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  • S17 Monza: August 04, 2009
August 04, 2009, 09:37:51 PM +0100 - Monza (Full 10km) - UKGPL Season 17 (2009)
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Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
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Grzegorz Lenarciak
 
Lotus 49b (DFV) F1 1969 6 +1.723
160.186mph
1 1:25:39.194
156.714mph
36 2:20.243
159.521mph
Firestone  
Al Heller
 Clark-Hill Racing
Brabham BT26a (DFV) F1 1969 7 +1.857
160.033mph
2 +20.548
156.090mph
36 2:20.540
159.184mph
Goodyear  
Hristo Itchov
 HikiWazaRacing
Ferrari 312 (1969) F1 1969 8 +2.542
159.252mph
3 +29.773
155.811mph
36 2:18.666
161.336mph
Firestone  
Geoff65
 Clark-Hill Racing
Lotus 49b (DFV) F1 1969 12 +4.046
157.565mph
4 +30.042
155.803mph
36 2:20.291
159.467mph
Firestone  
API
 Team Oldie Racing
Lotus 49b (DFV) F1 1969 9 +3.564
158.102mph
5 +51.822
155.149mph
36 2:21.840
157.725mph
Firestone  
BookieW
 HikiWazaRacing
Matra MS80 (DFV) F1 1969 18 +11.750
149.456mph
6 +2L
147.665mph
34 2:28.593
150.557mph
Dunlop  
Clive Loynes
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Matra MS80 (DFV) F1 1969 2 +0.153
162.007mph
7 +21L
157.080mph
15 2:19.466
160.410mph
Disco
Dunlop  
EvilClive
 HikiWazaRacing
Lotus 49b (DFV) F1 1969 1 2:17.938
162.187mph
8 +22L
158.616mph
14 2:18.627
161.381mph
Disco
Firestone  
STEFAN STEIN69
 
Lotus 49b (DFV) F1 1969 17 +10.044
151.179mph
9 +23L
148.160mph
13 2:26.038
153.191mph
Disco
Firestone  
vosblod
 Clark-Hill Racing
Lotus 49b (DFV) F1 1969 11 +3.994
157.623mph
10 +24L
150.896mph
12 2:21.722
157.857mph
Disco
Firestone  
Tifosi312
 
Ferrari 312 (1969) F1 1969 4 +0.784
161.270mph
11 +29L
157.750mph
7 2:20.235
159.531mph
Disco
Firestone  
MikeBeattie
 Drake Racing
McLaren M7 (DFV) F1 1969 3 +0.593
161.493mph
12 +32.636
152.729mph
7 2:20.269
159.492mph
Disco
Goodyear  
Mike Ruel
 
BRM P126/139 F1 1969 20 13 +31L
140.581mph
5 2:28.345
150.809mph
Disco
Dunlop  
maestro57
 Black Night Racing
Matra MS80 (DFV) F1 1969 13 +4.524
157.037mph
14 +33L
147.133mph
3 2:25.597
153.655mph
Disco
Dunlop  
Podkrecony_Ziutek
 Clark-Hill Racing
Lotus 49b (DFV) F1 1969 5 +1.708
160.203mph
15 +36L
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accident
Firestone  
FullMetalGasket
 HikiWazaRacing
BRM P126/139 F1 1969 15 +5.880
155.556mph
16
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Disco
Dunlop  
Ruud Savelkoul
 
Matra MS80 (DFV) F1 1969 16 +7.715
153.596mph
17
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0 ---
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Disco
Dunlop  
ACHIM KRAFT_69
 
Lotus 49b (DFV) F1 1969 14 +5.265
156.224mph
18
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0 ---
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Disco
Firestone  
Turkey Machine
 Clark-Hill Racing
Lotus 49b (DFV) F1 1969 10 +3.898
157.730mph
19 DNS ---
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Firestone  
6 UKGPL
 
Lotus 49b (DFV) F1 1969 19 20 ---
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Firestone  
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« Reply #45 on: August 05, 2009, 12:37:56 AM +0100 »

I don't remember who said what, and i'm sure people of your league are very nice.

Lets forget that incident and after all, i did 1.15.0 (ok with draft), it will be the good thing tonight!

2:15 I suppose you mean and that's definitelly D1 material!  Grin

I couldn't crack 18s and that's with a slipstream, lol.

Paul, Clive, Clive and some guy I don't know (G.L.) were battling together and that allowed me to catch up after messing up Para on lap 1. Then we had endless number of slipstreaming battles lap after lap. Eventually it led to a collision between Clive and Paul, but Clive was able to continue and soon caught up with us.

I hit the wall to hard on the exit of Lesmo 1 when we had 23 laps to go and got a puncture, which was eventually losing me 4 seconds a lap (that's about a second per each proper right hander). But the two Clives wrecked each other, so I inherited the lead for a while, until the others catch up.

On the last lap I was running 3rd and Geoff went through, but I got under his slipstream and took 3rd back after he sort of let me have it.  Tongue

Very good fun, but I'd really prefer a shorter race for such a track if we're to have fun. It was quite zzz to do 20 laps on my own. One other thing is, it should be intermediate damage with shift-r allowed. It's not for points or anything, so I don't see reason to have pro damage and frustrate people who crash out early.

Great fun with the slipstream anyway!

-=Hristo=-

P.S. I had 2.75 front wing and 1.25 rear on the Ferrari, but was still unable to pass a Matra in its slipstream! Wasn't expecting such a difference.  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #46 on: August 05, 2009, 12:42:05 AM +0100 »

Grats to Grzegorz Lenarciak.

AH! That's the winner's name, yes, congrats! I don't think I can memorize your name though, sorry.  Wink

Apologies to anyone that found the server full. I didn't think these summer races would prove so popular and due to holidays we are currently down to one IGOR server.

About time someone breaks the code for the 20 ppl server host limit too.  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #47 on: August 05, 2009, 12:54:43 AM +0100 »

Very good fun, but I'd really prefer a shorter race for such a track if we're to have fun. It was quite zzz to do 20 laps on my own. One other thing is, it should be intermediate damage with shift-r allowed. It's not for points or anything, so I don't see reason to have pro damage and frustrate people who crash out early.
Blame me for any shortcomings  Hit with a wet fish. I came up with the summer stuff to try different things (wait till the next one  Evil), so an endurance race seemed different. My reasoning for PRO was to introduce the unknown. If we had a reset we might as well set it to 50 or 150 laps, it would just be a case of last man to fall asleep.
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« Reply #48 on: August 05, 2009, 01:24:28 AM +0100 »

Blame me for any shortcomings  Hit with a wet fish. I came up with the summer stuff to try different things (wait till the next one  Evil), so an endurance race seemed different. My reasoning for PRO was to introduce the unknown. If we had a reset we might as well set it to 50 or 150 laps, it would just be a case of last man to fall asleep.

Ah, OK, I suppose you want to test our endurance and level of madness. Bring it on then!  alien
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« Reply #49 on: August 05, 2009, 06:55:16 AM +0100 »

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P.S. I had 2.75 front wing and 1.25 rear on the Ferrari, but was still unable to pass a Matra in its slipstream! Wasn't expecting such a difference.

wondering if I am the only using more front then rear wings.. good to know I am not.
My Ferrari served max topspeed inside slipstream behind an Matras of 321kmh , during my offline test here.
without any car in front 296kmh  (PB still pur 2-18-35 ) .. whats yours have been Hristo ?
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« Reply #50 on: August 05, 2009, 08:09:52 AM +0100 »


Apologies to anyone that found the server full. I didn't think these summer races would prove so popular and due to holidays we are currently down to one IGOR server.

I had Gladys warmed up and ready to go but when I asked in the chat room if we would all fit on one server nobody paid any attention.

At that point there were 18 in chat and I could see that a number of people were not there who I expected to race.  Since there was no pw people could also join directly, plus the possibility of passing trade, so it was clear that it would be full.

My internet connection would not be up to running a server plus my racing on another so when everyone just started piling in I had to shut Gladys down and get in there myself.

As for the race it was great fun but Evil and I didn't take each other out, as H has suggested, we had help.  Grin

As we approached the pits we found Stefan Stein's Lotus, stationary and sideways across the track.  LOL  He had run into the end of the pit wall at full chat.  I had wondered how many people had run into the darn thing whilst trying to read their pit board.  Anyway, by the time I could see him it was too late to miss him.

Evil lost a couple of wheels but I was able to carry on but the impact had convinced the engine that it was sick and so I pulled over.

Shame, because I don’t often find myself in a position to put one over on Hristo or Evil but my setup was giving me a definite edge.  LOL  Most of the time they pulled out of my slip stream and then went backwards.  Very reassuring. Grin

I never found anyone to give me a tow but I think I might match Gerard’s 2:15 if I could get tucked in behind someone.

Thanks for the fun!
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« Reply #51 on: August 05, 2009, 09:01:55 AM +0100 »

Got taken out at the end of L1. Was quite suprise as it was Mike B who just turned into me  Shocked

Shame, as I was already halfway up the field in my green boat when it happened . Looked set to be an interesting race  Sad
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« Reply #52 on: August 05, 2009, 09:40:28 AM +0100 »

That was a ball-breaker!. 80 odd minutes of plodding round on my own after an unscheduled excursion to the beach off Parabolica on L1, when the brakes refused to work and felt like someone had forgotten to put pads in the calipers. and 6 minutes of heavy drafting and tomfoolery when I managed to see another car. Traded blows in the 10ths of seconds with Al Heller, pinching 6-7/10ths here and there, with Al responding and taking a similar margin back, for what seemed like an eternity. The margin hung around 11-12 seconds for around about 12-15 laps until the fuel weight started to come off, and I could squeeze out a short run 2:21 and eventually the pitboard showed Al was only 8 seconds distant. Then I started seeing skid marks in the high speed braking areas.....I thought I may have been pulling in chunks of time on someone that was having difficulties. I was correct as with 3 laps left, Hristo's Fezza, wounded by a touch on the wall and a slow-leaking left front tyre, hove into view. I set my fastest lap 2:20.5 on lap 32, just catching a sniff of Hristo's draft........finally catching up at the Parabolica on the last lap. I wasn't intending to pass him there, but his deflating tyre caused him to slow and understeer wide....leaving me the inside line to exit ahead and in 3rd place. He promptly camped in my draft and shadowed me along the straight, onto the banking.....where he wound the Fezza up on the last chute
to the final strech of banking. I elected to hold the tighter, shorter low line as the car had driven that line well for the entire race, and as Hristo had the slingshot from the draft I thought it better to make him go the long way around. I had to lift slightly crossing the 'hump' onto the banking, to avoid climbing up over the centre line and wrecking us both, in the end unable to peg him back enough in the race for the line....Congratulations to the podium, you're all men of steel. I'm happy with my last-to-fourth drive, consistent and with very few mistakes.
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« Reply #53 on: August 05, 2009, 11:11:43 AM +0100 »

We don't normally load fun race replays to Mike's server re space issues but if you want the replay you can get it here; http://www.megaupload.com/?d=NIGOTUQO

Re the race server being chocka. Part of the driving force behind these races, as well as providing some fun for UKGPL members, was to encourage others to participate who might well then decide to join us. Pleased to see some new faces already. So I'm reluctant to start passwording them.
Next time, if we look full up in chat, I'll run my home PC if there isn't an available server for a second grid. We need to avoid spending 30 minutes sorting out who goes where though - there was one race where we had one server full and the back-up only had three contestants. Maybe we just say split alphabetically by chat name? 
Nice to be victims of our own success though  Grin
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« Reply #54 on: August 05, 2009, 11:18:51 AM +0100 »

Spent about an hour of that race shouting "Oh give it a rest Geoff!" at my prib screen Cheesy. I was running in the last podium spot & Mr Heard was pursuing me relentlessly about 10 secs behind. I knew that once he caught up to my slipstream I was the proverbial cooked goose so had to drive out of my skin just to maintain the gap, but lap after lap we nicked/gained time without either of us having any spins. Great stuff. In the end, I reckon I was only saved by an ailing Hristo whose damaged Ferrari gave me a enough of a tow boost to save me from Geoff's clutches.

During the 1st part of the race had a great 3-way battle with Tim & Grzegorz. Was lucky to escape any damage after clonking a spinning Tim at Para pretty hard. After that we both recovered & were enjoying an epic battle until Tim's engine blowup spoilt the fun. Anyway congrats to Grzegorz & all the drivers who made it to the end of this marathon. As ever, thanks to the Clark-Hill team for the setups & advice Smiley. Oh & thanks to the server for giving me an authentic 1969 psychedelic colour scheme - bright orange brabham & lime green helmet nuke Tongue

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« Reply #55 on: August 05, 2009, 01:30:03 PM +0100 »

Well I really flew at the 10K..... about 200 ft above the North banking that is  Wink

It all went wrong into Grande curve on Lap 1, as I left room for the Matra on the inside and ended up rail running my way round the turn. A few laps later I had a coming together at the exit of the South Turn when the car on the inside moved out, probably the G forces on the exit and we both had a spin down the Start straight. I had speed and was able to catch the cars in front, Al & his trio, as mentioned above, and got past after a Lotus spun in Parabolica. However Al was able to slipstream up to me along with a Lotus. Entering the North Curve on lap 9 I ws in the lead and looked in my mirrors to see a car a 100 yds or so behind. What I didn't know was that Al was right behind me on the inside and drew alongside as we rounded the curve. Thinking it was All Clear I started to come off the high line as we approached the end of the bend and then BOOM !! Sky - Trees - track - guard rail - sky - trees - trees - trees -earth !  From you post Al I assume I didn't compromise your race. My fault for assuming I was all alone

Is it possible to get a radar display for GPL ??  Pribula is too hard to read at 191 mph  Grin
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« Reply #56 on: August 05, 2009, 01:37:16 PM +0100 »

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P.S. I had 2.75 front wing and 1.25 rear on the Ferrari, but was still unable to pass a Matra in its slipstream! Wasn't expecting such a difference.

wondering if I am the only using more front then rear wings.. good to know I am not.
My Ferrari served max topspeed inside slipstream behind an Matras of 321kmh , during my offline test here.
without any car in front 296kmh  (PB still pur 2-18-35 ) .. whats yours have been Hristo ?

Not checked exactly, but something similar, yes. Nice pb, btw. Smiley
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« Reply #57 on: August 05, 2009, 03:26:12 PM +0100 »

LOL

Never thought that I would ever be able to say this but the diff on my Matra was 15/85/3  Cheesy 

And she was flying!


Wings are for whimps!!!!
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« Reply #58 on: August 05, 2009, 03:33:39 PM +0100 »

Maybe we just say split alphabetically by chat name? 
Nice to be victims of our own success though  Grin

Can't you hijack GPLRACERS grid system?  They are on holiday!
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« Reply #59 on: August 05, 2009, 03:43:27 PM +0100 »

Maybe we just say split alphabetically by chat name? 
Nice to be victims of our own success though  Grin
Can't you hijack GPLRACERS grid system?  They are on holiday!
Ideal for something like this but srou is not set up for it. Also we don't want to force people to register at UKGPL although we'd like them too  Wink
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