Season 18 Amateurs Trophy Registration

[john roberts]

Jethro learned to hate the BT7 sound creeping in around and deafening his BRM every time, lol.   It's perhaps the only advantage of the little beetle.  

*wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww*

(My attempt on impersonating the sound of a BT7 humming in your ears)

more like a wasp in a jam jar

john

[Turkey Machine]

Jethro learned to hate the BT7 sound creeping in around and deafening his BRM every time, lol.   It's perhaps the only advantage of the little beetle.  

*wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww*

(My attempt on impersonating the sound of a BT7 humming in your ears)

more like a wasp in a jam jar

john

It was actually the Cooper I hated hearing whilst I had the BRM, but since that and the BT7 have the same 16 valve 1.5 litre V8 engine, they're both as whiney as each other. Very distracting to hear either car behind you and know there's somebody much faster than you waiting for an opportunity to get by.

[Asbjeurn Tverberg]

It was actually the Cooper I hated hearing whilst I had the BRM, but since that and the BT7 have the same 16 valve 1.5 litre V8 engine, they're both as whiney as each other. Very distracting to hear either car behind you and know there's somebody much faster than you waiting for an opportunity to get by.

If you're not having me behind you, that is. Then you've probably passed me, and I will disappear in the distance behind you.

[b_1_rd]

I've voted <75% to get on track when I get chance.  I don't expect it will be very often in this one, but see how it goes.  Anything but the lotus and BT11 for chassis please.  Been there done that for now.

[Asbjeurn Tverberg]

OK, I'll have a go at the Amateurs this season, as long as I can drive my beloved Ferrari. Like you, Steve, I voted < 75 % attendance, as I don't know if I'll be able to meet up at every race. It should be easier in the autumn, though, since this season doesn't have all those holidays as spring does here in Norway.

[natan5]

Im in
Didnt decided wich car .
Maybe Fez os BRM

[Hristo Itchov]

A question about car choice: are we going to be assigned chassis by the moderator and stick to those chassis for the rest of the season or is there some freedom involved?

[miner2049er]

They will be assigned by the mods for the season.

The only changes will be if somebody is either winning races easily or somebody is clearly not able to make the pace (myself excluded)

Allocations are being held up slightly by about a dozen drivers from last season who have not yet registered but I have contacted them and asked them to register ASAP.

With or without them we will be done early this week so people changing from last season can practise with their new chariots.

[Hristo Itchov]

They will be assigned by the mods for the season.

The only changes will be if somebody is either winning races easily or somebody is clearly not able to make the pace (myself excluded)

Allocations are being held up slightly by about a dozen drivers from last season who have not yet registered but I have contacted them and asked them to register ASAP.

With or without them we will be done early this week so people changing from last season can practise with their new chariots.

OK, thanks, because I'm seeing lots of people saying what car they want to drive and wasn't sure what's going on.

[b_1_rd]

Is it possible to reserve Geoff a place while he moves house? I'm sure he will be along just as soon as he has his internet up again.

[vosblod]

Is it possible to reserve Geoff a place while he moves house? I'm sure he will be along just as soon as he has his internet up again.

Registration stays open all season although he may end up being put in as a reserve if we get 19. Can't see anyone missing out on a drive

[EvilClive]

As I have just realised that this series starts in one weeks time!!!! Has any decision been made about chassis allocation ??  or can we start applying wax to my Waza's???

[miner2049er]

OK then chaps, I have drawn up some chassis allocations (along with other mods) for the two 65 divisions. So far we have 14 drivers registered for Full Time Amateurs and 3 registered for Part Time places.

Where possible I have tried to accomodate your requested chassis but if for any reason you are not happy with your chosen chariot, address your concerns here, in a PM to myself or of course to Phil if need be.

Phil Thornton- Ferrari
Hristo- BT7
Evil Clive- Honda
Ken Murray- BT11
John Roberts- BT11
Samb- BRM
FullMetal- Honda
MikeBeattie- Cooper
TurkeyMachine- BT11
FPolicardi- BT11
JamesRye- BRM
Miner2049er- Lotus
Clutch- BT11
Podkreceny- Lotus
Steve B_1_rd- Ferrari
Natan- choice between the Honda or the BRM again

[Hristo Itchov]

I want the Cooper.

You have no idea of the effort BT7 requires and therefore impact on health in the long run over a season, just to be able to barely keep up the pace, especially on faster tracks. It's not that I can't do it, I just refuse to do it anymore. The way it is any chance of having fun is turned into plain masochism.  

Considering the number of divisions (and leagues) I'm constantly handicapped in, it's a lot more than I'm willing to sacrifice for. In fact, sacrifices for me ended with last season. You can only do it for so long.

Of course I could slow down and settle for, say, 4th, but is that the target of handicapping? As a middle ground I would accept to drive the BT7 on slower tracks, if that suits you.

-=Hristo=-

[miner2049er]

I can see your point, having to drive the slowest car, but the fact is that you are the fastest driver (IMO) so in an allocated division it makes sense for that to be the case.

If I were to allocate you the Cooper, I would also have to reallocate other drivers such as Mike who also has the Cooper, and the knock on effect is that people in the BT11 would then perhaps want to jump to a faster chassis too, until we get to the point where people in the Lotus (like me) have no faster chassis to go to. I can't see me being competitive with your times even in the BT7 let alone the Cooper, but then I don't expect to be winning in Amateurs anyway. The goal for me is to limit the number of times I get lapped and to try and beat my team mates.

I see your point of taking the Cooper at faster tracks but I don't think it is fair to change the division rules for just one driver, that way I could have 17 upset drivers as oppose to just one.

Looking at last season you still managed to win 3 races and would have won 4 (more than anybody else) but for the place penalties you received at Albi, and the championship was decided at the final race which suggests to me that we had an evenly balanced allocation (for the most part). Promoting you up a chassis would not I think be fair to the rest of the division.

This season's calendar has a couple of tracks that would hamper the BT7, Solitude (which also has a twisty section as you know), Kyalami where you qualified 2nd, Spa and Monza, but with the 2 worst results dropped that evens it out a little bit.

I would hate to lose you from the division as I guess would a few others but to change the rules for one driver does not seem fair either.

I welcome feedback from yourself and others.