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November 12, 2010, 10:24:07 PM +0000 - Silverstone (GP 1952-73) - UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011)
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StefanRoess
 
Lola T70 MkIII GT 1967 7 +1.636
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1 36:48.301
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24 1:30.716
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Goodyear  
Hristo Itchov
 HikiWazaRacing
Mirage M1 GT 1967 2 +0.668
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2 +1.283
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24 1:30.379
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Firestone  
Al Heller
 Clark-Hill Racing
Chaparral Mk2F GT 1967 4 +0.953
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3 +10.397
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24 1:30.715
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Firestone  
jhalli
 
Chaparral Mk2D GT 1967 1 1:29.521
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4 +14.936
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24 1:30.278
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Firestone  
EvilClive
 HikiWazaRacing
Chaparral Mk2D GT 1967 3 +0.891
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5 +19.901
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24 1:31.314
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Firestone  
Podkrecony_Ziutek
 Clark-Hill Racing
Lola T70 MkIII GT 1967 6 +1.520
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6 +26.193
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24 1:31.786
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Goodyear  
fpolicardi
 Team7
Ferrari 330/P4 GT 1967 10 +2.190
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7 +57.639
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24 1:32.353
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Firestone  
FullMetalGasket
 Black Night Racing
Ford GT40 MkIV GT 1967 13 +3.783
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8 +1:00.845
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24 1:32.845
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Goodyear  
b_1_rd
 Clark-Hill Racing
Chaparral Mk2F GT 1967 11 +3.302
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9 +1:04.222
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24 1:32.224
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Firestone  
G Jonsson
 Black Night Racing
Mirage M1 GT 1967 10 +1:20.462
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24 1:33.195
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Firestone  
maddog
 
Porsche 910 GT 1967 15 +4.028
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11 +1L
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23 1:34.023
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Dunlop  
vosblod
 Clark-Hill Racing
Chaparral Mk2F GT 1967 8 +1.893
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12 +9.046
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23 1:33.221
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Firestone  
blito
 Nessuna Speranza
Ferrari 330/P4 GT 1967 16 +4.046
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13 +4L
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20 1:34.036
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Firestone  
Pedro vd Berg
 
Lola T70 MkIII GT 1967 12 +3.476
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14 +9L
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15 1:32.493
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Goodyear  
Tom SchlosserGT
 
Lola T70 MkIII GT 1967 9 +2.137
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15 +13L
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11 1:31.343
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Goodyear  
john roberts
 
Lola T70 MkIII GT 1967 5 +1.406
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16 +14L
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10 1:32.088
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Goodyear  
miner2049er
 Clark-Hill Racing
Porsche 910 GT 1967 18 +5.200
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17 +41.067
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10 1:34.965
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Dunlop  
il_lupo_mannaro
 
Ferrari 330/P4 GT 1967 17 +4.618
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18 +19L
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5 1:36.108
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Firestone  
ginsters sponsored
 Kerb Crawlers
Ford GT40 MkI GT 1967 14 +3.969
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19 DNS ---
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Goodyear  
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Porsche 910 GT 1967 20 ---
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Dunlop  
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Author Topic: New 67 Sports Car Mod Test Race - Silverstone - 12 November  (Read 14479 times)
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« on: November 09, 2010, 11:44:42 AM +0000 »

Well it's almost here and what better way to celebrate then an inaugural UKGPL test race - we need to see how it runs on the server and also check the import uploads correctly to the srou system.
I can't give you a firm release date (will post in this thread as soon as it comes out) so Friday is provisional/subject to change but be ready to grab the mod quick. You won't have much time to get used to these beasts but we will all be in the same boat and the default set ups are pretty good once tweaked to suit your style - any complaints about them should be addressed to Mr Roberts Wink. I've picked a well known venue so you don't have to struggle with unfamiliar chassis and an unfamiliar track.
If you can't make Friday never fear, I'm sure we will have a few further fun events. Make sure you visit this thread for background and info.

Race List = IGOR
Server = UKGPL_T7_2
IP address = 62.149.202.168
Race date = 12-11-2010
Time = 21:00 UK time
Track = Silverstone
Variant = 67 Sports Car mod (http://www.sportscarlegends.net/)
Damage Model = INT
Chassis = free choice
Qualifying time = 35 minutes (please don't start until 30 mins left on clock to allow everyone to join)
Race length = Int Long

Password: open event (in the event of a full grid of drivers in chat a password will be applied and announced in the UKGPL chatroom)

The track can be downloaded from : original Papy track

Please be in IGOR UKGPL chatroom by 8:50 pm UK Time = GMT).

UPDATE: 11/11/10 - mod now released - link above

Silverstone is built on the site of a World War II bomber base, RAF Silverstone, which opened in 1943. The track hosted the first F1 championship race in 1950. The British Grand Prix has been permanently held here since 1987 although it is due to switch to Donnington Park in 2010. The airfield's three runways, in classic WWII triangle format, lie within the outline of the present track. The first two races were held on the runways themselves, with the 1949 International Trophy switching to the perimeter track. This arrangement was used for the 1950 and 1951 Grands Prix. In 1952 the start line was moved from the Farm Straight to the present Finish Straight, and this layout remained largely unaltered for the following 35 years. Since 1975 the track has been modified with the introduction of chicanes etc – we are using the 1960’s layout.
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« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2010, 11:11:00 PM +0000 »

Hope to be there. After all Silverstone is quick - IT NEEDS A CHICANE and I know a man to give it one... laugh
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« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2010, 12:33:16 PM +0000 »

what cars are you guys planing on taking to this race?

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« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2010, 12:37:03 PM +0000 »

what cars are you guys planing on taking to this race?
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Probably not the best speedwise for this track but, for something relatively easy to pick up, I'm tempted by the Porsche.
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« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2010, 12:45:26 PM +0000 »

I'll take whatever sounds nicest, irrespective of performance Grin
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« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2010, 01:05:36 PM +0000 »

what cars are you guys planing on taking to this race?

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Ferrari 330 P4

It's a car that I remember from my childhood, it was a magic car that was drop dead gorgeous, and one of the cars that started my live long obsession with all things Ferrari. I hope that you have it a good setup Smiley
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« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2010, 01:33:59 PM +0000 »

Have you got one with Nitro boosters?  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2010, 02:39:53 PM +0000 »

Is there a pecking order for these brutes??? or are they broadly similar in performance?
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« Reply #8 on: November 10, 2010, 02:48:41 PM +0000 »

The SRMZ countdown thread has this;
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Inevitably, people will want to know which car is best. This always comes down to personal preference, but here are some guidelines on each car. Remember that these were endurance racing cars so reliablilty was vital. As Stirling Moss once said; "To finish first, you first have to finish". If you are only doing short races, then the car's reliablility won't be much of a factor, but if you do longer races, you will want to pay more attention to that.

Ford GT40 MkIIB
The MkIIB is a fast, heavy car. It weighed almost twice as much as the Porsche 910. Capable of speeds in excess of 205 mph, it is adequate at those tracks that reward top speed at the expense of handling. So it should be OK for tracks such as Sebring, LeMans, and Reims. However, there are always better choices. You would not want to drive it at the Targa or the Ring. Also, the MkIIB is extremely unreliable. This weakness may not show up for short races, but will definitely be a factor in longer ones.

Ford GT40 MkIV
Like the MkIIB, the MkIV is a fast, heavy car, but unlilke the MkIIB, it is more reliable. It will go 215 mph on the Mulsanne straight which makes it a top choice for places such as Sebring, LeMans, and Reims where it can cruise at top speed and walk away from its competitors. Being heavy, its handling is merely adequate so you woudn't want to use it at the Targa or the Ring.

Ford GT40 MkI
The MkI actually competed as a production car for nonworks teams so it was included in a mod for prototype cars mainly because we had a nice three dimensional model for it. Also, at several races there just aren't that many prototypes so the MkI does a nice job of filling up the field. In 1967, it easily won the over 2.0 liter production car class championship for Ford.
The car itself is very good. Lighter than either of the other GT40s, its handling is better. Although limited in power, it can do about 195 mph on a long straight and is reasonably reliable. The car was so good that when the 3.0 liter limit on prototype cars became effective in 1968, the old MkI was able to beat them and win LeMans in both 1968 and 1969 as well as the Manufacturers Championship for Ford in 1968; much to the chagrin of the FIA.
It would not be the first choice on any track, but is a good car to start training. It has no faults and is fun to drive. Just don't expect to be able to compete against the larger engined prototypes.

Mirage M1
The Mirage is essentially a GT40 MkI with revised bodywork and a bigger engine. It was lighter and more aerodynamic. Capable of speeds in excess of 205 mph, it can compete for the lead in the hands of a capable driver. It is a good overall car; quicker than the GT40 MkI, but not as quick as the Lola. Unfortunately, it is also unreliable and would not be the first choice for a long race.

Chaparral 2D
The 2D is a very good car. Not too heavy and powered by its large 7.0 liter engine with gobs of torque, it will go over 205 mph and handle well too. However, it is very unreliable. It's biggest downside is that it only has a three gear transmission. Although its engine's massive torque somewhat compensates for the lack of gears, particular attention needs to be paid to the gear ratios. If not for the Chaparral 2F, this would be a fine choice for any race of shorter duration.

Chaparral 2F
The 2F is basically a 2D with a huge rear wing for downforce. So it has all the good points and bad points of the 2D, but added grip for tighter cornering. Not quite as fast as the 2D in a straight line due to the wing drag, it will still do just under 205 mph which is adequate for the faster tracks such as LeMans. At the twistier circuits such as the Targa and the Ring, it can hold also its own against the Ferrari and Porsche.
If you had to chose one car for all tracks and short races, this would be a good choice as it is a great overall car.

Ferrari 330 P4
In you had to drive one car for long races and wanted to win on any track, this would be it. It is very reliable, second only to the Porsche, and performs well at all tracks. Its top speed is limited compared to most of the others at only 195 mph, but overall, it is a great car. It must have been as it won the Manufacturers Championship for Ferrari.
However, for shorter races there are better choices.

Porsche 910
For those tracks that require the best handling such as the Targa and the Ring, the 910 would be top choice. It weighs little more than a 1967 Formula 1 car which makes it the best handling car of the group by far. But it's down on power so its top speed is only 170 mph or so. At tracks such as LeMans and Reims, it's at a distinct disadvantage to the much faster cars.
It is also the most reliable car so you can count on it to finish.

Lola T70 MkIII
The Lola is a really nice car and some would pick it as their overall favorite rather than the Chaparral 2F. It has enough power to kick out the tail for power on oversteer if desired. Medium weight helps its handling and it's capable of over 200 mph so it isn't at too much of a disadvantage on the fast tracks either. Unfortunately, it is very unreliable and would not be a good choice for a long race.

Looks like some will be more suited to certain tracks but we will probably have to find a general pecking order by trial and error. A good spread Friday would be nice - it's only a fun test so give whatever you like a go.
I didn't test them as much as I get credit for in the ReadMe so I'm not expecting to be a frontrunner, one thing that did take a bit of getting used to for me was avoiding hitting the barriers. These things are of course much wider then a single seater so you have to get used to allowing for that. Also, the one with three gears feels distinctly odd to start with.
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« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2010, 02:56:52 PM +0000 »

Surely that's supposed to say 'the 5 litre limit' and not 3, as the Mk1 GT40 had a 289 smallblock = 4.7 litres  Wink
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« Reply #10 on: November 10, 2010, 04:12:08 PM +0000 »

Thanks for that info Vos,  now all I have to do is download and decide Undecided lol  (or should that be lola)]]]


edit...having digested the info above.

There are a lot of comments referring to the reliability of the various cars? So does anyone know....

 Is this along the lines of the original 67 mod, as in the Lotus is fast but fragile, the Honda is vulnerable if over stretched in the revs department.etc etc..Although if driven with respect they will survive most races.
OR is this a develish new parameter that the mods have introduced, meaning that certain chassis are doomed to fail more often than survive??
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« Reply #11 on: November 10, 2010, 10:53:42 PM +0000 »

There are a lot of comments referring to the reliability of the various cars? So does anyone know....

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Is this along the lines of the original 67 mod, as in the Lotus is fast but fragile, the Honda is vulnerable if over stretched in the revs department.etc etc..Although if driven with respect they will survive most races.
OR is this a develish new parameter that the mods have introduced, meaning that certain chassis are doomed to fail more often than survive??

some cars are more reliable than others , the spread is as wide as the 67's but overall they are less reliable than the 67 f1 cars (they weren't designed to be ran at 100% for a 24 hours race like they do these days) .

but i'll weave out of giving you the data ... it will be more fun for you to work it out for yourself Wink

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« Reply #12 on: November 10, 2010, 11:04:15 PM +0000 »

Lola  Cool
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« Reply #13 on: November 11, 2010, 12:12:56 AM +0000 »

Looks like the Porsche is the GT Waza to me - does it come in white?
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« Reply #14 on: November 11, 2010, 12:41:51 AM +0000 »

I'm not saying when it will be available but you can hear it from His Masters Voice;
Wednesday 10/11/10
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