I have an unfair advantage with this mod. Doni and Axel are the only drivers that might have as much experience with it as I do. I'm going to try to tell you everything I think so maybe more of you can grow to enjoy driving these cars. I didn't think much of the mod when I saw it being released but I quickly grew to love the thrill of the speed these cars can achieve. I also liked that it showcased North American tracks. This mod reminded me that the US has some great tracks. Until Can Am 71, I had grown to think all the great tracks were in Europe. This mod also allowed me to see what it was like to drive laps as fast as Phil Woodward in his Lotus 49. Smiley

I liked getting Sam Posey's car. If I could have been a race driver, I might have been better than Sam Posey. I also like driving yellow cars for some reason. Maybe, it is because my first vehicle was a yellow 1980 Toyota pickup SR5. And the New Mexico state flag is yellow with a red Zia symbol. I'm always looking for the Zia symbol when I drive one of the yellow cars.

It appears I wasn't able to help Alain any. If you can learn to drive the 67s you can learn to drive these cars.

And if you have a setup you like in one of the V8 cars, it's not a bad place to start in the other V8 cars. I would setup the M8F and copy it's setup to the other V8 cars. I now wonder if that was wise since there seems to be a large difference in downforce on the front of the M8F. But it was still better than starting with the default.

I'll post pictures of my setup for Panorama soon.

Shortly before I lapped Dave, I wanted to slow down and let Pete back into my slipstream to see if I could break the tow again. I tried to let Dave get a slipstream for two laps. With Phil 30 seconds behind at that point I didn't want to wait that long so I put throttle back down after two slow laps in front of Dave.

Tristan and Yannick are as fast or faster than me in these cars, although this mod would likely give me the best chance to beat them. With some practice TomJ would have had a good chance at P2. Heck, he might have been able to use the slipstream to keep up with me.

I am disappointed that Clive could not race. I hope you soon get your computer working right. Running this old software can be a real pain in the as* at times.

Thanks for the fun gentlemen and thanks for giving me a good opportunity to work on my setups.
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