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October 06, 2009, 09:38:50 PM +0100 - Kyalami (1961-67) - UKGPL Season 18 (2009-2010) Novices Trophy (65)
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Al Heller
 Clark-Hill Racing
BRM P261 (1965) F1 1965 1 1:25.221
107.501mph
1 34:52.016
105.100mph
24 1:25.913
106.635mph
Dunlop  
maestro57
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 2 +0.143
107.320mph
2 +3.409
104.929mph
24 1:25.598
107.027mph
Goodyear  
G Jonsson
 
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 3 +0.178
107.276mph
3 +10.370
104.582mph
24 1:25.519
107.126mph
Goodyear  
NickyIckx
 Antipasti Racing
Cooper T77 (Climax) F1 1965 4 +0.518
106.851mph
4 +14.435
104.380mph
24 1:25.713
106.883mph
Dunlop  
bernie
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Honda RA272 F1 1965 6 +0.674
106.657mph
5 +19.754
104.117mph
24 1:25.977
106.555mph
Goodyear  
vosblod
 Clark-Hill Racing
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 7 +0.844
106.446mph
6 +35.838
103.330mph
24 1:25.800
106.775mph
Dunlop  
il_lupo_mannaro
 
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 9 +0.970
106.291mph
7 +50.793
102.609mph
24 1:25.815
106.756mph
Dunlop  
norbert
 Antipasti Racing
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 12 +1.611
105.506mph
8 +54.065
102.452mph
24 1:27.044
105.249mph
Dunlop  
happyal
 Clark-Hill Racing
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 11 +1.099
106.132mph
9 +1:01.551
102.096mph
24 1:26.956
105.356mph
Dunlop  
BookieW
 HikiWazaRacing
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 16 +4.652
101.936mph
10 +1L
100.599mph
23 1:28.362
103.679mph
Dunlop  
Mark65
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 10 +0.980
106.278mph
11 (+7) +36.287
98.886mph
23 1:26.250
106.218mph
Goodyear  
Viss
 Black Night Racing
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 15 +2.200
104.795mph
12 +44.509
98.506mph
23 1:27.954
104.160mph
Dunlop  
G Poole
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 14 +2.012
105.021mph
13 +47.957
98.348mph
23 1:26.916
105.404mph
Goodyear  
roguk
 Clark-Hill Racing
BRM P261 (1965) F1 1965 5 +0.523
106.845mph
14 +3L
103.555mph
21 1:25.825
106.744mph
Disco
Dunlop  
Billy Nobrakes
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 13 +1.991
105.046mph
15 +9L
92.670mph
15 1:27.950
104.165mph
Disco
Goodyear  
NHance
 Mountside Racing
BRM P261 (1965) F1 1965 8 +0.970
106.291mph
16 (+3) +24L
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Disco
Dunlop  
roberto_motta
 
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 17 +5.186
101.334mph
17
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Disco
Dunlop  
6 UKGPL
 
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Dunlop  

Moderator's Report

SUMMARY

A hard fought victory for Al Heller, very closely followed by the fast improving Peter Maestro. Van Tussman drove a superb race to pick up a podium and the fastest lap in his first UKGPL race, well done! RogUK pushed Al very hard and led the race for a couple of laps but a few too many incidents put paid to a podium position.


Server replay time: 0h01m03s

Lap 1 - Crowthorne Corner - Mark Minard and Bernie Darwin.

Mark gets a good start and picks up a couple of places on the run down to Crowthorne. Bernie and N Hance are several car lengths ahead as they approach the braking zone. N Hance keeps a tight inside line; Bernie is along side and keeps to the outside line wisely giving N Hance plenty of room. Mark sees the gap between Bernie and N Hance and decides to drive between them. However he leaves his braking far too late and crashes into Bernie.

Bernie was driving impeccably, he was aware of N Hance on his inside and was cognisant of the cars ahead leaving just enough room to avoid the risk of warp contact. Mark did not achieve any overlap at turn in and given the fact he ran wide into Bernie, he didn't have the ability to out brake him. The gap ahead was left deliberately by Bernie to avoid the risk of warp contact, it did not present an overtaking opportunity. Mark had Fabio Locarno in his blind spot on his inside most of the way down the straight but he didn't necessarily know that for sure, apart from a fleeting glance of Fabio's rear wheel in his mirrors at one stage. This is another reason why Mark should have stayed left rather than diving into the gap. Mark wasn't close enough to attempt a pass on Bernie, he had no overlap whatsoever at turn-in. Moreover trying to go a three abreast into Crowthorne was asking for trouble, the gap was always going to close up as Bernie and N Hance approached the apex.

If he had not made contact with Bernie, Mark would probably have made the corner but he would definitely have run wide. So it was a very ambitious overtake and rather unwise to attempt to drive three abreast into Crawthorne.

Given that his is a lap 1 incident it attracts a further one place penalty.

Billy is entitled to a no-fault Shift-R.


Server replay time: 0h01m11s

Lap 1 - Crowthorne Corner - Mark Minard and Rob Mott.

When trying to recover from his incident with Bernie, Mark makes an unforgivable mistake trying to rejoin. He is facing the wrong way but instead of waiting until the track is clear he immediately tries to do a U-turn and drives straight into Rob Mott. Carnage ensues with Paul Visser and Bookie Westbrook innocently involved in the melee.

Mark should have waited until the track was clear before trying to rejoin.

Given that his is a lap 1 incident it attracts a further one place penalty.


Server replay time: 0h01m15s

Lap 1 - Barbeque Bend - N Hance and Vos Vosblod

N Hance tries to overtake Vos on the inside at Barbeque Bend. Unfortunately he runs wide and makes side-by-side contact with Vos. Unfortunately Fabio Locarno gets tangled in the debris.

N Hance had no overlap at turn-in so this isn't a case of side-by-side contact after a legitimate over taking attempt. Rather this is an ambitious overtaking event.

Given that his is a lap 1 incident it attracts a further one place penalty.


Server replay time: 0h11m28s

Lap 8 - Crowthorne Corner - Fabio Locarno and Billy Nobrakes

Billy exits the pits after making a stop and go and gets to Crowthorne Corner before the main field is upon him. Billy stays wide to allow Fabio to pass but Fabio runs wide and contact is made.

Billy was not at fault here. He was driving at his own pace and left plenty of room. Fabio was in a battle with Bernie and so he had one eye on Billy and one eye on his mirrors. Nevertheless it is the lapping driver's responsibility not to make contact when the lapped driver has presented him with a clean passing opportunity. Having said that Fabio made a concerted effort to slow down and pass Billy on the inside, he simply failed to pull it off.

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 0h27m04s

Lap 16 - Esses - Billy Nobrakes

Billy blows his third engine and retires. This is down to driving technique, there is nothing wrong with the car. Speed shifting (i.e. not lifting the throttle when changing up through the gears) means the engine over-revs for a split second on every up shift. THIS WILL DESTROY ANY ENGINE.

The first time this happened Billy tried to do a S&G but crashed in the pit lane and he needed a shift-R. He did a good S&G on the next lap (6) but failed to do another S&G for the Armco bashing incident at the end of lap 5. Crashing in the pit lane and needing a shift-R whilst trying to do a S&G does mean another S&G is required (a time penalty has not been awarded as it would make no difference to the result).

Billy's next engine expired gradually. His engine started smoking and missing badly at Barbeque Bend on lap 15 so he limped round the rest of the lap trying to get back to the pit lane to do a shift-R. This is not a good idea. Billy was very slow limping back to the pits and was a hazard to other drivers (although he did a good job of keeping out of the way which is to be commended). Moreover his reset in the pit lane put him back on the fastest part of the track just where drivers may be trying to overtake. What he should have done is to do a shift-R straight away, just down from Barbeque Bend where it is reasonably safe to do so, and then performed a S&G in the pit lane at the end of the lap.


Server replay time: 0h28m29s

Lap 20 - Crowthorne Corner - Al Heller and Nicky Ickx

Al looses control trying to avoid RogUK who has slowed up behind some back markers. Al spins and ends up stationary on the racing line. Nicky is a long way back and slows considerably but nevertheless is unable to avoid contact with Al's stricken BRM.

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 0h28m59s

Lap 20 - Clubhouse Bend - RogUK and Van Tussman

Rog goes wide on the exit of Sunset but he keeps the throttle hard down and consequently gets a little squirrelly as he straddles the kerb. Consequently he careers into Van Tussman. Having his offside wheels on the tarmac and his nearside wheels on the grass coupled with an excess of horsepower is asking for trouble.

Rog should have accepted he was going to loose a place as soon as he went onto the grass. Instead he tried to fight to keep his place when he didn't have full control.

Van Tussman is entitled to a no-fault Shift-R.


Server replay time: 0h32m11s

Lap 21 - Jukskei Sweep - Vlad Vosblod and Graham Poole

RogUk and Fabio Locarno are locked in combat round Barbeque Bend when Rog looses it and Fabio has to take to the grass. Vlad is following close behind and pounces on the opportunity to get past Fabio who has regained the racing line but with much reduced momentum. The excitement ahead has taken all Vosblod's attention and he doesn't know Graham is also trying to take advantage of the situation and is now alongside Vosblod's Lotus. As Vosblod moves over contact is made.

Graham was quite a way back when this all started but he wasn't visible in Vosblod's mirrors for more than a fraction of a second so there was little opportunity for Vosblod to ascertain where Graham actually was. Although it is strictly Vosblod's responsibility not to move over the unusual lines and the opportunist move by Graham mean a penalty in this case would be harsh.

Graham is entitled to a no-fault Shift-R.

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« on: October 02, 2009, 10:48:48 PM +0100 »

Season 18 Novices Trophy - Round 3 - Kyalami

The third race of the season is at Kyalami.  This track is very different from the tricky twists and turns of Solitude, there are not dozens of trees lining the circuit ready to catch out the unwary.  There are plenty of places to overtake particularly at the end of the long straight but please be aware that the pit wall must be in place, as it was on the original papyrus version of the track.  If you have updated your installation of Kyalami to one where the pit wall has been removed, you will have to reinstate it or risk disqualification if you gain an unfair advantage by appearing to miraculously drive through the pit wall on the server replay.

To restore the pit wall structure:  Rename or remove the kyalami.trk and kyalami.3do files from your kyalami folder.

To restore the pit wall appearance:  Rename or remove Armco_s.mip.

The restriction that reserve drivers should not join the race server until there are only 30 mins of qualifying left is being relaxed for this race.  We have enough grid slots to accomodate all the full-time and reserve drivers so there is no risk of a reserve driver taking a full-time driver's grid slot.

No drivers should go out on track until there is 30 minutes of qualifying left - this helps to ensure all the drivers have joined the server successfully before qualifying begins.

Please restrict chat to "pit in" / "pit out"  messages, and at the end of the race avoid chat until ALL drivers still racing have crossed the line.

Please be in the IGOR UKGPL chatroom by 8:55 p.m.
(You will need to set up a channel called #ukgpl if you haven't already done so)
IGOR and Race passwords: see above

Server = 6.UKGPL
IP Address = 80.5.200.198
Race Date = 6-10-2009
Time = 21:00
Track = Kyalami
Variant = 65F1
Damage Model = Intermediate
Qually Time = 30 minutes.
Race Length = Long (24 laps)

Password: see above

Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page

Chassis allocations are below, and the same chassis will be used for all races this season unless there is an adjustment agreed by the moderator.  Please note chassis adjustments can be made at any time not just at the mid season review.  Good luck!

FULL TIME DRIVERS
Burtoner - Brabham BT7
G Poole - Brabham BT11
Vosblod - Lotus
Happy Al - Lotus
Maestro - Brabham BT11
Nicky - Cooper
Bookie - Ferrari
Norbert - Ferrari
NHance - BRM
Al Heller - BRM
Il Lupo - Ferrari
RogUK - BRM
Mark65 - Brabham BT11
Barry De La Rosa - Ferrari
Billy Nobrakes - Brabham BT11
Bernie - Honda

RESERVE DRIVERS
Viss - choice between the Lotus and the Ferrari
Karlisss - Honda

Please use the updated 65 mod for this race.
If you have re-installed UKGPL over the summer break or are joining us for the first time, please don't forget to use the updated 65 mod which is available here: Jamesonline.net/UKGPL
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« Reply #1 on: October 05, 2009, 03:35:06 PM +0100 »

Don't suppose anyone looks at the Solitude postings this long after so I'll put it here.
Very sorry seems like I played more than a bit part in the multiple pile up at turn one at Solitude. I didn't download the server replay as I can't extract the 7z files so I only had my own recording which showed it to be close. Obviously a collision was registered no arguemant from me.
My first trophy & its a bit tainted now. My replay did not cover all cars but it would seem several drivers made their contribution to the global logging industry anyway!. Great track though another Mountside favourite to put alongside Mosport(hint)  Wink.
Anyway appologies

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« Reply #2 on: October 05, 2009, 03:44:13 PM +0100 »

So it was you who scuttled me chances at T1  Sad

I demand satisfaction , tyre levers at dawn  Wink

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« Reply #3 on: October 05, 2009, 04:41:18 PM +0100 »

I didn't download the server replay as I can't extract the 7z files

thats a 7zip file , get it here (it's free software)

http://www.7-zip.org/

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« Reply #4 on: October 05, 2009, 08:50:39 PM +0100 »

I demand satisfaction , tyre levers at dawn  Wink
Don't you mean pies at dusk?

"And he looked up in pained surprise and the concrete hardened crust,
Of a stale pork pie caught him in the eye and Bernie bit the dust.
Poor Bernie, (Bernieeeeeeeeeee)
And he drove the fastest milk cart in the west."   
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« Reply #5 on: October 05, 2009, 09:33:23 PM +0100 »

In spite of the rumours,  bernie is alive and well and living in Wigan England (well as close to it as you would ever want to get) Shocked

The Cooper milkfloat is still delivering the goods  Wink

BTW It was only my intension to mame.

Some Wigan facts :

Lethal pie fighting was barred in every labour club around the area since Arthur Scargill tried to eat a tournament pie and broke his teeth ont' crust. Shocked Shocked Shocked

Pimbletts pies are still fought over regularly every friday neet behind the famous Wigan Casino (often mistaken for the one in Monte Carlo) Roll Eyes
 

The Queen of Sheeba has never visited Wigan Pier  :'(

You can still get tripe and onions in the Market Pub  Roll Eyes

One or more of the above could even be true  Wink
 
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« Reply #6 on: October 05, 2009, 10:16:20 PM +0100 »

Pimbletts Meat n Potato are the king of all pies.
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« Reply #7 on: October 05, 2009, 11:31:23 PM +0100 »

Pimbletts Meat n Potato are the king of all pies.

The main (and only ) ingredient of a "Wigan Kebeb "


i.e. four pies on a stick  Wink

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« Reply #8 on: October 06, 2009, 12:23:44 AM +0100 »

I think my arteries just caved in. I'm moving to the North!!! Cheesy
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« Reply #9 on: October 06, 2009, 06:44:10 AM +0100 »

I think my arteries just caved in. I'm moving to the North!!! Cheesy

You mean moving t' North?
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« Reply #10 on: October 06, 2009, 09:52:15 AM +0100 »

I think my arteries just caved in. I'm moving to the North!!! Cheesy

You mean moving t' North?
Not *that* far up North. Tongue
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« Reply #11 on: October 06, 2009, 10:28:42 AM +0100 »

do'st mean tha's cummin upt' north lad , then th'ad best bring pullover an thee wellie boots, and a nice pair o clogs for the missus Grin

 
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« Reply #12 on: October 06, 2009, 10:52:46 AM +0100 »

I say I say I do say tha's not gonna happen.

Besides, you wouldn't catch a Manc talking like a Yorkshireman. Wink
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« Reply #13 on: October 06, 2009, 06:56:57 PM +0100 »

Give me another year & it'll be pension books at dawn!

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« Reply #14 on: October 06, 2009, 07:45:01 PM +0100 »

 Huh track version with pitwall , or without ?
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