I don't want to preempt the moderator here but if I may point you to the appropriate rules you should be able to judge for yourselves and hopefully come to the same conclusion the moderator will make.
To me ,following the picture 1, 2 & 3 , its definitely still Clives corner .
There is still overlap so neither driver had won the corner outright, there is still a lot to fight for.
But as I said as well , to me at that situation it was totally different looking :
No car beside me on the left.
If you can't see a car in your mirrors then you must assume it is along side and therefore hold your line accordingly. Have a look at the section on blind spots
here. When fighting for a corner drivers should keep to their own side of the track. The penalty guidelines cover most scenarios - check
here. Can you pick out the relevant scenario? The moderator will have to.
But again : I apologize for that .
Thank you for being so courteous. Good manners make all the difference and make the whole on-line experience more enjoyable for everyone.
I would like to echo Ken's point about staying wide if you are being overtaken. The characteristics of warp are such that the driver on the outside is more susceptible (for a detailed explanation look
here). You are asking for trouble taking an aggressive outside line (not that I am suggesting Clive did here). Incidentally it is the
server replay that determines whether or not there was actual contact. I assume the screen shots are from Clive's replay and if so, I think you'll find Nicky's car will not be quite so far left on the server replay. As has been mentioned above, the 67 collision box used in the 65s is slightly larger than the car itself, this complicates the moderators task when determining whether or not warp played a role.
P.S. Anybody who calls this right is potential moderator material
I've analysed the server replay Captain, and these are my findings.
Clive got a good run out of Curva Grande, but Nicky got an even better one and drew along the inside of Clive before the braking for Lesmo. Upon braking, Clive was ahead and turning in, Nicky braked later, slid wide and hit Clive thus starting the chain reaction that caused so much chaos (great to watch on the replay BTW).
In my opinion, collision boxes do not come into this one *even though they're obviously too big for these cars*. Yes it was a factor, but Clive was on the outside, heading on the ideal racing line and the outside of Lesmo 1, and Nicky plain didn't give Clive enough room
for both of them to make the corner. If Nicky had been just ever-so-slightly earlier on the brakes, or turned into the corner and took more of the inside line and thus left Clive a little more space, the incident could in all likelihood have been avoided, and I'd put money on Nicky blasting past Clive up the inside of Lesmo 2 and being let go ahead of Clive without any tagging.
As it turns out, Nicky got away absolutely scot-free, and Clive and Ken had the mutha-of-all-shunts!
Nicky: you need to be more aware of your surroundings, but also of your car placement when overtaking cars. When you plan an overtake, think where the other car will be when you're up the inside or round the outside of somebody, and give enough room to account for drift under braking or warp / lag. It will save you a lot of hassle in the future and set you up nicely for the 67 cars.
