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July 21, 2009, 09:46:53 PM +0100 - East London - UKGPL Season 17 (2009)
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
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Paulo
 
BRM P261 (1965) F1 1965 1 50:17.635
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35 1:25.039
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Dunlop  
Lorenzo Galluzzi
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 2 +3.612
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35 1:25.353
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Dunlop  
Stefan Roess65
 
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 3 +40.914
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35 1:26.001
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Goodyear  
Hristo Itchov
 HikiWazaRacing
Brabham BT7 (Climax) F1 1965 4 +41.396
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35 1:25.859
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Dunlop  
Julien 65 Mondragon
 
Brabham BT7 (Climax) F1 1965 5 +43.289
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35 1:26.018
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Dunlop  
Clive Loynes
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 6 +47.414
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35 1:26.146
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Dunlop  
Thor Fischer 65
 
Honda RA272 F1 1965 7 +53.418
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35 1:26.338
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Goodyear  
Uwe Herrling65
 
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 8 +1:02.310
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35 1:26.547
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Dunlop  
EvilClive
 HikiWazaRacing
Honda RA272 F1 1965 9 +1:10.119
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35 1:26.452
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Goodyear  
JamesRye
 Reed Racing
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 10 +1:16.095
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35 1:26.684
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Dunlop  
fpolicardi
 Team7
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 11 +1L
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34 1:26.974
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Dunlop  
Turkey Machine
 Clark-Hill Racing
BRM P261 (1965) F1 1965 12 +29.515
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34 1:26.806
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Dunlop  
ACHIM KRAFT 65
 
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 13 +2L
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33 1:26.561
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Dunlop  
il_lupo_mannaro
 
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 14 +2:45.036
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33 1:29.055
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Dunlop  
Tom Schloss65
 
Cooper T77 (Climax) F1 1965 15 +4L
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31 1:27.833
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Dunlop  
Al Heller
 Clark-Hill Racing
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 16 +20L
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15 1:28.146
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Dunlop  
Billy Nobrakes
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 17 +21L
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14 1:30.100
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Goodyear  
MikeBeattie
 Drake Racing
Cooper T77 (Climax) F1 1965 18 +28L
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7 1:27.114
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Dunlop  
GPLRACER6
 
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 19 DNS ---
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Goodyear  
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F1 1965
1:25.039
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Paulo
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« on: July 12, 2009, 03:05:00 PM +0100 »

Here is the race thread for GRID ONE. Your team captain (Hristo) will be allocating chassis and we'll keep this post up to date.
GPL Racers race thread is located at http://forum.gplracer.eu/topic.php?id=630&

Please be in IGOR UKGPL chatroom passworded 'Savage' by 19:20GMT, (You will need to set up a channel called ukgpl if you haven't already done so)

Server : GPLRACER6
Password : challengeone
 
Race date = 21-07-2009
Track = East London
Time = 19:30GMT / 20:30 BST UK time (note earlier start time) - please be in IGOR by 8.20pm
Variant = 65F1 (using the updated 65 Mod)
Damage Model = PRO
Qually time = 30 minutes (server will start at 35 mins)
Race length = 35 laps (extra points for finishers)

Download the track from here; http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=1079

Chassis assignments per grid:
2 * FERRARI
2 * LOTUS
1 * BRM
1 * BT11
1 * HONDA
1 * COOPER
1 * BT7

Points Scoring (per grid);
Standard Points Positions 1-19:
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30 - 25 - 21 - 18 - 16 - 14 - 13 - 12 - 11 - 10 - 9 - 8 - 7 - 6 - 5 - 4 - 3 - 2 - 1
Drivers MUST complete 60% of race distance (21 laps) to score points

Extra Points:
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3 Extra Points for each driver who can finish the race (being lapped still counts)
10 Team Points for the whole Team (GPLRACER / UKGPL), if all drivers of the team cross the finish line.

The results of both grids will be combined to produce the overall winners.

CHASSIS ASSIGNMENTS - GRID ONE
Hristo(C).............BT7
Mike B................Cooper
Jethro................BRM
Clive..................Honda
Fulvio.................Ferrari
James R..............Lotus
Al Heller..............Lotus
Billy NB...............BT11
Lorenzo...............Ferrari
(updated 21/7/09)
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« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2009, 03:32:42 PM +0100 »

I see we're using a different points system than we do in the Interleague races, but I hope it works out to a similar result overall. I don't know well some of the drivers on our team here, so correct me if any of you think the assignments are unreasonable.

Apparently the emphasize is on reaching the finish and the more of us that reach it, the better. And if most of us can do it, I think it doesn't matter much if we win or even have drivers on the podium, because of the additional bonus for finishing and especially, if all of us finis.

I tried to stick to what some drivers' desired chassis are.

CHASSIS ASSIGNMENTS - GRID ONE
Hristo(C).............BT7
Mike B................Cooper
Jethro................BRM
Clive..................Honda
Fulvio.................Ferrari
James R..............Lotus
Mark Minardi........BT11
Al Heller..............Lotus
Billy NB...............Ferrari

Well, let me know what you think. And if we have potential reserves, I'd like to know in advance, if possible.

-=Hristo=-
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« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2009, 04:37:12 PM +0100 »

Looks ok, I'm happy with the Honda for this race. Wink
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« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2009, 05:56:48 PM +0100 »

Looks ok, I'm happy with the Honda for this race. Wink

To be honest, you never had much choice, Evil! You know you can't go against what pleases HER!  Grin
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« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2009, 09:30:49 PM +0100 »

OK, I think then 65s are different, basically they are mechanically safe and are highly unlikely to grenade. Hence you don't need the good drivers to get them to the finish.

I've just done a race with the ADC and set a 1.26.8 with the Cooper, with a theoretical 1.26.3 as my possible best. However in the same race Paul Skingley did a 1.25.8 with the Ferrari !! Having raced with Paul a lot, would consider us to be reasonably similar, so it shows that the quick car is worth 1 sec per lap.

So I think Hristo you should put who you think are the quick guys in the quick cars for this event.  It will make a difference.
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« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2009, 10:38:09 PM +0100 »

A lotus!, am I allowed to drive this car (being in Reed and all)  Grin

looking forward to this one and I'm fine with trying a different car.

Jim
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« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2009, 10:47:15 PM +0100 »

Hristo / Mike,
I'm probably the slowest UKGPL driver - with the fastest car. Tactically, I'd agree with Mike & give our best drivers the faster chassis.
I did some laps yesterday in the BT7 - just in the 1.30's & the my regular (BRM) which was over 1 second faster. On that basis I'm quite happy to swap the BT7 or Cooper with either of you.
No prob. running the Fezza. Your allocation otherwise looks about right. Appreciate you may not want a game of musical chairs - I'll go with whatever you decide.
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« Reply #7 on: July 13, 2009, 05:58:34 AM +0100 »

I disagree on putting fastest drivers in the faster cars and slow drivers in slower cars. Think about it. It's what we did in the early days of the Interleague too. You end up with a winning car, for sure and possibly top 2 for the team, but then there's a massive gap down to the other team drivers. They end up at the end of top 10 or most likely, outside of it. From my experience the most points are won by drivers of a team that finish inside the top 5, preferably 3rd to 8th.

For sure, there will be someone from the opposition doing times that are unmatchable for any of us, but a single driver won't make a difference, even if he laps us all. My aim by giving faster cars to slower drivers and vice versa is to keep all of us close together and into the top 10, so it will be difficult for the opposition to go through us. We don't have to worry if they have someone leading or even top 2.

Besides, I'm pretty confident in the BT7 and with a good tow it can go fast. 1:26 is more than enough for a good result, Mike, I'm hoping I could keep into the 26s as well.

Still, if any of you does some practice, please post your best times. It will give a good picture of what's to be expected and it might help refine the chassis choices.

The main thing, anyway, is to reach the finish so we get more bonus points.
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« Reply #8 on: July 13, 2009, 10:24:28 AM +0100 »

A lotus!, am I allowed to drive this car (being in Reed and all)  Grin

looking forward to this one and I'm fine with trying a different car.

Jim

There is a loophole within Reed Jim, and that is, yes you can drive a different chassis, but only for Interleague events when facing another league. For sole UKGPL events, it's the BRM, BRM and BRM  Grin.
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« Reply #9 on: July 13, 2009, 10:20:34 PM +0100 »

IMHO  If you are going to post lap times it will be meaningless unless we know what fuel you were carrying as in my experience it makes one hell of a difference in the 65's.
I can squeeze another second a lap  easily when I reduce fuel to "3 lap qually" against the same setup for 25 laps. But maybe that's just me  Undecided
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« Reply #10 on: July 13, 2009, 10:53:41 PM +0100 »

Nope, this time it isn't just you. A good second a lap is lost carrying fuel.
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« Reply #11 on: July 14, 2009, 08:33:23 AM +0100 »

lol that makes a change!! Roll Eyes
In that case I'm just getting into low 1:26's or high 1:25's with 40 laps of fuel...not sure if that is good bad or indifferent in the Waza.
Either setup or driving needs some tweaking as I know I am losing time in a couple of places, so 1:24's are a poss.
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« Reply #12 on: July 14, 2009, 01:42:47 PM +0100 »

IMHO  If you are going to post lap times it will be meaningless unless we know what fuel you were carrying as in my experience it makes one hell of a difference in the 65's.
I can squeeze another second a lap  easily when I reduce fuel to "3 lap qually" against the same setup for 25 laps. But maybe that's just me  Undecided


Good point, when I mentioned posting laptimes, I meant from qualifying runs.
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« Reply #13 on: July 14, 2009, 01:55:55 PM +0100 »

You’re not ready to concede yet then?

By the way Evil, I’m coming down to Bristol on Thursday and I’m bringing a soldering iron.  We need to dig Nat out of hiding.
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« Reply #14 on: July 14, 2009, 05:40:12 PM +0100 »

Hmmm not sure that I have a large enough shovel!!

He appears to be very elusive and under deep cover lol.

Maybe a few posts on the forums will lure him into the open...... that and the seductive smell of a pint??
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