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February 25, 2024, 11:12:17 PM +0000 - Hockenheim (1965-2001) - UKGPL Season 44 (Spring 2024) 1967 F1 (Privateers)
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
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Ricardo Valim da Silva
 
Eagle T1G (Weslake 1967) (#1967) F1 1967 2 +0.107
136.131mph
1 47:41.510
133.200mph
25 1:53.252
134.621mph
Goodyear  
Mikos
 
Eagle T1G (Weslake 1967) (#1967) F1 1967 7 +2.829
132.901mph
2 +30.419
131.799mph
25 1:53.346
134.510mph
Goodyear  
dave curtis
 Black Night Racing
Honda RA300 (#1967) F1 1967 9 +2.907
132.811mph
3 +42.409
131.255mph
25 1:53.971
133.772mph
Firestone  
philippe GIRARD
 Equipe BGB
Brabham BT24 (Repco) (#1967) F1 1967 5 +2.681
133.073mph
4 +50.900
130.872mph
25 1:54.522
133.128mph
Goodyear  
Billy Nobrakes
 Black Night Racing
Ferrari 312 (1967) (#1967) F1 1967 6 +2.770
132.969mph
5 +1:12.655
129.902mph
25 1:54.735
132.881mph
Firestone  
Albert Hallu
 
Eagle T1G (Weslake 1967) (#1967) F1 1967 11 +3.778
131.811mph
6 +1:13.555
129.862mph
25 1:54.041
133.690mph
Goodyear  
PaulV
 Blue Moose Racing
Ferrari 312 (1967) (#1967) F1 1967 13 +5.165
130.249mph
7 +1:39.898
128.707mph
25 1:55.635
131.847mph
Firestone  
Pepe Higdon
 
Ferrari 312 (1967) (#1967) F1 1967 8 +2.861
132.864mph
8 +1:48.146
128.349mph
25 1:54.643
132.988mph
Firestone  
phspok
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Honda RA300 (#1967) F1 1967 12 +3.968
131.594mph
9 +1:48.901
128.317mph
25 1:55.619
131.865mph
Firestone  
Rainier
 Equipe BGB
Honda RA300 (#1967) F1 1967 14 +5.537
129.836mph
10 +1L
129.762mph
24 1:55.905
131.540mph
unknown
Firestone  
il_lupo_mannaro
 Black Night Racing
BRM P115 (#1967) F1 1967 15 +5.634
129.729mph
11 +3L
123.119mph
22 1:57.510
129.743mph
Header
Goodyear  
Eric Bilodeau
 Equipe BGB
BRM P115 (#1967) F1 1967 10 +3.716
131.881mph
12 +7L
128.254mph
18 1:57.342
129.929mph
Disco
Goodyear  
bernie
 REV
Honda RA300 (#1967) F1 1967 18 +7.919
127.255mph
13 +17L
121.921mph
8 2:02.590
124.367mph
Disco
Firestone  
Walter Conn
 REV
BRM P115 (#1967) F1 1967 17 +7.390
127.819mph
14 +18L
117.917mph
7 1:59.999
127.052mph
Disco
Goodyear  
CubbieRoo
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Brabham BT24 (Repco) (#1967) F1 1967 16 +7.261
127.957mph
15 +22L
122.218mph
3 1:59.459
127.626mph
Disco
Goodyear  
Moises Pereira
 
Eagle T1G (Weslake 1967) (#1967) F1 1967 1 1:51.889
136.261mph
16 +23L
129.904mph
2 1:54.547
133.099mph
Disco
Goodyear  
francesco
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Eagle T1G (Weslake 1967) (#1967) F1 1967 4 +2.337
133.473mph
17 +25L
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Disco
Goodyear  
Ruy Petra
 
Eagle T1G (Weslake 1967) (#1967) F1 1967 3 +2.108
133.741mph
DNS ---
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Goodyear  
60fps UKGPL10
 
Honda RA300 (#1967) F1 1967 19 ---
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Firestone  
PaulV
 Blue Moose Racing
BRM P115 (#1967) F1 1967 ---
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Goodyear  

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« on: February 19, 2024, 06:53:44 PM +0000 »

Season 44 F1 1967 PRIVATEERS – Round 3 –  Hockenheim
The fourth race in the 1967 Privateers Formula 1 series finds us at Hockenheim in Germany. In 1965, when the new Autobahn A 6 separated the village from the main part of the track, an updated version of Hockenheim circuit was built, which incorporated a new "Motodrom" stadium section. Two fast chicanes were added after Jim Clark was killed on 7 April 1968 in a Formula 2 racing accident.  A small memorial was placed at the site of his accident near the first chicane. In order to improve safety even further, the track was lined with crash barriers in 1970. But the track was still dangerous and claimed the life of Patrick Depailler in 1980. So in 1982, the first chicane was made slower and a third chicane was added at the Ostkurve (east curve). In the early 2000s, Formula 1 officials demanded the 6.823 km (4.240 mi) track be shortened and threatened to discontinue racing there.  So the state government of Baden-Württemberg secured the financing for a redesign by Hermann Tilke ready for the 2002 German Grand Prix. The new "Tilke Track" was not universally popular and many drivers preferred the long circuit. Sadly the old circuit was torn up and replanted with trees thereby preventing any chance of reinstating the long circuit for Formula 1 or indeed using it for historic car races.

Track Limits.  For the purposes of moderating, the track boundary will be the edge of the grass verge. This means the drivers will be able to use all the tarmac in the stadium section. Please check the rules regarding corner cutting (see last bullet point under the General section on the Racing Etiquette page) and the Penalty Guidelines for a bad rejoin.

THERE ARE MORE THAN 19 REGISTERED DRIVERS IN THIS SERIES, SO :
The full time drivers can start to practice as soon as the server is available.  Reserve drivers can also join as soon as the server becomes available but must leave the server with 35 minutes of qualifying left, for a total of 5 minutes; this will allow any remaining full timers to join.  If there is enough space on the grid, the reserve drivers will be able to rejoin when there are 30 mins of qualifying left.  

Race list = iGOR
Server = UKGPL10
IP address = 217.155.118.41
Password = see above
GPL Mod = 67F1
60fps Patch = 60fpsV2newmod
Track download = Hockenheim 1967
Track directory = hockenhm
Quali starts = 20:45  UK time -> 45min
Race starts = ~21:30 UK time
Race length = ~50 min -> 25 laps
Replay = here

Please check the Season 44 details regarding rules and the 1967 F1 Privateers Championship pages in particular.

Please use the Track Gap Freeze Fix Patch V.09 for all on-line races.

Please READ CAREFULLY THE RULES :
A driver must cross the start line in order to register the use of a chassis, participation in qualifying is not sufficient.

The tokens system will be used with drivers being awarded tokens for starting the season and for starting each race. Each car will cost a number of tokens per race.

Drivers are reminded that Lap 1 incidents carry an extra 1 place penalty.

Drivers must complete 50% race distance to score.

MOD PRO so no shift-R

Only reported incidents will be moderated.

Please, excepting emergencies, no chat until Session Completed in qualification. No chat in the race until ALL drivers still racing have crossed the line.
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« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2024, 06:37:51 PM +0000 »


It's been mentioned a couple of times recently for other races at this track,  but if you experience crash to desktop  (particularly at the approach to/in the stadium section) then be sure to apply track updates or use a good track install.

See HERE

Ideally test before the race  Smiley
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« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2024, 08:07:51 PM +0000 »

Hello people,
I installed the track posted on the forum by Cookie that prevent the game from crashing. Now I can just join the servers by IP. With my old track I could enter normaly via Igor.
Igor doesnt recognize the new track.
Is there a way to fix Igor in these situations ?
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« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2024, 08:30:39 PM +0000 »

It might be a 67season.ini problem. Make sure you only have one Hockenheim entry in your 67season.ini file.
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« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2024, 08:33:11 PM +0000 »

Now I can just join the servers by IP. With my old track I could enter normaly via Igor.
Igor doesnt recognize the new track.
Is there a way to fix Igor in these situations ?

Did you create a new \tracks\hockenhm  folder & are the files extracted into that folder?

I think iGOR needs file indexing enabled on NTFS drives,  but presumably is already enabled for your GPL folder/sub-folders? (I guess you would have other issues if not...).

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« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2024, 08:46:11 PM +0000 »

I just extracted the zip directly on tracks folder, above the other I had installed.
I will look into it after the race to prevent issues.
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« Reply #6 on: February 25, 2024, 09:40:19 PM +0000 »

Suddenly ,in the first curve,I felt the car strange.During the braking i lost the car.Exit from the game i find a strange default setup instead of mine.Unexplained phenomenon.
The season 44 is not my season.
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« Reply #7 on: February 25, 2024, 10:08:30 PM +0000 »

Hi everyone, its good to be back. I was out of town during the last privateers race.  I was determined to race today. Thankfully everything worked out.

The race was very interesting with Bernie, Matt, and Fabio giving me a tow. That was until I lost a cylinder. I hoped that I would be able to continue since I still had 15 cylinders left. It was just wishful thinking. Afterwards, I tried to watch the race, and then my PC froze. Perhaps I need to use a different version of this track. 

I hope that everyone had a good race. Thanks organizers and host.

See you next time!

 
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« Reply #8 on: February 25, 2024, 10:33:06 PM +0000 »



You'd think 16 would involve some hot-spares!

Afterwards, I tried to watch the race, and then my PC froze. Perhaps I need to use a different version of this track. 

There are crash to desktop issues with earlier camera views.
Check out the track addons page: FASTLANE
or, look at the earlier posts Smiley
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« Reply #9 on: February 25, 2024, 10:43:56 PM +0000 »

Engine problem at the begin of the last lap.
I was followed by Billy and Albert, and pushed too hard under the pressure so the engine didn't like it.
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« Reply #10 on: February 25, 2024, 11:15:42 PM +0000 »

Early accident for me.
Got Pole using the drafting of some people.
At the race start I almost lost the car and saw Ricardo jump to the lead.
Decided to not attack on the first laps but He was starting to increase the gap even when I was getting his draft.
Made a mistake on OstKurve while braking and got the car directly to the wall. less two wheels.

Brake Bias on this Original GPL mod is very tricky to me. I don't know how people use 49 - 52 % brake bias and dont lose their cars.
Is it the braking + accelerator technic?

Congratz to everyone who finished and to the Podium!
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« Reply #11 on: February 25, 2024, 11:22:16 PM +0000 »

After the race I entered this text in the chat: I think this was the sloppiest race I ever had.  But then I remembered I bought GPL in November of 1993 and I had a race that first week that was much worse than this one. So this will go down as the second sloppiest race I ever had.

I saw Matt doing amazingly slow laps online just before qualifying (brake issues), and I knew Pete Lohmar wasn't going to show up (family issues). I told Matt that I'd also seen Ricardo in a Honda turning times that even I could beat (he showed up in an Eagle), so I figured there were three guys who usually kick sand in my face that I wouldn't have to worry about.. I also said that Moises would probably come in with laps in the 1:53 range (he was two seconds faster than that and would have sat sixth on the grid in the works race). I guessed I could probably qualify third or fourth and hang on for a shot at a podium finish. I mention these things to give you an idea of my unique capabilities of predicting the future.

So I qualified eighth and lost another three places during the first lap. From there to the finish it was simply a case of my repeatedly screwing up, recovering places, and screwing up again. I finished eighth, where I'd started. It was a miracle I wasn't lapped. But there's this consolation: At least it wasn't the sloppiest race I ever had.


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« Reply #12 on: February 25, 2024, 11:37:14 PM +0000 »

I don't know how people use 49 - 52 % brake bias and dont lose their cars. Is it the braking + accelerator technic?

Lasse Albrecht from asteroid B612 almost never lets off of the accelerator. His setup for this track has ramp angles of 30/85 and a FBB of 49%. This, obviously, is not for everyone.
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« Reply #13 on: February 25, 2024, 11:50:50 PM +0000 »

I don't know how people use 49 - 52 % brake bias and dont lose their cars. Is it the braking + accelerator technic?

Lasse Albrecht from asteroid B612 almost never lets off of the accelerator. His setup for this track has ramp angles of 30/85 and a FBB of 49%. This, obviously, is not for everyone.

Yeap, he is probably that fastest alien on GPL, with those type of setups I can barely do a corner.
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« Reply #14 on: February 26, 2024, 01:02:25 AM +0000 »

To not overheat the tyres by locking them, it makes a lot of sense to use a brake bias of 48 or 49 Wink

Braking into Ostkurve with locked front wheels  Shocked - there is no steering possible! I brake to near the apex...

Make hard braking tests and look at the tyres from the side only this way you can optimize your BB,
e.g. end of Mulsanne stable braking from 360 to 60 kmh in a Ford MK4 makes a BB of 49...

A load cell brake pedal helps a lot to optimize this.
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