UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Graduates Cup (67) - Riverside 1960 - Oct 24

[maddog]

My race started with the decision of which car to race?  Went for the faster but more perilous from a choice of two, after on-line practice.  

The vista at Riverside, is one to savor, as I've a track addon, which mimics the local landscape beautifully, and I was on form for Sir Jack.

Practice started well, and I was just winding up for a quick lap, when I was unceremoniously ejected from the track, twice!  Hmm . . . t'was time to check the carset - remove custom car paint, throw on some 2D helmets - ejected again. Reluctantly removed majestic landscape, and was readmitted, but into a completely different world!  Came to the kink in the main straight, and well, sort of de-kinked!  A DQ to turn around, so I pressed on regardless, behind the track barrier.  What would Sir Jack say?  It was a half lap before I could rejoin the bloomin' thing again!  What kind of a horrible universe was this, I'd landed up in.  Sob . . . sniffle!  Had a few minutes left, so promptly blew the motor.  "Stop the world, I want to get off!"  Luckily, Sir Jack, and the nice nurses at the asylum calmed me down, and I was ready to race.

It briefly looked like a nice battle was shaping up, between myself and poleman Fabio, who'd blitzed the field, in his Ferrari.  But I quickly became too familiar with the scenery . . . a couple of times.

The track no longer seemed odd, but my car did.  One final off, and the thud discoed me from a cruel universe, where I  didn't belong.  Grumble!  And it seems, I was not alone . . .  

[FullMetalGasket]

I've no probs with a crimbo break race aslong as you don't clash with the P&G fun race being planned (Here at Riverside as it so happens!)
Would like to re-run here if poss, but if there's no certainty of a reliable race for all then a different track would be in order I feel 

[Hristo Itchov]

We didn't seem to have any freezes in the Privateers but all joking aside it might have something to do with the spacing of the cars - its tight in the Works not in the Privateers so each screen has less going on. Just a thought.  Cheers to Tim for hosting us.
BTW I did a PB in Qually as well - and I wasn't last on the grid   - mind you my PB was 2:00.55  :'(

They both had the same grid settings Paul. Well done on the PB by the way - a PB is a PB, doesn't matter on the time.

I need to check the server replay (if there is one) but a re-run for Works is looking likely. IF this happens does anyone object to the xmas break (not actually on xmas day or anything silly)? The alternative is to tack the race on to end of season, either way it might also be subject to a change of track dependent on testing.

What's the point of a re-run if we face the same track (or server) problems? I suggest until it's figured out what's the problem, we either run a different track or use a different server.

All that if it's impossible to recover race results of course.

[vosblod]

We didn't seem to have any freezes in the Privateers but all joking aside it might have something to do with the spacing of the cars - its tight in the Works not in the Privateers so each screen has less going on. Just a thought.  Cheers to Tim for hosting us.
BTW I did a PB in Qually as well - and I wasn't last on the grid   - mind you my PB was 2:00.55  :'(

They both had the same grid settings Paul. Well done on the PB by the way - a PB is a PB, doesn't matter on the time.
I need to check the server replay (if there is one) but a re-run for Works is looking likely. IF this happens does anyone object to the xmas break (not actually on xmas day or anything silly)? The alternative is to tack the race on to end of season, either way it might also be subject to a change of track dependent on testing.

What's the point of a re-run if we face the same track (or server) problems? I suggest until it's figured out what's the problem, we either run a different track or use a different server.
All that if it's impossible to recover race results of course.

I'm agreeing with you H 

[Rick Nauman]

I need to check the server replay (if there is one) but a re-run for Works is looking likely.

Really?

14 drivers start.  Maybe 3 or 4 are individually discoed before the mass disconnect.  That means ~10 drivers are still competing.  The P1 and P2 cars (maybe more) completed at least 22 (maybe 23) of 27 laps (81%) before the melt down occurs.  And yet a re-run is likely?

Remember the race we did that accidentally ran only 12 of the announced 36 laps.  Those who missed the impromptu chat line stating that the race length was setup wrong ran with 3 times the needed fuel weight.  That race was only 33% of the planned length yet was judged a fair race and not worthy of a re-run.

With 81% completion I don't see why you should jump over option 1 and 2 to get to 3:

--reconstruct the result based on the replay, if available;
--declare the race to be red flagged at the end of the preceding lap and take the final results from that lap; or
--declare the race null and void and arrange for it to be run again.

And oh yeah, in keeping with full disclosure... yes folks, I was that P1 guy!  

[vosblod]

And oh yeah, in keeping with full disclosure... yes folks, I was that P1 guy!  

Aha - as I say no ruling yet. Have to check if there is a replay first. It is 'under consideration' and further advices will follow. The Red Flag guidance is here, 'reconstruct the result based on the replay, if available' .

[Hristo Itchov]

I need to check the server replay (if there is one) but a re-run for Works is looking likely.

Really?

14 drivers start.  Maybe 3 or 4 are individually discoed before the mass disconnect.  That means ~10 drivers are still competing.  The P1 and P2 cars (maybe more) completed at least 22 (maybe 23) of 27 laps (81%) before the melt down occurs.  And yet a re-run is likely?

Remember the race we did that accidentally ran only 12 of the announced 36 laps.  Those who missed the impromptu chat line stating that the race length was setup wrong ran with 3 times the needed fuel weight.  That race was only 33% of the planned length yet was judged a fair race and not worthy of a re-run.

With 81% completion I don't see why you should jump over option 1 and 2 to get to 3:

--reconstruct the result based on the replay, if available;
--declare the race to be red flagged at the end of the preceding lap and take the final results from that lap; or
--declare the race null and void and arrange for it to be run again.

And oh yeah, in keeping with full disclosure... yes folks, I was that P1 guy!  

The problem is the server saves the replay only when the race is finished (or even when the race session ends and quits the track?). Judging how we all got disconnected at once and how the server kept showing "5 laps remaining" on Igor racelist, it must've locked up completely (screen freeze like what usually happens to drivers).

Without a replay we can't reconstruct the results, with the exception of the first few positions (you 1st, evil 2nd although he's not going to admit!, jr 3rd, me 4th and juha 5th), without any real known time gaps in between and without an official result file to import into the system.

I don't mind if this is done, because it was completely my fault for throwing away the lead and I can't demand a rerun, but without knowing which drivers were in all the point-taking positions at the time of or 1 lap before the server crash, it doesn't seem like a good choice as it will disrupt the championship for some.

[b_1_rd]

"getting a bit bored"

Charmed, I'm sure!!!!

[Michael Turner]

"We didn't seem to have any freezes in the Privateers "

Yes we did. See my post above.

[FullMetalGasket]

"getting a bit bored"

Charmed, I'm sure!!!!

The BRM takes some work to set up right as it's so different, that combined with my habit of discovering the balence was still wrong through massive crashes was getting old, fast!
Was great fun once I finally had it doing what I wanted though

[BadBlood]

Sorry Michael - I wondered where you had gone. When you caught me and pulled out a lead I was determined to calm down and catch you so I concentrated... and span

Wierdly my steering wheel short shifted me a couple of times without any intervention from me which gave me a few trips across the countryside. Damn cheap wheels. Never mind. Fun though.

[Ross Neilson]

I did 15 laps prep for this event, and it showed. Off the pace in qualifying, I hit Bernie early on lap 1 and spent the race of the race toiling in midfield, trying to keep the car out of the barriers. Due to others' problems I was up to 5th at halfway when I ripped a wheel off in the esses and had to retire.

The next round is at the Green Hell so I don't expect much from that either!

[Tom van Ostade]

Hi all,

Short race for me, but a fun one. I was a good two seconds back in quali so didn't really expect too much for the race, but everybody seemed to be taking it real easy on the first lap and this allowed me to blast by Al AND Hristo before the wavy straight! Incredible, I was in the lead... After that the race just started settling down with Hristo starting to put pressure on me, when my header went belly up just as I was about to shift. I didn't abuse the engine at all IIRC so must have been plain bad luck.

About a rerun on this track, Ginetto can fix it so there will not be any more freezes. He has just recently done it for Thruxton where we were racing with GPLRACER, and also did it in the past for Zeltweg and maybe  few other tracks. He's finished with all GT tracks at the moment so he may have time, just send him a PM or something at SRMZ.

Bye, Tom.

[Ronniepeterson]

Privateers race at Riverside: 27 laps driven, 27 laps completed, not a screen freeze in sight. Great server.

Commiserations to Fabio and his fleet footed Ferrari who really deserved the victory. I kept him in sight but was never going to catch him. BUT he caught a dose of Hristos boredom and lost concentration with 2 laps to go allowing me to steal the victory. Great race.

Lesson learned. For me speed is great but counts for little without concentration and focus for the whole race.

[il_lupo_mannaro]

It could have been a great day to remember: my first UKGPL victory in a 67s and even a hat trick but...

Server was OK: not even a latency or a quality problem.

On Saturday night I just discovered how big is my feeling with this track and how great is the setup I got from the Italian recordman on Riverside.

I had an old PB, 1.58.XX, but on Saturday I immediately cut down 6" on it 

Then, on Steve's server just before the race, I got my PB, 1.50.218: it's my first negative rank on a non-papy track

On qualify I managed to get the pole time on the first 20', then I just tried some laps with the full tank (I never did it before...)

At the race start I was immediately having "braccino" (it means short arm in english: in Italy it's said when you are fearing to win...) so I had a quite bad start, with a small contact with Martin Hunt, and the first lap was very hard, with his engine's roar in my ears...

Then it was a little bit better but, as soon as I got a quite big gap from the second driver, "braccino" came up again and again...

On lap 14, while I was lapping Hannah on the slowest corner of the track, I spun so Ronnie pass me and got P1.

Then it was easier for me (maybe I'm not used to P1  ) and in lap 17 I passed Ronnie, after setting the FL of the race, and I finally lapped Hannah without any issue...

Then "braccino" catched definitevely myself: after lap 23, with a gap of 27.51" from Ronnie, I was starting to drive slower, to avoid any mistake...

On lap 25 I went wide on the hairpin after the Esses, I hit the wall and lost the left wheels: Shift+r with Stop'n'Go...

Ronnie passed me and I tried to catch again P1 but, in only two laps, it would have been a mission impossible and so it ended.

The final two laps were fantastic: Ronnie closed every small room to stop my attemps to pass him and I had to be careful to avoid any contact that would have ended the race for both 

WD to Ronnie and... shame on me

CU all on the next one

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