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September 08, 2009, 09:37:43 PM +0100 - Watkins Glen (Classic) - UKGPL Season 18 (2009-2010) Novices Trophy (65)
Driver
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
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Al Heller
 Clark-Hill Racing
BRM P261 (1965) F1 1965 1 1:10.281
117.803mph
1 39:31.676
115.200mph
33 1:10.615
117.246mph
Dunlop  
NickyIckx
 Antipasti Racing
Cooper T77 (Climax) F1 1965 2 +0.126
117.592mph
2 +7.329
114.845mph
33 1:10.777
116.978mph
Dunlop  
bernie
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Honda RA272 F1 1965 3 +0.226
117.425mph
3 +9.658
114.733mph
33 1:10.461
117.502mph
Goodyear  
il_lupo_mannaro
 
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 4 +0.245
117.394mph
4 +17.886
114.338mph
33 1:10.384
117.631mph
Dunlop  
roguk
 Clark-Hill Racing
BRM P261 (1965) F1 1965 5 +0.269
117.354mph
5 +1:09.555
111.918mph
33 1:11.019
116.579mph
Dunlop  
vosblod
 Clark-Hill Racing
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 6 +0.370
117.186mph
6 +41.199
113.233mph
33 1:10.759
117.007mph
Dunlop  
Billy Nobrakes
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 7 +0.750
116.559mph
7 +1:00.753
112.323mph
33 1:11.287
116.141mph
Goodyear  
happyal
 Clark-Hill Racing
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 10 +1.051
116.067mph
8 +1L
109.019mph
32 1:11.624
115.594mph
Dunlop  
NHance
 Mountside Racing
BRM P261 (1965) F1 1965 11 +1.321
115.630mph
9 +2L
106.981mph
31 1:11.519
115.764mph
Dunlop  
Barry De La Rosa
 
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 12 +13.125
99.265mph
10 +6L
91.447mph
27 1:19.372
104.310mph
Disco
Dunlop  
Mark65
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 8 +0.778
116.513mph
11 +21L
113.336mph
12 1:11.334
116.064mph
Disco
Goodyear  
norbert
 Antipasti Racing
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 9 +0.874
116.356mph
12 +29L
93.107mph
4 1:13.558
112.555mph
accident
Dunlop  
6 UKGPL
 
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 13 14 DNS ---
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Dunlop  

Moderator's Report

Summary

Congratulations to Al Heller on a hard fought win. He was pushed very hard by the runner-up, Nicky Ickx. The race would probably have gone to the wire if it hadn’t been for an unfortunate warp contact at about three-quarter distance. Bernie drove a steady race, apart from a couple of excursions on the grass at the Loop, to claim the final podium place and pick up some valuable points.

There were a couple of warp incidents involving back markers. When being lapped it is generally better for the lapped driver to maintain their normal racing line, that way the overtaking car will be able to anticipate where the back marker is going. See the rules on Racing Etiquette for advice on how to allow a lapping car to pass cleanly. When lapping a car that is warping badly, it is much safer to take an inside line. The lapped driver should yield and the overtaking car will not be susceptible to warp (see the guidelines on warp incidents for an explanation).


Server replay time: 0h01m52s

Lap 1 – Big Bend - Alastair Baldwin and Norbert Stemmler

Norbert is on Bernie’s tail as they barrel round The Speed Trap and is on the right hand side of the track as they approach Big Bend. Norbert is not close enough to attack and slots in behind Bernie who follows the racing line to the apex of the corner. Alastair brakes in plenty of time but he closes rapidly on Norbert who has slowed appreciably in order to avoid any risk of contact with Bernie. Unfortunately minor rear end contact is made but it is sufficient to send both Alastair and Norbert spinning off the track.

Alastair must shoulder most of the responsibility for this incident since he was the following car. However he would not have made contact if Norbert had not slowed unexpectedly. Norbert is entitled to a free shift R but Alastair does not and he correctly does a S&G at the end of lap two.


Server replay time: 0h02m50s

Lap 2 – The Loop – Alastair Baldwin and Barry de la Rosa.

Alastair is much faster into the loop and rear–ends Barry.


Server replay time: 0h03m42s

Lap 2 – Finish Straight – Barry de la Rosa and Norbert Stemmler

Barry runs wide at the 90 degree and applies slightly too much throttle whilst partially on the grass. This sends him into a nasty slide which he corrects but not before he has collected Norbert. Both cars can continue apparently undamaged.

Racing incident


Server replay time: 0h13m23s

Lap 11 - Front Straight - RogUK

RogUK blows engine and makes a shift-R but fails to make S&G within two laps – penalty 30 seconds.


Server replay time: 0h16m59s

Lap 13 – Finish Line – N Hance65, Barry de la Rosa and Billy Nobrakes.

Billy is leading N Hance by a dozen car lengths when they catch up to Barry near the 90. Barry is a couple of laps down and tries to get out of the way but nevertheless slows Billy considerably. This gives N Hance the opportunity to catch up and he tries to pounce on the run down to the finish line by driving between Billy and Barry. As the cars funnel down to turn 1 the gap narrows and contact is made, all three cars spin out.

N Hance makes a shift-R but correctly does a S&G at the end of lap fourteen.


Server replay time: 0h28m38s

Lap 23 – Back Straight – Billy Nobrakes and Barry de la Rosa

Billy is trying to lap Barry but gets a little too close and warp contact is made.

Warp incident

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 0h29m34s

Lap 25 – Turn 1 - Nicky Ickx and Barry de la Rosa

Al Heller has a 3 or 4 car length lead over Nicky as they round the 90. They catch up to Barry but can’t lap him before the finish line. Al decides to tuck in behind Barry as he turns in to turn 1 but Nicky sees an opportunity to pass both of them around the outside. Nicky makes it past but he is foiled by warp contact that catapults him into the Armco. Al avoids Nicky’s spinning Cooper and tries to overtake Barry on the inside of the first part of the Esses but warp intervenes again and this time Barry is sent spinning out.

Warp incident.

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 0h38m20s

Lap 30 - The Loop - N Hance

N Hance65 runs wide at loop and is beached on the straw bales. He makes a shift-R but fails to do a S&G within 2 laps.

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« on: September 06, 2009, 12:41:33 AM +0100 »

UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Novices Trophy (65) - Watkins Glen (GP) - Sep 8

Welcome to the Grand Opener for UKGPL Season 18, the 10th anniversary year of UKGPL.

The opening race of the season will be held at Watkins Glen, USA which hosted a United States Grand Prix for twenty consecutive years. The race received the Grand Prix Drivers' Association award for the best organized and best staged GP of the season in 1965, 1970 and 1972 and unfortunately, like many other circuits, had to be altered to cope with faster cars in later years.

Please be careful on Lap 1 as you make your way through the Esses where things can get congested, and don't forget that lap 1 incidents attract an extra place penalty and can usually be avoided.

Remember you cannot win the race on the first lap but you can go a long way to loosing it.  The driver who wins is usually the driver who makes the least mistakes.  Remember if you need to do a shift-R then you will have to perform a stop and go in the pit lane unless you are sure it was totally the fault of another driver.

Reserve drivers should not join the race server until there are only 30 mins of qualifying left - this is to ensure the full-time drivers have had a fair chance to join the server.
No drivers should go out on track until there is 30 minutes of qualifying left - this helps to ensure all the full time drivers have joined the server successfully before qualifying begins.
Please restrict chat to "pit in" / "pit out"  messages, and at the end of the race avoid chat until ALL drivers still racing have crossed the line.

Please be in the IGOR UKGPL chatroom by 8:55 p.m.
(You will need to set up a channel called #ukgpl if you haven't already done so)
IGOR and Race passwords: see above

Server = 6.UKGPL
IP Address = TBC
Race Date = 08-09-2009
Time = 21:00
Track = Watkins Glen
Variant = 65F1
Damage Model = Intermediate
Qually Time = 30 minutes.
Race Length = Long (33 laps)

Password: see above

Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page

Chassis allocations are below, and the same chassis will be used for all races this season unless there is an adjustment agreed by the moderator.  Please note chassis adjustments can be made at any time not just at the mid season review.  Good luck!

FULL TIME DRIVERS
Burtoner - a choice between the BT7 again or the Cooper
G Poole - BT11
Vosblod - Lotus
Happy Al - Lotus
Maestro - BT11
Nicky - Cooper
Bookie - Ferrari
Norbert - Ferrari
NHance - BRM
Al Heller - BRM
Il Lupo - Ferrari
RogUK - BRM
Mark65 - BT11
Barry De La Rosa - Ferrari
Billy Nobrakes - BT11
Bernie - Honda

RESERVE DRIVERS
Viss - choice between the Lotus and the Ferrari

Please use the updated 65 mod for this race.
If you have re-installed UKGPL over the summer break or are joining us for the first time, please don't forget to use the updated 65 mod which is available here: Jamesonline.net/UKGPL
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« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2009, 03:55:54 PM +0100 »

Just wondered why I'm restricted to those 2 chassis. I was just about to post to request the Honda! :-)

Also, I have a channel called #gpl, where I can join races etc. I've added one called #ukgpl, but do I need to enter certain settings?

Cheers,

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« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2009, 05:26:26 PM +0100 »

Update to this - I have found it impossible to set up UKGPL channel on igor (thanks to john roberts for his tireless help!). I managed to set it up on Vroc though.

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« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2009, 05:28:33 PM +0100 »

Just wondered why I'm restricted to those 2 chassis. I was just about to post to request the Honda! :-)
The Ferrari and Lotus are slightly quicker than the Honda.  We have plenty of Ferraris and a couple of Lotuses so I have no problem with you taking a Honda (that will make 2 Hondas and hence a nicely balanced grid) but you'll have to stick with that for the rest of the season.

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Only the password which is published at the top of this thread
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« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2009, 06:01:45 PM +0100 »

I'll take the Ferrari.

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« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2009, 06:32:48 PM +0100 »

I wonder what sort of laptimes I should be doing in bt7?
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« Reply #6 on: September 06, 2009, 07:40:02 PM +0100 »

Update to this - I have found it impossible to set up UKGPL channel on igor (thanks to john roberts for his tireless help!). I managed to set it up on Vroc though.

Make sure you have this in your igor.ini file (program files/gplsecrets/igor);
[ RaceListServers ]
IP                        = gplrank.info

further down...
IRCServer                 = "irc.shadowworld.net"

Other then that I can't see why it wouldn't work. Not a fix but chat in VROC then jump to IGOR to join the race (assuming you can see the race list in IGOR). At the worst case you can bypass both and join the race direct using the server IP.
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« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2009, 08:27:52 PM +0100 »

Burtoner-There was only 1 BT7 at Watkins Glen last season & he qualified with 1 min 12.27secs which is about where I am if I try a BT7 but I am not one of the fastest novices. This was 16th on the grid. However he eventually finished 9th in the race. You can look this up yourself by clicking on season 17 on the left of the front page of ukgpl selecting novices & then click on the top of that race points list.

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« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2009, 08:35:37 PM +0100 »

Update to this - I have found it impossible to set up UKGPL channel on igor (thanks to john roberts for his tireless help!). I managed to set it up on Vroc though.

Make sure you have this in your igor.ini file (program files/gplsecrets/igor);
[ RaceListServers ]
IP                        = gplrank.info

further down...
IRCServer                 = "irc.shadowworld.net"

Other then that I can't see why it wouldn't work. Not a fix but chat in VROC then jump to IGOR to join the race (assuming you can see the race list in IGOR). At the worst case you can bypass both and join the race direct using the server IP.

Yes - I have all that but no joy...

BdlR
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« Reply #9 on: September 07, 2009, 12:51:38 AM +0100 »

Yes - I have all that but no joy...
BdlR
Stuck on that one then - try posting on RSC http://forum.racesimcentral.com/forumdisplay.php?f=366
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« Reply #10 on: September 08, 2009, 10:02:20 PM +0100 »

So 11 laps in, I'm sliding merrily through the esses safely tucked into 4th place when the screen freezes. Engine roaring away, I'm frozen. Tried shift-r, enter, esc, nothing worked. Only ctrl-alt-delete got me out.

Finally managed to get past the inevitable 1st lap pile-up, thought I might finally finish a race, and cleanly to boot! Not today. Too bad Sad

Thanks guys, it was fun Wink
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« Reply #11 on: September 08, 2009, 11:21:14 PM +0100 »

Sorry to here that Mark its a real bummer when you get a screen freeze or a disco

assuming you have a good conection and frame rate screen freezes are usually down to the grafix drivers being unsuitable for GPL usually the earlier drivers work beter than the new ones .

hope you get the gremlins sorted so you can enjoy the whole race  Smiley

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« Reply #12 on: September 09, 2009, 01:47:09 AM +0100 »

Firstly congrats to Al, Nicky and Bernie.

Quallied 6th and less than half a second behind the leader so happy with that - bodes for a close season. Finished 6th so no complaints.

My race was a tale of three sections;
1) Lap 1 - Following Rog - tucked in at the tail end of the leading pack
2) Lap 7 - Following Bernie - the result of an intermission up ahead
3) Lap 26 - Following Rog again - there was an acrobatics display in front and the grass looked a better option

I also have an apology to make to my team-mate Rog. After the display I slightly saw the red mist, I saw a car pass which I took as you, it wasn't and I drove into your path - big sorry (if our new eye in the sky Phil spots that it might be appalling or blatant  Wink )

Anyway great racing - onto the next one...

PS: Just noticed the first seven finished in exactly the same position they got in qually
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« Reply #13 on: September 09, 2009, 09:50:00 AM +0100 »

Great result for the team, well done to Al H. I felt a little bit like Badeor out their, at one point in qualifying my team mates were 1,2 & 3 and I was next to last. At least it forced me to get a better time, only moved me 1 place up the grid, but I was happy with my time.

Race went OK, to be honest, better than expected. First of all I must apologies to Norbert, and also to Norm Stance. I must of got my braking points messed up on the first lap, first incident was with Norm at the Loop. He braked sooner than I expected and I had to take avoiding action, I made a clean pass on the outside but that was luck rather than anything else, sorry about that, I must of scared you, because I scared the crap out of myself.

I should of really learnt from that, cold brakes and full tanks mean that people are taking it easy on the first lap or two. Sorry to Norbert because it obviously didn’t go into my thick head. Coming to the Big Bend Norbert was in front, I was chasing with Norm also next to me, Norbert braked sooner than I expected I tried to duck underneath to avoid him but didn’t quite make it. Very sorry about that.

After that I had a lonely race, I took a stop and go for the above incident, I also needed another Ctrl & R due to me missing a braking point later. Apart from those two little off’s I had a clean race.

I passed Barry De La Rosa quite a few times, some of them where a bit hairy, but I believe that some others had it worst than me. I would say that everyone has to start somewhere, and I could see that he was really trying to get out of the way, but just lost control of his car. Mods, please don’t penalise him too much and put him off, as it wasn’t that long ago that I was in his position and it’s off putting enough racing against a quick and competitive field.

Time for me to get some more practice in, and please don’t tell the press about my drive, I don’t want to be replaced by Fisichella just yet Smiley 
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« Reply #14 on: September 09, 2009, 10:08:51 AM +0100 »

Season 18 is shaping up to be a great contest. I’ve managed to find a bit more pace to make me sort of competitive and really enjoying the Brabham. I think my haul of 8 championship points from 8 starts in Season 17 must be something of a record for UKGPL.
Congrats to Al Hellar on pole & first place – downgrading from a Louts to the BRM seems to have made you even quicker.
This was the debut race in the 65’s for my team, Black Night Racing. We were a bit down on numbers, Pete should be back next week & hope to see Graham on the grid. I suspect my team Mark has been putting in double practice sessions over the summer. I just managed to pip him in qually but he beat me off the grid & powered up to fourth place before the computer gremlins destroyed his race. Hope that was just a one off Mark you should get some good finishes this season.
Race was fairly uneventful, one wheel on the grass in the Esses put paid to any chance of staying with the pack. Also a minor incident going into T1 somewhere mid-race, I was picking place to overtake Barry when Norm “No Chance” saw gap but clipped my rear. Norm got the worst of it & it was just a racing incident in my book. Haven’t checked the replay so I hope I’ve got that right.
Also just mention a great overtake on me by Bernie. One of the early laps I backed off a tad to avoid any contact with Mark in T1 & Bernie flashed clean through a gap I didn’t know was there. I think I’ve figured out his strategy – he qualifies with a bit to spare & then carves his was through the field as his special medicine kicks in. Bernie revealed the magic formula – one part Viagra to two parts Jamiesons whiskey – but I think you need to be a GPL veteran to handle that.
Finally a word of welcome to our latest Newbie, Barry. GPL is difficult to learn & near impossible to master. Stick with it Barry & you will improve. I think your Ferrari got switched for the SS Enterprise –  with warp factor 9 – maybe an issue with the connection caused your car to jump across the race track & made passing you a bit of a lottery. Running with default setups will handicap you – the brake balance at 59% or so kills the tyres. I’ve got good setup guide which explains how the different variables work. If you want a copy send me a Personal Message with your e-mail address.
Looking forward to Solitude – although I do need to figure it out.
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