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  • S17 Jops Siffert: August 18, 2009
August 18, 2009, 09:41:18 PM +0100 - Jops Siffert - UKGPL Season 17 (2009)
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
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Hristo Itchov
 HikiWazaRacing
Brabham BT7 (Climax) F1 1965 2 +0.181
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1 36:14.985
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24 1:28.958
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Dunlop  
MikeBeattie
 Drake Racing
Brabham BT7 (Climax) F1 1965 1 1:29.272
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2 +1.564
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24 1:29.269
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Dunlop  
EvilClive
 HikiWazaRacing
Brabham BT7 (Climax) F1 1965 3 +0.445
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3 +25.709
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24 1:29.805
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Dunlop  
Samb
 Reed Racing
Brabham BT7 (Climax) F1 1965 4 +0.903
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4 +38.775
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24 1:30.190
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Dunlop  
Podkrecony_Ziutek
 Clark-Hill Racing
Brabham BT7 (Climax) F1 1965 7 +1.464
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5 +54.119
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24 1:30.994
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Dunlop  
Clive Loynes
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Brabham BT7 (Climax) F1 1965 5 +0.989
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6 +55.524
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24 1:30.630
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Dunlop  
NickyIckx
 Antipasti Racing
Brabham BT7 (Climax) F1 1965 8 +1.560
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7 +1:03.603
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24 1:30.851
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Dunlop  
robert john65
 
Brabham BT7 (Climax) F1 1965 12 +3.954
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8 +1:16.354
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24 1:31.107
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Dunlop  
Steven Foster
 
Brabham BT7 (Climax) F1 1965 10 +2.257
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9 +1:18.501
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24 1:31.553
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Dunlop  
Al Heller
 Clark-Hill Racing
Brabham BT7 (Climax) F1 1965 11 +2.746
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10 +1L
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23 1:32.338
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Dunlop  
maestro57
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT7 (Climax) F1 1965 9 +2.047
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11 +10.220
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23 1:32.412
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Dunlop  
vosblod
 Clark-Hill Racing
Brabham BT7 (Climax) F1 1965 14 +4.377
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12 +58.474
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23 1:32.752
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Dunlop  
Billy Nobrakes
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT7 (Climax) F1 1965 13 +4.361
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13 +2L
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22 1:33.725
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Dunlop  
FullMetalGasket
 HikiWazaRacing
Brabham BT7 (Climax) F1 1965 6 +1.439
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14 +10L
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14 1:30.477
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Dunlop  
norbert
 Antipasti Racing
Brabham BT7 (Climax) F1 1965 15 +6.096
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15 +22L
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2 1:36.588
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Dunlop  
Easy Rider
 
Brabham BT7 (Climax) F1 1965 16 +39.420
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16 DNS ---
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Dunlop  
6 UKGPL
 
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Author Topic: Summer Surprise - Jops Siffert - Aug 18  (Read 9086 times)
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« on: August 05, 2009, 12:30:50 PM +0100 »

Here is something I thought of while drunk.
How about a single chassis series? Or perhaps a one off practise race?
Personally I tend to bump into things and mumble a lot but I think we should try Mike’s alcohol inspired idea…

The track comes highly recommended from an evil source but we’re going to squeeze out the ‘surprise’ a while longer to build up your anticipation. Watch this space…
UPDATE : all details now posted, but bear in mind this is a surprise race so there still might be something up the sleeve  Wink

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Race date = 18-08-2009
Track =  Jops Siffert
Variant = 65 mod
Time = 20:00 GMT / 21:00 BST UK time
Damage Model = INT
Qually time = 30 mins
Race length = Long - 24 laps

Chassis assignments: single chassis, BT7

Track downloadable here; http://www.f1legends.ch/update/circuits/jops.php
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« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2009, 01:11:39 PM +0100 »

That's really quite pretty  Cool

Hmm, random 65 chassis......

I'm betting Cooper  lol
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« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2009, 01:18:26 PM +0100 »

Err, sorry to dissapoint, but this track has one major flaw. The jump on the back section, which is immediately followed by a right turn. It is very hard to get this consistantly right and we found in the ADC that it becomes a lottery and it's been dropped from our calendar.

It's a real pity as the rest of the track is great

However, I'll leave you to discover this for yourselves
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« Reply #3 on: August 05, 2009, 01:21:55 PM +0100 »

Err, sorry to dissapoint, but this track has one major flaw. The jump on the back section, which is immediately followed by a right turn. It is very hard to get this consistantly right and we found in the ADC that it becomes a lottery and it's been dropped from our calendar.
I guess there's no point courting disaster and it's not too late to change the venue.
Feedback from others once you've tested it would be appreciated...
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« Reply #4 on: August 05, 2009, 01:27:23 PM +0100 »

Is this true in 65s Mike?  Sounds like Mosport in a 67 Lotus.

Think I have only ever done it in a 67 BRM and that was a complete lottery all the way round.

Nice looking place though.
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« Reply #5 on: August 05, 2009, 01:37:51 PM +0100 »

65s are much the same as the rest. You just end up taking the jump without as much brake.

What you do is try and arrive at the crest of the hill with the car pointing slightly in towards the right of the track. The car jumps and lands pointing towards the apex and you are bang on line. If you get this right there is a huge time advantage. However, it's hard to replicate lap after lap.

The safe option is to brake before the crest of the hill, but then you lose time.

It means you can't have a full out race
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« Reply #6 on: August 05, 2009, 02:00:03 PM +0100 »

Well, not really Mosport, but sounds to me it's similar to the tank trap of Monhtlery. Wink You brake much earlier there, so you don't crash out jumping off the crests.

Although a risky pile up area, it wasn't enough to deter us from racing it many times. As long as everyone knows what to expect and slow down accordingly, I don't see how it is a problem. You don't kill yourself just becase there's the slight chance to gain some time by going faster, lol.

I haven't driven this track, but if all it takes is slowing down to go around safely, then I don't mind.
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« Reply #7 on: August 05, 2009, 03:21:30 PM +0100 »

Mike could have a point because whilst H can afford to take it easy on one corner, the bloke that he has just lapped will probably ram him as he slows for the tricky bit.

Best racing is always on the simplest track.

How about if you picked a gutless heap like the BT7?

I will try it out tonight.
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« Reply #8 on: August 05, 2009, 05:51:50 PM +0100 »

 Wink Cool single chassis .. very nice ... would be top of the world doing that with the Lotus63 outa 69mod  Grin
reckon not a big number of drivers are sort of realy familiar with that car. for sure big fun...
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« Reply #9 on: August 05, 2009, 06:11:55 PM +0100 »

OK well to give you some idea my best 65 times are :-

BRM 1.29.1

Cooper 1.29.8

See how consistant you can be running at that pace Smiley
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« Reply #10 on: August 05, 2009, 06:14:47 PM +0100 »

I notice that Evil registered a time there in April.

Very suspicious.
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« Reply #11 on: August 05, 2009, 08:08:04 PM +0100 »

I notice that Evil registered a time there in April.

Very suspicious.


Does nothing escape your beady eye Loynes!!!!  eek shifty

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« Reply #12 on: August 05, 2009, 09:24:26 PM +0100 »

I notice that Evil registered a time there in April.

Very suspicious.

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« Reply #13 on: August 05, 2009, 10:30:56 PM +0100 »

Errr.............former boss?Huh

There is a vacancy at SBRC if you are interested?   Grin
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« Reply #14 on: August 05, 2009, 11:30:26 PM +0100 »

Just downloaded this track and tried it in a 67.  Really liked it.  The "May" turn on the back of the track is a bit like T8 at Mosport.  Got to get the braking right but it is no harder than Mosport (mind you I always go wide in T8 at Mosport at least once or twice per race Sad).  If we didn't consider this track because of "May" then we'd have to consider dropping Mosport because of T8 (not an option IMO).
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