UKGPL Season 44 (Spring 2024) 1967 F1 (Privateers) - Hockenheim - Feb 25

[francesco]

Fran, the race importer shows you drove as "Fran67 Molteni", which looks to be the right Player for the 67 F1 cars (assuming you follow the normal naming convention of a unique player name for each mod). This is the player that would have been selected in the iGOR window.
I suspect you developed your race setup using a different player. I'm sure if you look through the setups for your other players, you will find your race setup.

I have my setup for Eagle hocken in my folder "Fran67 Molteni".
I don't know what happen Phil,10' before the race i choose the same setup used in qualy for the race incresasing the fuel.I check the setup after the race and i found the default witn fuel for 3 laps,BB 48%,toe-in front -508 rear 1270.48% of BB explain why i was out after touching the brake.I hope that was not another bug of Fairshift

[EvilClive]

I brake with my right foot so I'm a 61% Front driver . Seem to work.

Apologies, I should have said that I was referring to LEFT FOOT brakers.
Yep, right foot braking appears to require an entirely different approach, because of the effects of the power/coast. By definition, if you are right foot braking then you must have lifted completely off the gas, thereby engaging the COAST setting. Also I know that some of you (Pete included ) use the classic Heel and Toe method on the pedals, where the ball of your right foot on the brake, whilst using the heel to "blip" the throttle between gear downshifts.
Although I have never done an in depth study into what happens during the Heal and Toe period, I suspect that you are actually switching between Coast and Power values on the diff each time the gas is blipped? I can see that if done with skill and dexterity it could be very successful, by constantly adjusting the balance and turn of the car? My feet are just not built for those sorts of ballet moves.

It is strange that so many of us who drive a real life manual gearbox in our daily life, opt for left foot braking in GPL?  I have tried left foot braking on my Ford Mondeo on a VERY quiet road and at low speed. The result was frightening and scary!!!!  DO NOT TRY THIS AT HOME!!!
Quite why we can drive sims with left foot braking so comfortably is a mystery to me. lol

[Phil Thornton]

Fran, the race importer shows you drove as "Fran67 Molteni", which looks to be the right Player for the 67 F1 cars (assuming you follow the normal naming convention of a unique player name for each mod). This is the player that would have been selected in the iGOR window.
I suspect you developed your race setup using a different player. I'm sure if you look through the setups for your other players, you will find your race setup.

I have my setup for Eagle hocken in my folder "Fran67 Molteni".
I don't know what happen Phil,10' before the race i choose the same setup used in qualy for the race incresasing the fuel.I check the setup after the race and i found the default witn fuel for 3 laps,BB 48%,toe-in front -508 rear 1270.48% of BB explain why i was out after touching the brake.I hope that was not another bug of Fairshift

Well since your setup was in the correct folder, my theory is wrong.

So I don't know what happened, hopefully it isn't another obscure Fairshift problem

[Phil Thornton]

Although I have never done an in depth study into what happens during the Heal and Toe period, I suspect that you are actually switching between Coast and Power values on the diff each time the gas is blipped?

That is my understanding Clive. It is how the source code works according to Lee in para 3 E of his differential article.

Just how that can be used to effect a fast driving style is beyond me. I'm a right foot braker simply because it is more authentic not because it is quicker. However, knowing how GPL is coded does make it easier to understand the effects of blipping the throttle in the game as opposed to blipping the throttle in real life.

[dave curtis]

I have my setup for Eagle hocken in my folder "Fran67 Molteni".
I don't know what happen Phil,10' before the race i choose the same setup used in qualy for the race incresasing the fuel.I check the setup after the race and i found the default witn fuel for 3 laps,BB 48%,toe-in front -508 rear 1270.48% of BB explain why i was out after touching the brake.I hope that was not another bug of Fairshift

So I don't know what happened, hopefully it isn't another obscure Fairshift problem

If you want to re-test, I've launched UKGPL10 with Hockenhm again (15min sessions) until mid-late afternoon.
Hosting with the Honda as before, but I'll try to remember to host next time with the BRM, in case you want to use it with all gears

[bernie]

I brake with my right foot so I'm a 61% Front driver . Seem to work.

It is strange that so many of us who drive a real life manual gearbox in our daily life, opt for left foot braking in GPL?  I have tried left foot braking on my Ford Mondeo on a VERY quiet road and at low speed. The result was frightening and scary!!!!  DO NOT TRY THIS AT HOME!!!
Quite why we can drive sims with left foot braking so comfortably is a mystery to me. lol

Unlike the brakes which are hydraulic the Mondeo has a mechanical clutch with no hydraulic assistance , the clutch pedal requires quite a lot of pressure to depress compared to the brakes wich need much less  .
Your left foot mussell memory has become tuned to use a lot more pressure to overcome the clutch resistance so if used for the brakes with there hydraulic assistance we automatically apply too much force .

Left foot braking in tin tops was common with the race & rally drivers of yesterday , just needs practise to perfect the art , as we all did with GPL when we were beginers 

[EvilClive]

But, my feet are so far from my brain that they feel that they should declare independence from a remote governance system. 

[francesco]

If you want to re-test, I've launched UKGPL10 with Hockenhm again (15min sessions) until mid-late afternoon.
Hosting with the Honda as before, but I'll try to remember to host next time with the BRM, in case you want to use it with all gears Smiley

Thank you Dave.I tested and i have found my setup for the race with fuel for 25 laps.Also entering the race all was normal.
What happened Sunday remain for me a mystery,I hope it was a one-off case to be forgotten.