UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Graduates Cup (67) - Nürburgring (GP) - Nov 7

[Podkrecony_Ziutek]

I don't think that this race should be rerun. We had races witch worst warps and we didn't rerun race. For me only serious reason to rerun a race is massive disco, or something what happened at riverside.

I just need to remind that we all had the same conditions, and rerun this race would be unfair to the guys that finished it.

As for my race. I'm sick and I wasn't able to race yesterday. I've joined server just for tokens. I've tried to stay on track, but I just couldn't concentrate enough and I've spun in quite silly place. That spun cost me a wheel and whole race.

Tough luck, hope to do better in Mexico

[Hristo Itchov]

It's different, Pod. It's one thing for someone to have bad warp due to their own end of the connection and quite another for the server end to cause troubles for everyone, which was the case here. When you say race rerun, this wasn't even a race under these circumstances. No one could really race anyone.

I don't remember such problem except the Imola Spec race, definitely not in the last couple of seasons, so it's quite an exceptional situation.

You're right that it may not be fair to those who finished, but given the high element of luck involved with this lag, is it really fair to those who didn't finish? Championships should not be decided like this.

[Samb]

Same old story for me. Qualified around the back after completing a slow lap, and crashing on the faster lap  . Made a great start though passing a few cars though the warp made things a little scary, but luckily I made it through unscathed. For the next half of the lap i had H catch me at a blistering rate and let him pass me given that I was finding it hard enough to keep the car on the straight and narrow.

Soon after, I lost control and the same place in quali and lost a wheel  :'(. More than annoyed at myself, I completed the lap with 3 wheels but eventually beached myself on the second lap. Pretty much sums up my driving of late. I've got to find the time to practice like before.

[BadBlood]

I never do well at the Nurburgring so decided to save my precious tokens by calling into service an old bathtub. As usual it was a case of racing the track rather than other drivers but for once I managed to be amongst the handful to complete the race without major drama or technical problems.

Congrats to Bernie on his fine win for the Soggies.

Decided to take it nice and steady to finish rather than compete - managed to catch Michael at the end of the first lap (even though he is MUCH quicker than me and then got excited and tried to race - fatal. One Shift-R later tried to calm down and lost it before I could take my stop and go

[bernie]

Congrats to Bernie on his fine win for the Soggies.

Shhhhhhhhhhht!

I was trying to keep it quiet so you dont all gang up on me for the next race 

[BadBlood]

Too late for that 

[maddog]

I'd sorted a fast setup for the Ferrari, and practice saw me snag an easy Privateers pole.  So the race would be a matter of how slowly I could drive.  

The hedges had elluded me throughout off-line practice, but in the race, one snagged my Ferrari on the first lap, deviously.  So I called in at the pits in third.  Second, after the demise of Ronnies impressive Honda.  Then, with a couple of blind apexes missed, I knocked a wheel loose, and valiantly soldiered on in a car that was no longer sure, of what straights were for!

Another 2 laps in a shaky second, and the hedges struck again - inevitably, this time it was race over.  I could only watch, as Bernies Brabham sailed on to a majestic win.  It wasn't until I was out of the car, that I noticed another snag . . . I'd been driving car no.13.  Seems to me, the regulations should allow for a re-run, when this happens.  Grumble!  

[happyal]

Not a great race for me, but I didn't think it would be. I just didn't get enough pratice in for this race, so that ment I still wasn't 100% sure of the track.

In Qual I did OK, kept it out of the hedges and did some nice laps. The race was a different matter, I was hopeless. A slow horrible spin put me into the hedge about half way around, I was stuck in the hedge so I had to do a Shift & R, got back into the race, and was slowly catching Billy and Turn (I think), but a silly mistake knocked a wheel off on a wall. It was race over for me, and I didn't even manage a single lap.

Still, I enjoyed the track, so looking forward to this one again next year. Well done to all who did well.

[Billy Nobrakes]

After being nudged of track in turn 3 of the first lap & taking my one lifeline (Shift R) I had no expectation of a finish & was, therefore, a major surprise to see the chequered flag after 7 laps! I managed to adapt to survival mode driving – about 30 seconds a lap off my PB but it got there in the end.
Congratulations to:
Bernie – whose winning performance made the Ring look easy.
Hannah – mighty improvement since last season for 2nd place.
Michael T for finishing in the Bathtub. I spent a frustrating evening trying the BRM but it’s an absolute pig. Sorry for the tap on lap 1 Mike – your BRM was a lot slower than I expected out of some of the turns.
One thing I haven’t worked out is where the pits are. For some reason I decided they were part of the tower block that looks like air-traffic control. I did an untidy stop & go there and also at the building next to the S/F line – but didn’t see a pit board. Suspect a time penalty is due but I’ll let the Mods sort that.

[BadBlood]

I knocked a wheel loose, and valiantly soldiered on in a car that was no longer sure, of what straights were for!

Another 2 laps in a shaky second, and the hedges struck again

GREAT - I can't even catch 'em when they have three wheels 

[Podkrecony_Ziutek]

It's different, Pod. It's one thing for someone to have bad warp due to their own end of the connection and quite another for the server end to cause troubles for everyone, which was the case here. When you say race rerun, this wasn't even a race under these circumstances. No one could really race anyone.

This kind of situation in a part of on line racing. Yesterday we all had the same problem and we should adapt to this situation and be more carefoul. I know how annoying is to be stuck behind warping driver, but this is the nature of on line racing.

You're right that it may not be fair to those who finished, but given the high element of luck involved with this lag, is it really fair to those who didn't finish? Championships should not be decided like this.

There's a few guys that have adapt to bad conditions or just had some luck witch allowed them to finish the race. Others(like me) didn't have that so they crashed. For me it's just like in real life. If you can't adapt to current conditions then you won't finish the race. Same thing with luck, if you're lucky then nobody will crash into you, but if you're unlucky well sorry

In this race there has been no massive disco, so I just don't see reason to rerun it. but It might be good idea to wait for Tim's decision.

[Billy Nobrakes]

Just remembered, qualification started about three quarters way round the track. Was that the same for everybody? I’m sure it was the pit lane last year. (BTW that’s my other excuse for not knowing where the pit lane is).

[maddog]

At least that was probably no accident Billy.  The idea of a pit out, late in the lap, is to avoid wasting an entire circuit, before starting a hot lap.  All the Privateers must've been that way. 

[Turkey Machine]

The qualifying for Works was "complete the whole lap", which made qualifying rather interesting and contributed to several people not setting a lap.

I managed to start the lap about 2 minutes before the flag fell, which left me last man standing and all eyes on the leery Honda. I managed an 8:29, some 25 seconds off Tom's excellent pole time.

Lag was a massive factor in both qualifying and the race, there were times when I wasn't sure I'd complete the qualifying lap because of it, it was so high. Eventually it settled but by race start it was clear I'd have to take it super easy.

T1 was, erm, interesting. Going around the outside of somebody warping worse than the Enterprise resulted in them spinning, so I took up place with H not far behind. Eventually I let him past and set about following. Then the worst part of the track for me bit, going up to mini-Karusell with the bridge. 2 wheels off and a very pee'd off me.

[BadBlood]

Just remembered, qualification started about three quarters way round the track. Was that the same for everybody? I’m sure it was the pit lane last year. (BTW that’s my other excuse for not knowing where the pit lane is).

Same for me - it really confused me at first - I thought it had gone wrong! Wot a newbie. lol