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  • S16Dn Watkins Glen: September 23, 2008
September 23, 2008, 10:01:36 PM +0100 - Watkins Glen (Classic) - UKGPL Season 16 (2008) Novice '65
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Will Tway
 Crash 'N' Burn Racing
Honda RA272 F1 1965 1 1:09.787
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1 38:58.502
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33 1:10.042
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Goodyear  
Storm_Cloud
 
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 5 +0.596
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2 +21.430
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33 1:10.656
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Dunlop  
Burtoner
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 8 +1.124
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3 +32.716
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33 1:10.789
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Goodyear  
FullMetalGasket
 
Honda RA272 F1 1965 4 +0.570
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4 (+2) +34.386
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33 1:10.154
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Goodyear  
bernie
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 6 +0.929
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5 +46.601
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33 1:10.526
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Goodyear  
NickyIckx
 
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 2 +0.113
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6 +58.306
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33 1:09.997
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Dunlop  
Clive Loynes
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Brabham BT7 (Climax) F1 1965 10 +1.412
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7 +1:03.864
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33 1:10.976
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Dunlop  
john roberts
 
Cooper T77 (Climax) F1 1965 11 +1.583
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8 +1:11.196
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33 1:11.384
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Dunlop  
paulwbird
 HikiWazaRacing
Honda RA272 F1 1965 12 +1.846
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9 +1:13.717
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33 1:11.318
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Goodyear  
Screwcutter
 
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 9 +1.321
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10 +1L
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32 1:10.973
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Dunlop  
Geoff65
 
Honda RA272 F1 1965 7 +0.957
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11 (+1) +14.100
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32 1:11.287
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Goodyear  
maestro57
 
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 13 +2.677
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12 +36.952
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32 1:11.612
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Goodyear  
Hristo Itchov
 
Cooper T77 (Climax) F1 1965 3 +0.263
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13 +25L
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8 1:10.498
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Dunlop  
Jack O'Ferrall
 Reed Racing
BRM P261 (1965) F1 1965 14 +4.964
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14 DNS ---
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Dunlop  
BREASTS 03
 
BRM P261 (1965) F1 1965 15 ---
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Dunlop  

Moderator's Report

Congratulations to Will for a deserved win. Despite my efforts at balance there were several Hondas in the race, one Ferrari and no BRM's! There wasn't even enough fuel for all the Hondas, and Paul Bird was the one who lost out... Hopefully we should have the BRMs back next race but with all the Ferraris in the Novices there might be room for one more in the Amateurs... Thanks to Clive for again providing the server, unfortunately we have not yet managed to get UKGPL1 working on Igor.

The race was started off a tight grid, which led to a few problems that might not otherwise have occurred.


Server replay time: 0

Start

The side-to-side contact between Nicky and S.Cloud is warp, though Nicky may have been moving inside too early in the race. I'm not going to penalise this, because of the tight grid and because it only affected Nicky, since he was thrown over the armco out of everyone's way.

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 0h00m58s

L1 Esses

Geoff clips John Roberts right rear as he turns in. Geoff turns in too early- he can see that there are cars two abreast just ahead of him, with the outside car forced to stay wide.

I've waived the additional 1 place Lap 1 penalty and the yellow card points because of the tight grid.

John performed an sng for his reset, though it wasn't necesssary as he wasn't at fault. However the sng wasn't carried out 'according to Loynes', as you have to be closer to the pit wall, as Clive kindly explained to me in my first UKGPL race.


Server replay time: 0h01m03s

L1 Esses

S.Cutter loses control on the kerb and is rear-ended by P.Maestro, who has to reset, but doesn't need a sng for this. Racing incident.

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 0h25m17s

L20 90

S.Cutter loses control in the 90 and slews sideways, there seems to be a gap which N.Ickx goes for, leading to side-to-side contact as S.Cutter regains grip. Both cars suffer minor damage.

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 0h28m05s

L23 Back straight

FullMetalGasket attempts a very ambitious pass between P.Bird and C.Loynes at the end of the back straight, and makes contact with Clive's left rear, sending him off. Clive is left upside down on the racing line and is hit by J.Roberts, who has failed to slow under yellows, and so correctly takes an sng for the needed reset.


Server replay time: 0h31m49s

L27 Turn 1

Burt makes a slight error at the 90 allowing S.Cloud to get alongside before T1, but then turns as if S.Cloud wasn't there, and the side-to-side contact sends Burt into the armco. The contact was Burt's fault but I'm not going to penalise it, as there was no damage or hindrance to S.Cloud.

Bernie is following and finds Burt right on the racing line at low speed. He tries the inside where there is no space, the contact sends him into the armco. There wasn't much Burt could have done about this, as his car had simply spun onto the line and any attempt to move off it would have just taken up more of the track. Bernie had little time to choose and almost squeezed past.

  • Racing incident

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« Reply #60 on: October 04, 2008, 10:56:44 PM +0100 »

I admit I didn't take a stop go penalty as I didn't shift R. I think that was within the rules but it's not the end of the world if I take a 30s penalty.
Ah! I see I should read posts more thouroughly. I didn't see that you wrote that you didn't shift-r, which I saw from the replay as well, so of course you shouldn't be penalised. I'm sorry about that misread.

I also see from the replay that you had a formidable last sector on your best lap, or more presisely, the third last turn of your best lap was formidable. Until that, I was pretty far ahead of you on my best lap, but in that single turn you regained all of my advantage, and a little more, and took three hundredths of a second off my best lap. Impressive! thumbup1
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