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August 31, 2009, 09:40:17 PM +0100 - Kyalami (1961-67) - UKGPL Season 17 (2009)
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
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john roberts
 
Lotus 49 (Cosworth) F1 1967 3 +0.352
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1 32:28.693
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24 1:19.976
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Firestone  
Lorenzo Galluzzi
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Cooper T81b (Maserati) F1 1967 5 +0.481
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2 +2.286
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24 1:20.038
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Firestone  
Hristo Itchov
 HikiWazaRacing
Honda RA300 F1 1967 1 1:19.704
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3 +5.261
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24 1:19.647
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Firestone  
Clive Loynes
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Lotus 49 (Cosworth) F1 1967 4 +0.469
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4 +5.357
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24 1:20.291
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Firestone  
fpolicardi
 Team7
Ferrari 312 (1967) F1 1967 13 +1.896
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5 +49.618
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24 1:20.784
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Firestone  
Andrew Hodgson
 
Lotus 49 (Cosworth) F1 1967 6 +0.885
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6 +1:11.825
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24 1:20.427
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Firestone  
Will Tway
 Antipasti Racing
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 7 +1.021
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7 +1L
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23 1:20.887
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Goodyear  
bernie
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Lotus 49 (Cosworth) F1 1967 15 +2.832
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8 +20.591
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23 1:20.710
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Firestone  
Al Heller
 Clark-Hill Racing
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 8 +1.587
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9 +27.137
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23 1:21.584
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Goodyear  
Jack O'Ferrall
 Reed Racing
BRM P115 F1 1967 18 +4.067
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10 +40.287
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23 1:23.631
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Goodyear  
vosblod
 Clark-Hill Racing
Lotus 49 (Cosworth) F1 1967 16 +3.038
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11 +46.174
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23 1:23.235
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Firestone  
Billy Nobrakes
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 19 +4.283
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12 +49.183
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23 1:23.194
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Goodyear  
Podkrecony_Ziutek
 Clark-Hill Racing
Eagle T1G (Weslake 1967) F1 1967 12 +1.893
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13 +9L
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15 1:21.757
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Goodyear  
EvilClive
 HikiWazaRacing
Honda RA300 F1 1967 10 +1.797
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14 +11L
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13 1:21.921
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Firestone  
Jose - Varela
 
Eagle T1G (Weslake 1967) F1 1967 9 +1.664
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15 +13L
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11 1:24.282
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Goodyear  
adamo popplo
 
Lotus 49 (Cosworth) F1 1967 17 +3.951
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16 +18L
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6 1:23.987
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Firestone  
Samb
 Reed Racing
BRM P115 F1 1967 14 +1.951
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17 +21L
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3 1:23.898
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Goodyear  
MikeBeattie
 Drake Racing
Lotus 49 (Cosworth) F1 1967 2 +0.230
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18 +22L
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2 1:21.718
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Firestone  
Asbjeurn Tverberg
 
Ferrari 312 (1967) F1 1967 11 +1.823
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19 DNS ---
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Firestone  
6 UKGPL
 
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 20 ---
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Goodyear  
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Author Topic: 10th Anniversary Race Of Champions - Kyalami - Aug 31  (Read 10430 times)
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« on: August 19, 2009, 12:31:20 PM +0100 »






It’s finally here, the last of our Summer Madness races, and it promises to be a big one.
To celebrate a decade since the first ever official race at Kyalami on 9 May 1999 we are holding a Race Of Champions on the bank holiday weekend. This race is open to anyone but old timers and past champions are especially welcome.
This might be a good chance for all you potential Graduates to warm up those tyres.

Please be in VROC UKGPL chatroom by 8:50 p.m.
(You will need to set up a channel called #ukgpl if you haven't already done so)
Race password: no race password

Server 6.ukgpl - VROC
IP address 80.5.200.198

Race date = 31-08-2009, 9pm
Track =  Kyalami 1967
Variant = 67F1
Damage Model = Intermediate
Qually time = 30 minutes.
Race length = Int-Long (24 laps)

Chassis assignments: any chassis you like

NOTE : Please make sure you have the pitwall in place, the race will not be moderated but transgressors will be disqualified from the results.
If you have installed a GFX update that removes the pitwall here is how to get it back for the race;
1. Rename or remove kyalami.trk and kyalami.3do files from your kyalami folder.
That will give you back a wall you can crash your car into , if you want the old papy Armco GFX back for the wall do this;
2. Rename or remove Armco_s.mip
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« Reply #1 on: August 19, 2009, 12:58:47 PM +0100 »

Chassis assignments: any chassis you like

I smell Lotus spec coming!  Grin
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« Reply #2 on: August 19, 2009, 03:59:57 PM +0100 »

Chassis assignments: any chassis you like

I smell Lotus spec coming!  Grin

you mean that you are quitting honda/wazza and driving a lotus? does she know ! Cheesy

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« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2009, 06:05:47 PM +0100 »

Chassis assignments: any chassis you like

I smell Lotus spec coming!  Grin

you mean that you are quitting honda/wazza and driving a lotus? does she know ! Cheesy

john

Of course not, I was only referring to the competition. Smiley There's not even the slightest thought of switching Honda with something else in the perceivable future.  Cool
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« Reply #4 on: August 19, 2009, 07:25:48 PM +0100 »

Trust this to be on one day I'm at Greenbelt. Bunch of spoilsports. Tongue

I like Kyalami, and wanted to do this. Shame!
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« Reply #5 on: August 19, 2009, 09:38:56 PM +0100 »

Trust this to be on one day I'm at Greenbelt. Bunch of spoilsports. Tongue

I like Kyalami, and wanted to do this. Shame!

I hate Kyalami, wanna switch?  Cheesy
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« Reply #6 on: August 19, 2009, 10:35:48 PM +0100 »

Trust this to be on one day I'm at Greenbelt. Bunch of spoilsports. Tongue

I like Kyalami, and wanted to do this. Shame!

I hate Kyalami, wanna switch?  Cheesy
Unfortunately I'm committed to Greenbelt, however if it was on the Tuesday the possibility is definitely there. Tongue
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« Reply #7 on: August 20, 2009, 04:41:32 PM +0100 »

Old Champions nice! love to try this again Smiley
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« Reply #8 on: August 20, 2009, 10:03:06 PM +0100 »

Sounds good Smiley As it's a Bank Holiday I may be away/out but if not, watch out for my low flying Eagle  Grin
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« Reply #9 on: August 21, 2009, 07:49:11 AM +0100 »

Those new to 67s might like to take a look at the 85/45 setups of Dave Wilkinson which were posted here twelve months ago:-
http://forum.racesimcentral.com/showthread.php?t=326053

These are about as stable as a 67 car can get.

Those into re-grooving may also benefit from using the replays to adjust the dirty marks on the floor and most newcomers will benefit from seeing which gear to be in.

People who want something a bit more responsive could try the Andreas Wilke setups here
http://www.sim-replays.de/html/gpl.htm

Edit:  Just tried Kyalami in a Lotus for the first time in years.  I think a Honda has been around dropping oil, everywhere!
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« Reply #10 on: August 24, 2009, 12:11:55 PM +0100 »

Argh, been practising Kyalami for a few days can't get down below 1:21. Usually when I'm slow I know I am. However, I feel on the edge and driving good lines yet still turn in mediocre lap times Sad

Anyone got any tips on where most time can be made up around this horrible track? Wink

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« Reply #11 on: August 24, 2009, 03:23:04 PM +0100 »

Argh, been practising Kyalami for a few days can't get down below 1:21. Usually when I'm slow I know I am. However, I feel on the edge and driving good lines yet still turn in mediocre lap times Sad

Anyone got any tips on where most time can be made up around this horrible track? Wink

Andrew

If it feels you're on the limit yet you're not getting better lap times, I'd put my bets you're braking too late and deep into corners, thus compromising your exits. And exits are everything at Kyalami (or everywhere for that matter, lol). You gain a lot more time from having slightly higher top speed at the end of straights than by braking later. Even if it feels the other way around. Try focus on getting as early acceleration on exits as possible and hit your apexes. Installing the WR groove might help with that too.
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« Reply #12 on: August 24, 2009, 04:48:10 PM +0100 »

LOL

My  "late and deep"  seems to be about 100yds earlier than H manages  Roll Eyes

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« Reply #13 on: August 24, 2009, 10:52:27 PM +0100 »

LOL

My  "late and deep"  seems to be about 100yds earlier than H manages  Roll Eyes


If it's about, have a look at the race replay for the S17 Interleague race at Kyalami. My laps in the Eagle were consistent, mostly mistake-free, but not overly quick, 1:20s/1:21s, although I did banzai my qualifying lap to put me 3rd on the grid with a 1:19.5. The key in the race was the car was very easy to drive, I was subconsiously pushing the pedals and turning the steering wheel, I wasn't constantly thinking where to brake. Until I had the race taken away from me, I was loving the Eagle and Kyalami.
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« Reply #14 on: August 25, 2009, 05:24:33 AM +0100 »

Until I had the race taken away from me, I was loving the Eagle and Kyalami.

It's always a hate/love relationship for you, Jethro, isn't it.  Cheesy

Anyway, I meant relative late braking, not compared to someone else. You got to stick to your own limits until you can reach them and keep on them consistently, then worry about catching up to someone else. Late braking is late braking, as long as it compromises your lines and exit speed and regardless if it's 20 meters earlier or later than someone else's braking point.

I suppose setup matters too, so if you're using the default or similar...holy crap! Switch to something more reasonable right away!  Shocked I suggest Paul Jackson setups as stable, fast and consistent.
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