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  • S20 Silverstone: November 12, 2010
November 12, 2010, 10:24:07 PM +0000 - Silverstone (GP 1952-73) - UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011)
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Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
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StefanRoess
 
Lola T70 MkIII GT 1967 7 +1.636
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1 36:48.301
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24 1:30.716
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Goodyear  
Hristo Itchov
 HikiWazaRacing
Mirage M1 GT 1967 2 +0.668
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2 +1.283
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24 1:30.379
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Firestone  
Al Heller
 Clark-Hill Racing
Ford GT40 MkIV GT 1967 4 +0.953
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3 +10.397
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24 1:30.715
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Firestone  
jhalli
 
Chaparral Mk2D GT 1967 1 1:29.521
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4 +14.936
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24 1:30.278
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Firestone  
EvilClive
 HikiWazaRacing
Chaparral Mk2D GT 1967 3 +0.891
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5 +19.901
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24 1:31.314
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Firestone  
Podkrecony_Ziutek
 Clark-Hill Racing
Lola T70 MkIII GT 1967 6 +1.520
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6 +26.193
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24 1:31.786
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Goodyear  
fpolicardi
 Team7
Ferrari 330/P4 GT 1967 10 +2.190
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7 +57.639
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24 1:32.353
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Firestone  
FullMetalGasket
 Black Night Racing
Ford GT40 MkIV GT 1967 13 +3.783
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8 +1:00.845
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24 1:32.845
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Goodyear  
b_1_rd
 Clark-Hill Racing
Ford GT40 MkIV GT 1967 11 +3.302
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9 +1:04.222
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24 1:32.224
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Firestone  
G Jonsson
 Black Night Racing
Mirage M1 GT 1967 10 +1:20.462
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24 1:33.195
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Firestone  
maddog
 
Porsche 910 GT 1967 15 +4.028
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11 +1L
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23 1:34.023
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Dunlop  
vosblod
 Clark-Hill Racing
Ford GT40 MkIV GT 1967 8 +1.893
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12 +9.046
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23 1:33.221
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Firestone  
blito
 Nessuna Speranza
Ferrari 330/P4 GT 1967 16 +4.046
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13 +4L
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20 1:34.036
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Firestone  
Pedro vd Berg
 
Lola T70 MkIII GT 1967 12 +3.476
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14 +9L
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15 1:32.493
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Goodyear  
Tom SchlosserGT
 
Lola T70 MkIII GT 1967 9 +2.137
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15 +13L
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11 1:31.343
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Goodyear  
john roberts
 
Lola T70 MkIII GT 1967 5 +1.406
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16 +14L
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10 1:32.088
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Goodyear  
miner2049er
 Clark-Hill Racing
Porsche 910 GT 1967 18 +5.200
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17 +41.067
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10 1:34.965
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Dunlop  
il_lupo_mannaro
 
Ferrari 330/P4 GT 1967 17 +4.618
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18 +19L
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5 1:36.108
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Firestone  
ginsters sponsored
 Kerb Crawlers
Ford GT40 MkI GT 1967 14 +3.969
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19 DNS ---
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Goodyear  
2 UKGPL_T7
 
Porsche 910 GT 1967 20 ---
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Dunlop  
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« Reply #60 on: November 13, 2010, 12:00:53 PM +0000 »

Great fun and close racing through the field it seems.  I really like this mod, compliments go to the creators and developers.

Had a good tussle with Fulvio in the second part of the race only to mess up on the last lap and hand the position back to FMG.

Had another good fight with Fulvio again at Monza! Great racing with you Smiley

I hope to get something together for regular fun races with these things over the next few weeks.  Hopefully my new server will handle it.  Unfortunately the next 2 weekends are out for making solid arrangements as my son has a martial arts graduation.

We'll get something sorted though.

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« Reply #61 on: November 13, 2010, 12:23:16 PM +0000 »

well i was having a good race last night till clive stuck a "hit me" sticker on my rear going into stowe ...

after that one of our german friends tagged me twice at the same spot and then finally tried to mount me exiting turn one , i left the track followed by a very large black dog .

woof woof

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« Reply #62 on: November 13, 2010, 12:39:29 PM +0000 »

Any problems were related to my own PC rather than the mod which is great.

I took the Porsche as I've only done a few laps in the others and it was fun to see how easily it closed on the others under braking but couldn't overtake them in my hands.

The battle with Blito was good fun and the gap see-sawed at every corner. Interestingly though we could both pass each other at various places which added to the fun.

I do need to fix my PC issues though but I'll post elsewhere about them
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« Reply #63 on: November 13, 2010, 02:17:56 PM +0000 »

What a lovelly car the 910 is - I've just done a quick run with it at silverstone using the default setup (Adjusted gears and steering lock) and within 3 laps I'd beaten my FL from last night in the Sherman Tank despite still having 20 laps worth of fuel left  Roll Eyes

It's very interesting seeing the performance differences of the cars and their strengths and weeknesses as you go around the circuit - something that Sebring highlighted even more after the race until I lost connection.
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« Reply #64 on: November 13, 2010, 02:36:23 PM +0000 »

My car details look fine Tim.

Apologies to John for the tap at Stowe, but I plead "New Car Syndrome". I noticed that you got tagged a few more times by the other 2D driver. It would appear from what I saw in the race that the collision boxes are very much tighter to the cars than we have been used to in the open wheel mods and maybe the fact that there are no wheels sticking out to climb over improves the chances of surviving a contact....time will tell Roll Eyes

I have to say that I was really caught out by how early you braked in the Lola compared to the Chappy Barge I was driving. I would have expected the Lola to be better balanced and that it would have gone deeper into the corner than the 2D?? But I have not tried the T70 yet so maybe my preconceptions are wrong.
I did try and miss you by going wide , but as we are all discovering these cars are wider than we are used to and maybe not quite so agile. Undecided

I think the mods have scored an absolute massive hit with this GT mod. This is something completely different, requiring a different approach especially if we have some long races where, the hinted at, reliability gremlin will come into play  Roll Eyes

I took the 2D Chappy because I had tried the 2F and comfortably won a practice race on Thursday evening in my first ever try out of this new mod. So I thought I would opt for something slightly slower and see what fun I could have . Pleased to find that I was not too far off the pace, but I was also getting used to the information overload from the new pribluda display.

Most interesting is the "oil temp" display, something I have not had before and it turns red when the engine is abused Grin how dammed clever and useful. That should be handy in the Waza where although I rarely blow engines, maybe there is scope for a bit more aggression ??

I would agree that any GT races or series this season should be on a "fun" basis, as it will take us time to get to know all these cars and the setups which certainly look totally alien to me at the moment.
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« Reply #65 on: November 13, 2010, 04:36:28 PM +0000 »

I decided to use the "Live Camera" to view the other cars at the end of quali and couldn't work out to get back in my own car after a comfort break. Ahem :'( Smiley

Was getting more outta the MkI in quali and feel I'd have given the other brave Ford Pilots a run for there money in race. Shame, as a complete noob, I never got that far. I'll try to take more GT races if you have them.

My thanks to those involved in the mod.
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« Reply #66 on: November 13, 2010, 08:23:13 PM +0000 »

ok so now i`m working on my GT rank...

just done a 44:00.98 targa florio lap .. only had to shift-r 37  times Cheesy
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« Reply #67 on: November 14, 2010, 10:01:00 PM +0000 »

What a lovelly car the 910 is - I've just done a quick run with it at silverstone using the default setup (Adjusted gears and steering lock) and within 3 laps I'd beaten my FL from last night in the Sherman Tank despite still having 20 laps worth of fuel left  Roll Eyes

It's very interesting seeing the performance differences of the cars and their strengths and weeknesses as you go around the circuit - something that Sebring highlighted even more after the race until I lost connection.

Oh you DO make me feel good - I did 20 laps and got a best of 1:37 Sad I was feeling like I was getting to grips with it better than the Grand Prix cars <sigh>. Maybe not laugh
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« Reply #68 on: November 14, 2010, 11:44:45 PM +0000 »

It's only 5 seconds Paul. And you are improving so I have no doubt you'll be getting quicker still over the next 6 months and more  Smiley


H seems to have a new honor from this race - although he'll have to wait for the update to find out what that is Wink
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« Reply #69 on: November 15, 2010, 01:51:26 AM +0000 »

It's only 5 seconds Paul. And you are improving so I have no doubt you'll be getting quicker still over the next 6 months and more  Smiley


H seems to have a new honor from this race - although he'll have to wait for the update to find out what that is Wink

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« Reply #70 on: November 15, 2010, 08:04:27 AM +0000 »

Thanks for the encouragement (ONLY 5 secs heehee).

I still think you should have been in the Porsche H Cheesy

Taking a fast car is cheating...
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« Reply #71 on: November 15, 2010, 09:04:01 AM +0000 »

I have now had a a few days to digest this experience and I am still not really sure what to make of it. A great new mod of cause it`s just that in my hands they seem to need some practice to go fast. Well, I did not have the time to do that before this event and the result speaks for it self.

Most of the race I was chasing Martin, first closing the gap and then making some silly mistake and then closing it again until Martin near the end made a mistake and I could pass him. The positive thing in the result was that, if I am counting right, I was the highest climber, starting 18Th and finishing 10Th. But that may have been because I did not get a quali lap in after some technical issues. OK so I did better my PB in the race with some 2.5 sec but that only made 13Th fastest lap in the race. Maybe if I am to look for positive aspects, the fact that I did not need to do any shift-R`s and I did not get lapped is something to bring home from this event.

The car I picked was due to the chat before the race but it seems that only H could make that car go fast, and he can make anything go fast so that is no surprise. Lola and Chaparral seems to be the best if you look at the result.

I am hoping to find some time to try out the different cars and working on the setup for the next event. Now the problem is it seems that I am closing up on the time to spare limit and I am beginning to maybe spread myself a bit too thin here. But I do not know what to let go of so........

Anyway it was really nice to see the number of drivers and I am sure that the future for the mod is promising.

Grats to Stefan and podium and thanks all for the experience.

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« Reply #72 on: November 15, 2010, 09:14:29 AM +0000 »

Thanks for the encouragement (ONLY 5 secs heehee).

I still think you should have been in the Porsche H Cheesy

Taking a fast car is cheating...

Fast? I was barely able to keep up with the front runners and Juha was definitely out of reach in that Chaparel. I don't think M1 is that fast, it's lacking some power. Not as much as the Porsche though...  Roll Eyes

Had a rather good race, but with the issues of front wheels locking up completely on corner entry, I had that happen 3 times which cost me the race. Good fun nonetheless. It's very difficult to pass in these cars because you can't push them too much and get away with it. The slipstream isn't so strong either, so Qualifying and making no mistakes in the Race is more important.

P.S. Goran, sorry if you got misled by my talk to take the M1. It's definitely not the most powerful thing around, though it has decent handling when set-up properly.
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« Reply #73 on: November 15, 2010, 10:57:54 AM +0000 »

Hristo's comments about the front brakes locking are interesting and i have to say that although perhaps my experience was not quite as he described I did have similar probs.

I have tried a couple of these cars so far and with the exception of the Porsche , which handles more like a 65 on steroids!!  Grin great fun and it has to be the easiest car to drive out of this bunch, they all seem to require very precise braking technique and setup. Or is it just me??

Unless I dial in somewhere between 50-52% brake balance, and make sure that I am getting off the brakes before turn in, the cars work just like snow ploughs!! It feels like a real car on ice, with the front wheels locked and everything moving on the same trajectory as when the brakes were first applied and at a scary speed!!
Having said that when I do manage to ease off the brakes and squeeze on the gas just right, things begin to feel good and the car actually does corner quite well(ish).
I guess the bottom line is that the mods have been quite clever in giving us something that probably represents ( as far as the physics of GPL allow) the problems and driving style of that era. It's gonna take some time to sort these cars out and get to grips with the possibilities of the setups and the higher values for every parameter.
Although we have several GT40's, they appear to be totally different beasts as far as driving them. I'm currently trying out the MkIV and that is a real bucketful of iron and inertia!!! Roll Eyes
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« Reply #74 on: November 15, 2010, 11:37:37 AM +0000 »

Definitely not just you because even I can drive the Porsche (sort of) whereas the other cars are like giraffes on stilts! The biggest problem with this mod is that it is just too addictive - I should be practicing for Castle Combe in the 65 - not crashing at Sebring Smiley

I still await pronouncements from the WazaMeisters as to which GT I shall be allowed to drive by HER gracious permission. Must handle like a dog, be heavy and slow and REALLY tough to master Cheesy
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