UKGPL Season 16 (2008) - Spa (1967) - 65 mod - Aug 12

[Clive Loynes]

In case you didn't know (as i didn't until recently) the 65's will tolerate up change of the gears without letting off the gas at all, without sending internal parts into orbit.  Might shave a little time off.

Don't think that is true for 9 laps of Spa.

[Clive Loynes]

Last question, what is race fuel for 9 laps? Would 18 litres be enough?

I always do the calculation during qually.  Put fuel in for three laps, do three laps (including your out lap), then look at what you have used.  Divide that by the number of laps that you have done and add a litre.  That's the minimum.

[b_1_rd]

In case you didn't know (as i didn't until recently) the 65's will tolerate up change of the gears without letting off the gas at all, without sending internal parts into orbit.  Might shave a little time off.

Don't think that is true for 9 laps of Spa.

maybe i'm not pushing hard enough then! 

[EvilClive]

just tried that theory about not lifting during upshifts...........as I thought,  it doesn't work !!! lol ,   watch out for bits of cooper engine at  Malmedy

[b_1_rd]

 

Its worrying me now, I've been doing that all the time, bet my engine goes to orbit now.

[Storm_Cloud]

Really enjoyed my first online GPL race. It certainly shows that a bit of competition works wonders for your lap time as I ended up 3 seconds quicker in the race than my previous best the night before.

I managed to get a couple of cars from the start grid and was 5th early on. I had to push harder than a crack dealer to keep the top 4 in sight and for the first half of the race they were tantalisingly close but I just couldn't quite get involved. Then EvilChris crashed in Malmedy and I saw him from 200 yards away spear off to the right so I went left, then he bounced off the right hand hedge and crossed the track again. I was a bit out of shape and not had enough experience of the 65 car to know what would happen if I slammed the brakes on so I aimed as far left as possible and just got through the gap. Unfortunately I clipped Chris and he spun once more then retired. Sorry about that  :'(.

One more crash in front of me and I ended up on the podium, which was a nice surprise as I only installed GPL a few days ago after 2 years off and never driven 65 cars. I'll definitely be applying to join in next season so I hope there's a free space!

Cheers

Dave

[Clive Loynes]

One more crash in front of me and I ended up on the podium, ...............

That would be me then.

I was closing in on Alain and refused to lift coming out of Eau Rouge, put too much car on the green bit and went off to visit the fence.  My own supid fault.

Well done all.

Well done also to everyone for not hitting me on the way to Curva Grande in the Monza race.  Having dived into the server I was pleased to find that I had a Paul Jackson setup for the BT7.  Heaven knows why.  Having used it to good effect in qually I failed to make it my race setup and so started the race in the default.  This seemed to have been geared for a land speed record attempt and despite being brutal with it off the grid it set off for Curva Grande like a ruptured duck.  The light dawned when I reached said curva and was still only in 3rd.

So I watched Alain and Evil until Alain got the better of him and then buggered off.

Thanks for the racing Dave, Jack, Fred, Carrol, whatever you are this week. 

Have posted Numptygraph here
http://forum.racesimcentral.com/showthread.php?p=3862628#post3862628

[EvilClive]

Well done everyone for making it an enjoyable evening.

It looks like we have the makings of a great series in 65's to look forward to.

At Spa I was pushing the Cooper slug as hard as I could, but it just did not have that last 1% of raw speed to hold onto the Brabhams, even though I was trying to push that silly red thing further around the dial in every gear.

Then my dreaded random graphic effect kicked in, which happens ( but only occasionally and at random times) when I am close to other cars. The frame rate drops to about 25fps and the result is that the car appears to jump forward in 50mtr steps...kinda making braking and steering difficult, when you are already at the frontiers of one's limited ability!!!
I lost a couple of places as a result and was trying to hang on to Clive's coat tails through Malmedy hoping to pick up what small slipstream effect there is in 65's and .... there was a second when the universe actually stopped.....and then decided to catch up again and I re-materialised half way into the hedge!!!  The rebound caught poor Storm Cloud, so to avoid messing up anyone else's race I quit.

Monza was better and I enjoyed a race long duel with Alain ( our new French recruit I hope). he was definitely quicker on those bits without the bends, but I could just make up the time on the few bends that count at Monza. I did not think the Cooper engine would retain its components, given the thrashing it was getting, but it did.

A shame Clive was not able to get his Brabham involved as a 3 way dice might have got interesting.

Did I hear that someone is working on an update to give the 65's the same slipstream effect as the 66's?? because that, in my opinion, is the one thing that really would make these races pure magic.

Well done to all the new guys, especially at Spa. Glad to hear that some of you improved on PB's in genuine race conditions and that you all enjoyed yourselves. After all, that is what this is all about.

[happyal]

Great fun last night, thank you all for such a good race. My first on-line race.

I wasn’t as bad as I thought I would be, I didn’t have a lonely race at the back and got involved with some good racing. I made some silly mistakes which cost me a little time, and I did have an engine problem (caused by me not lifting on gear changes ) Thankfully I don’t think I interfered with anyone else’s race too much. With a bit of running I improved my best laptime by over 6 seconds, very please with that, and more importantly to me, on the laps without mistakes the times where fairly close and consistent.

It’s certainly different watching your mirrors during a race, and also almost paying as much attention to behind as to what’s in front. I fell off the road a few times during practice, but got use to it by the time of the race. Don’t really have to do that on a training game.

So, what’s going to be the next race? I’m looking forward to it already.

[b_1_rd]

Had a bit of a mare at Spa.  Just touched the backend of Karliss accelerating out of Les Combes and sent him in a spin.  Sorry about that.  Waited a bit further down track which put me behind Mr Bucket! We had a good few laps fairly close, just couldn't get quite close enough then we came across Bernie who must have been recovering from an incident.  Dave (Steve Bucket) got passed pretty quickly but I just couldn't get a clean run.  Eventually got through then promptly threw it all away at La Carriére and had to reset.

That put me back to a battling Phil and I think it was S Cutter coming up fast.  Managed to get passed Phil in the slower car, along one of the straights to finish just ahead in I think P5.

Not brilliant but all good experience.

The short races at Monza were a giggle.  Tried using the Spa setup in the first one which was ok, but not ideal.  Sorry to whoever I took out in some late breaking into the final turn, drifted over just too much.

Race 2 was good fun.  4 of us were there.  I'd switched to the 'default' setup from the link.  Got away from the line well and into P1. Alain was going really well in P2 and was quicker than me in the corners, but my BT11 seemed to have a better straight line speed, so made for some good racing.  Dave was waiting to collect the pieces of any incidents, and sure enough, it happened again at Parabolica where Alain just lost the rear, I nearly stopped in time but just touched the car enough to flip him over.  Dave was through, but we waited to see if Alain would rejoin.  Sadly he didn't but, we waited for LRC.  Wow the Fez was running well.  A rocket on the straights, and running well in the bends too, it was hard work trying to keep close.  Unfortunately he ran wide in Lesmo 1 on the final lap and Dave and I got through.  I managed to hold Dave off with my PB.  Really good race.

Thanks all, hope to see you at the next one.  Good turn out for Spa.

[Screwcutter]

Congratulations to podium and thanks everyone for a great race 

An attempt to hardwire my connection an hour before practice failed abysmally so I joined on the wifi ,
Think I managed one and a half laps before I was dropped  :'( So I spent a desperate 10-15 minutes trying to sort it all and managed to cobble together a pretty basic connection , I couldn't connect to Igor chat and web pages took in excess of 5 minutes to load if they didn't time out first  but I could join the server and race   

A first lap pile up on the run down to Burnenville saw me restart dead last so it was head down and try and stay on the track , I finally managed to catch up with Steve Bird and Phil Thornton but every time I latched onto some one's rear wheels I would promptly stick the car into a hedge  , Steve managed to pass Phil going into Masta  and I finally managed to latch onto Phils rear wheels , Unfortunately I didn't have the confidence to attempt a pass until Phil again clipped the grass this time at Blanchimont , slowing him enough for me to grit my teeth and pass him just before the exit and with only La Source between me and the chequered flag I was on to actually finish an online race where not only had I not been lapped but I had actually overtaken some one 

Thanks again for a great race and role on the next one 

[Phil Thornton]

......and with only La Source between me and the chequered flag I was on to actually finish an online race where not only had I not been lapped but I had actually overtaken some one 

and it had to me me didn't it!!! 

[Screwcutter]

and it had to me me didn't it!!! 

Well it had to be some one , Aim high that's my motto   


Paul

[karlisss]

i am very upset with the race...
i was competive only in first laps, then my engine started eaking and died 3 times during the race.
also i had problems with Shift+R... game repaired me with ded car... and i did about half lap with gear3 until i relized that maybe it is a BUG.
it is very painful to see how you going down in positions by every lap.
Then i had my bigest FIGHT for not to be the last finisher lol
anyway i was surprised that with PB 3:44 you can manage only 9-10 start position only....
hope to be more lucky next time
ps
what will be the next track?

[flyingkiwi69]

Yeah sweet race, had a blast at the back
Managed to get by all the "tidy" crashes without taking myself or someone else out!!!  Nice to see a bit of consistancy in my lap times and I managed a PB as well during the race so all and all for me a fantastic outing
Looks like we've got a good crew to race with...nice to have others of similar ability to race against!!!  As long as you all don't go getting waaaaay better tooooo quick
Haven't had time to sit down and watch the replay and actually work out what happened, I've been working on converting an old fold-up black and decker work stand into a rig to mount my wheel and pedals...it's coming along nicely, entertains my wife and kids with my constant application-rip-reapplication of duct tape and climbing in and out of the whole thing.  Don't think it will improve my times any but it'll sure make my racing more comfortable and enjoyable!
Here's a big thumbs up to everyone and looking forward to the next race
Jon