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June 07, 2009, 09:37:17 PM +0100 - Jarama - UKGPL Season 17 (2009) Division 1
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 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
FullMetalGasket
 HikiWazaRacing
Honda RA300 F1 1967 2 +2.715
84.730mph
1 50:36.938
82.645mph
33 1:30.272
84.253mph
Firestone  
Samb
 Reed Racing
BRM P115 F1 1967 5 +3.134
84.336mph
2 +4.457
82.524mph
33 1:29.903
84.599mph
Goodyear  
JamesRye
 Reed Racing
BRM P115 F1 1967 6 +4.096
83.446mph
3 +1:04.257
80.932mph
33 1:32.121
82.562mph
Goodyear  
Doni Yourth
 
BRM P115 F1 1967 7 +4.962
82.660mph
4 +1:31.374
80.231mph
33 1:32.722
82.026mph
Goodyear  
Jack O'Ferrall
 Reed Racing
BRM P115 F1 1967 10 +7.516
80.428mph
5 +1L
79.514mph
32 1:33.230
81.580mph
Goodyear  
Phil Thornton
 Antipasti Racing
Ferrari 312 (1967) F1 1967 8 +5.136
82.504mph
6 +13.045
79.177mph
32 1:31.164
83.428mph
Firestone  
Michael Turner
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Ferrari 312 (1967) F1 1967 9 +5.910
81.817mph
7 +12L
76.150mph
21 1:33.408
81.424mph
accident
Firestone  
EvilClive
 HikiWazaRacing
Honda RA300 F1 1967 4 +2.925
84.532mph
8 +20L
80.558mph
13 1:30.764
83.796mph
Disco
Firestone  
Hristo Itchov
 HikiWazaRacing
Honda RA300 F1 1967 1 1:27.049
87.372mph
9 +31L
82.206mph
2 1:29.777
84.717mph
Disco
Firestone  
bernie
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 11 +12.129
76.687mph
10 +24.710
72.522mph
2 1:39.020
76.809mph
Disco
Goodyear  
Ken Murray
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Cooper T81b (Maserati) F1 1967 3 +2.878
84.576mph
11 +33L
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Disco
Firestone  

Moderator's Report

Division 1's visit to Jarama produced an upturn in the local scrap metal economy as several of the usual fast suspects again produced DNF's. Once again those drivers who showed consistant pace and tenacity were rewarded. Some other unfortunates suffered disco's, but enough of the unfairness of life in GPL.

The Division 1 title is still in the balance with 3 races to go and with two results to be dropped, things are getting very interesting at the top.

Although there were a couple of incidents and one was reported by a couple of very honest participants, there was no call for public floggings or retribution. So the result stands as posted and we move on to Moody Mosport.

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« on: June 04, 2009, 01:11:32 PM +0100 »

Division 1 - Round 7 - Jarama

Round 7 of the Season 17 Div 1 championship is at Jarama.  
This is  the first time Division 1 have been to this circuit, to the best of my knowledge.  
It's a bit like Monaco without the buildings, with very tight corners and some blind crests.
 

Don't forget, incident reports should be entered on the SRou system following the link at the bottom of the results table when it appears.  Race details below.

Div 1 Season 17 Round 7 is this Sunday at 9:00 p.m. London UK time.
Please be in VROC UKGPL chatroom by 8:55 p.m.
VROC and Race passwords: see above

Server 6.ukgpl
IP address ..... 80.5.200.198

Race date = 07-06-2009
Track = Jarama
Variant = 67F1
Damage Model = PRO
Qually time = 30 minutes.
Race length = 50 minutes (33 laps)

Password: see above

Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page.

Don't forget, incident reports should be entered on the SRou system following the link at the bottom of the results table when it appears.  

Pit Stop Times
Single Stop Time
 
Double Stop Time
BRM
No Stop
 
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Honda
Stop and Go
 
N/A
Cooper
5
 
N/A
Brabham
6
 
N/A
Ferrari
13
 
N/A
Eagle
15
 
N/A
Lotus
17
 
N/A


 First Pit Window is: 26 (to go on your pit board) to 17 (to go on your pit board)
 Second Pit Window is: 24 (to go on your pit board) to 9 (to go on your pit board)

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« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2009, 12:34:28 AM +0100 »

When this circuit was first released for GPL, I did a few laps to familiarize myself with it.  Bloody hopeless!  Sad  But, I've since tried it with some other sims and think I've found my sea legs with it.  For sure, tho, I'm going to lay on some pre-race trials to get a decent handle on it.  I highly recommend all other runners do likewise.

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« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2009, 02:21:26 AM +0100 »

When this circuit was first released for GPL, I did a few laps to familiarize myself with it.  Bloody hopeless!  Sad  But, I've since tried it with some other sims and think I've found my sea legs with it.  For sure, tho, I'm going to lay on some pre-race trials to get a decent handle on it.  I highly recommend all other runners do likewise.



I've only driven this once in oAo but I have good memories as it decided the championship in my favor.  Grin

Tricky track, but it has a nice rhythm even if it's kinda slugish, so patience is required. That and precision on entry to corners, especially T1 and last turn.
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« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2009, 02:28:44 AM +0100 »

If it's anything like Zandvoort, I should be in good shape! Smiley
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« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2009, 09:42:27 AM +0100 »

If it's anything like Zandvoort, I should be in good shape! Smiley

I'd go on and say it's like a crippled, flattened Zandy.
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« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2009, 12:57:08 PM +0100 »

Well,   its like Zandvoort if you think a lot of sand or dusty stuff about would make it the same.  Roll Eyes

But, I would doubt that a Zandy setup would do the business here as the bends are much tighter and don't flow ( IMHO) like the fast back section through the Dutch dunes.

Hristo's advice is prolly spot on, in that most of the bends need to be treated with a great deal of respect, or else they will bite back!!! Undecided
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« Reply #6 on: June 05, 2009, 08:35:50 PM +0100 »

Well,   its like Zandvoort if you think a lot of sand or dusty stuff about would make it the same.  Roll Eyes

But, I would doubt that a Zandy setup would do the business here as the bends are much tighter and don't flow ( IMHO) like the fast back section through the Dutch dunes.

Hristo's advice is prolly spot on, in that most of the bends need to be treated with a great deal of respect, or else they will bite back!!! Undecided

You're right, a Zandy setup won't work because most of Jarama corners are much less banked so the tyres get loaded differently. I can't really recall what would a good setup be for this one, but I suspect having a responsive front would help a lot. So probably a softer front than usual. And stable rear on exits so you can put the power down early. Tricky combination to achieve.  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #7 on: June 05, 2009, 10:07:43 PM +0100 »

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You're right, a Zandy setup won't work because most of Jarama corners are much less banked so the tyres get loaded differently. I can't really recall what would a good setup be for this one, but I suspect having a responsive front would help a lot. So probably a softer front than usual. And stable rear on exits so you can put the power down early. Tricky combination to achieve. 

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« Reply #8 on: June 06, 2009, 10:09:00 AM +0100 »

So, on the basis that the suspension and handling of a VW Polo is ideal, how do I set up my Honda to drive like a Polo???  Roll Eyes

Answers please on 27 sheets of A4 with diagrams and calculations of dynamic loading.  Undecided

Looks like the Glutbucket pit crew will be burning some midnight oil and we may even need to use Mabel's suspenders, instead of springs, on the front end to soften the ride. Grin Shocked
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« Reply #9 on: June 06, 2009, 11:15:57 AM +0100 »

I like the idea of mabels sussies , will they be used in bump or re -bound  Cheesy

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« Reply #10 on: June 06, 2009, 01:52:05 PM +0100 »

So, on the basis that the suspension and handling of a VW Polo is ideal, how do I set up my Honda to drive like a Polo???  Roll Eyes

Answers please on 27 sheets of A4 with diagrams and calculations of dynamic loading.  Undecided

Looks like the Glutbucket pit crew will be burning some midnight oil and we may even need to use Mabel's suspenders, instead of springs, on the front end to soften the ride. Grin Shocked

Wish I had the answer, Clive, but as you know I rarely practice. If I do before tomorrow I'll upload some of the setup work and link you.
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« Reply #11 on: June 06, 2009, 01:54:16 PM +0100 »

So, on the basis that the suspension and handling of a VW Polo is ideal, how do I set up my Honda to drive like a Polo???  Roll Eyes

Answers please on 27 sheets of A4 with diagrams and calculations of dynamic loading.  Undecided

Looks like the Glutbucket pit crew will be burning some midnight oil and we may even need to use Mabel's suspenders, instead of springs, on the front end to soften the ride. Grin Shocked

Wish I had the answer, Clive, but as you know I rarely practice. If I do before tomorrow I'll upload some of the setup work and link you.
What have I said about being cocky?

Unlikely I'll make this, as I have friends round and probably will still be recovering. Still a good way to ease the muscles though.
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« Reply #12 on: June 06, 2009, 03:16:28 PM +0100 »

Is there a way to lighten the tack asphalt , mines as black as a stick of spanish  , cant see a thing in front and its almost impossible to see any other cars on track .

The Papy original of Kyalami was dark , ( even that wasn't this bad )  some bright spark did an asphalt mip which lightend the black stuff , is there such a thing for Jarama Undecided

Am I the only one with this problem , the track does seem sort of  Nintendo -ish,  very poor grafix  Embarrassed

 
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« Reply #13 on: June 06, 2009, 04:13:49 PM +0100 »

It should look like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeS7j8fG-go

The lighter asphalt update seems to have disappeared with RSC, I could upload mine somewhere if no-one else has it.
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« Reply #14 on: June 06, 2009, 04:42:15 PM +0100 »

It seems that Bernie and me have the same problem. My tarmac is also very dark, Undecided certainly not as grey as that clip shows.

Might be nice if there is a simple update for that.
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