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August 12, 2008, 09:23:30 PM +0100 - Spa (GPL) - UKGPL Season 16 (2008)
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
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NickyIckx
 
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 1 3:39.568
143.594mph
1 33:22.517
141.700mph
9 3:41.013
142.655mph
Dunlop  
Alain Maurice
 
Brabham BT7 (Climax) F1 1965 2 +0.731
143.117mph
2 +2.411
141.530mph
9 3:41.642
142.250mph
Dunlop  
Storm_Cloud
 
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 8 +3.877
141.102mph
3 +9.336
141.043mph
9 3:41.371
142.424mph
Dunlop  
Clive Loynes
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Brabham BT7 (Climax) F1 1965 3 +0.749
143.105mph
4 +14.049
140.713mph
9 3:40.513
142.978mph
Dunlop  
Burtoner
 The Coopermen
Honda RA272 F1 1965 6 +2.983
141.669mph
5 +41.594
138.817mph
9 3:41.412
142.398mph
Goodyear  
Jack O'Ferrall
 Reed Racing
BRM P261 (1965) F1 1965 17 6 +42.853
138.731mph
9 3:42.097
141.959mph
Dunlop  
bernie
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Brabham BT7 (Climax) F1 1965 7 +3.623
141.263mph
7 +51.875
138.122mph
9 3:44.535
140.417mph
Dunlop  
b_1_rd
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 5 +2.642
141.886mph
8 +1:10.008
136.914mph
9 3:42.579
141.651mph
Goodyear  
Screwcutter
 
BRM P261 (1965) F1 1965 9 +4.168
140.919mph
9 +1:15.225
136.570mph
9 3:41.761
142.174mph
Dunlop  
Phil Thornton
 Crash 'N' Burn Racing
Brabham BT7 (Climax) F1 1965 11 +7.728
138.711mph
10 +1:15.699
136.539mph
9 3:46.135
139.424mph
Dunlop  
G Poole
 
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 12 +9.630
137.560mph
11 +2:01.607
133.588mph
9 3:48.530
137.962mph
Dunlop  
flyingkiwi69
 
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 14 +15.902
133.896mph
12 +2:44.063
130.970mph
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Dunlop  
norbert
 
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 10 +5.403
140.145mph
13 +3:00.155
130.004mph
9 3:48.124
138.208mph
Dunlop  
karlisss
 
Honda RA272 F1 1965 13 +9.803
137.457mph
14 +3:19.402
128.868mph
9 3:46.950
138.923mph
Goodyear  
happyal
 
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 15 +15.967
133.859mph
15 +3:40.329
127.655mph
9 3:54.839
134.256mph
Dunlop  
EvilClive
 
Cooper T77 (Climax) F1 1965 4 +2.608
141.908mph
16 +5L
140.624mph
4 3:42.098
141.958mph
Disco
Dunlop  
dtown14
 
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 17 DNS ---
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Dunlop  
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« on: August 06, 2008, 06:36:39 PM +0100 »

UKGPL Season 16 - Pre-Season race - 65 mod - Spa-Francorchamps

This is a non-championship race which may be the curtain-raiser for both Season 16 and the new Beginner's division.  If you have problems installing the 65 mod, just post on the thread. If you haven't used the 65 cars before, be aware that though they're far easier to drive, they have no proper default setups of their own- you'll have to download one, or alter the gearing.  There are default setups available if you need one, just use the link below.      

Please be in IGOR UKGPL chatroom by 8:40 p.m.
(You will need to set up a channel called #ukgpl if you haven't already done so)
IGOR and Race passwords: see above

Server 3.ukgpl
IP address  87.194.135.42

Race date = 12-08-2008
Track =  Circuit National de Francorchamps
Variant = 65mod
Damage Model = Intermediate
Qually time = 30 minutes.
Race length = Long (10 laps)

Password: see above

Chassis assignments: please take a chassis commensurate with your experience.  If you intend to run in the Clubman's Cup in Season 16 (even if you will also enter D1), or if you have not raced with UKGPL before and intend only to race in the Beginner's division, use the Ferrari, Lotus, Brabham BT11, BRM or Honda.

Senior drivers should use either the Cooper or the Brabham BT7.

As I hope to run a team championship based on chassis it will also be helpful if drivers are distributed fairly evenly among the available chassis.

65 Mod
 
The 1965 season was the last to use the controversial 1500cc formula which had begun after 1960, to the initial advantage of Ferrari.  The 1965 cars are smaller than the 1967 cars and have less torque and hence more grip.  It was claimed that they 'cornered on rails', however this allowed the Grand Prix series to retain the use of circuits which were otherwise to prove extremely dangerous.

The 1965 cars are ideal for those new to GPL as they allow the tracks to be learnt in light reliable cars, however these are also full Formula One cars, and quite fast....  Jim Clark won the 1965 Belgian Grand Prix from in a Lotus.  Graham Hill took pole in his BRM P261 with a time of 3'45.4 .  The 1965 distance was 32 laps.

David Wright's 'Legends' site http://fp.gplegends.plus.com/ has the download of the most recent 2.0.1 version (under 'details') as well as being an exceptional guide to both 1965 and 1967, for those interested in Formula One history.

Unfortunately the current 65 mod download does not have default setups.  Default setups for all the cars and tracks that are likely to be used can be downloaded from http://www.neurology-crew.com/gplserver under '65 setups'.  Note that you will have to add enough fuel for the race, whether short or long!

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« Reply #1 on: August 08, 2008, 08:52:23 AM +0100 »

is there some program for learning the track.
i found only GPL Track Trainer, but seems it is prepared only for Nurburgring.
i mean program where you can start racing from anywhere in track.
also
is there some utility to add Ghost lap doring training?

must improve in SPA
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« Reply #2 on: August 08, 2008, 09:27:40 AM +0100 »

I believe that there is a utility that lets you start anywhere but I can't find it.  You can also hack at the track.ini to redefine your pit box.

I wouldn't do either for Spa.  It isn't long enough to be a problem and you need to do a lap for your tyres to be up to temperature anyway.

I used to just watch the AI when I encountered a new track but for 65s at Spa you would be better off downloading Steve Cloyd's lap in whatever car you want and just watch him.
http://gpladdicts.speedgeezers.net/

You get his lap and the setup that he did it with.


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« Reply #3 on: August 08, 2008, 01:47:16 PM +0100 »

Damn I forgot Steve Cloyd had replays as well as set ups , Thanks for the reminder Clive as I seem to have hit a bit of a wall at 3:41.xx and was thinking of asking for someone to post me a replay to watch .

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« Reply #4 on: August 08, 2008, 08:00:14 PM +0100 »

if anyone could explain me how ti send setups and replays , I could post my Ferri setup and extreme lucky Spa lap 1-39-65

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« Reply #5 on: August 08, 2008, 10:47:20 PM +0100 »

I think in this forum you have to host the files somewhere on your own web space then hyperlink to them.  Good lap Smiley
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« Reply #6 on: August 09, 2008, 09:03:04 AM +0100 »

You can post them here, in the Soggy Bottom Race School, and link to them from this forum
http://forum.racesimcentral.com/showthread.php?p=3859905#post3859905
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« Reply #7 on: August 09, 2008, 08:37:03 PM +0100 »

I cant seem to connect to the 65 server on igor.
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« Reply #8 on: August 09, 2008, 09:49:03 PM +0100 »

I've been on the server a few times tonight and apart from my connection dropping once all has been fine  Huh



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« Reply #9 on: August 10, 2008, 08:01:53 AM +0100 »

 Smiley
here it comes : setup and replay , Ferrari65 at Spa

http://forum.racesimcentral.com/showthread.php?p=3860545&posted=1#post3860545
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« Reply #10 on: August 10, 2008, 10:27:36 AM +0100 »

Good time Nicky.  I wanted to download it and see where you were going to overtake but I can't open a 7z file.  :'(

I'm in the mid 41s with the BT7 and a Steve Cloyd setup.

One thing to watch is that setups by SC are "Hotlap" setups.  He doesn't lift to change gear in either direction and at Spa I have always found that you have to be careful on the downshifts if you want the clockwork to stay in one piece for the whole race.  Stavelot is the main culptit in the 65s.  You have a mid-corner change down that will blow the engine if you haven't lifted enough.  The approach to Malmedy is another spot where the last minute downshifts can give the engine a zing if you are not careful.
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« Reply #11 on: August 10, 2008, 11:22:38 AM +0100 »

Was thinking about that last night Clive , I would imagine he does his hotlaps with no damage as well as I noticed he pins the rev counter in nearly every gear .

Unfortunately my connection dropped me from the server again last night  Sad Not sure if it's a settings problem or something else , anyone else running a wireless connection for racing online ? or am I going to have to get hold of 30 meters of cat5 cable  Shocked


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« Reply #12 on: August 10, 2008, 12:57:06 PM +0100 »


Unfortunately my connection dropped me from the server again last night  Sad Not sure if it's a settings problem or something else , anyone else running a wireless connection for racing online ? or am I going to have to get hold of 30 meters of cat5 cable  Shocked


Paul

You gota have wire!

Don't know of anyone who hasn't had trouble and given up on wireless.  I don't think it has the continuity required.

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« Reply #13 on: August 10, 2008, 04:46:24 PM +0100 »

Thought that would be the answer after having a quick look over at RSC , Can't see the wife being impressed when I run a cable from the front hall , across the living room and up the stairs to the bedroom  Roll Eyes   Grin Hopefully have it sorted for Tuesdays race .


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« Reply #14 on: August 10, 2008, 05:55:47 PM +0100 »

Had the same connection problem here , too much lag on wireless .

I managed to secrete the cable by routing it along the skirting board , over door frame, then to my upstairs loft conversion .

HID never looked twice at it since it was done  Smiley

 
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