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  • S20H Mexico City: November 30, 2010
November 30, 2010, 11:19:53 PM +0000 - Mexico City (1962-1979) - UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Historic Trophy (66)
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Dave Randall
 
Ferrari 312 (1966) F1 1966 4 +2.656
100.292mph
1 51:09.323
98.366mph
27 1:52.132
99.722mph
Firestone  
fpolicardi
 Team7
Brabham BT19 (Repco) F1 1966 3 +2.482
100.449mph
2 +4.808
98.212mph
27 1:50.774
100.945mph
Goodyear  
Al Heller
 Clark-Hill Racing
Lotus 43 (BRM) F1 1966 5 +3.248
99.762mph
3 +6.599
98.155mph
27 1:51.689
100.118mph
Firestone  
G Jonsson
 Black Night Racing
BRM P83 F1 1966 9 +4.897
98.316mph
4 +1:18.723
95.906mph
27 1:53.716
98.333mph
Goodyear  
bernie
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Cooper T81 (Maserati) F1 1966 11 +5.895
97.461mph
5 +1:25.644
95.695mph
27 1:53.100
98.869mph
Firestone  
Phil Thornton
 Antipasti Racing
Ferrari 312 (1966) F1 1966 8 +4.816
98.386mph
6 +1:27.447
95.641mph
27 1:52.914
99.032mph
Firestone  
Nigel Smith
 HikiWazaRacing
Honda RA273 F1 1966 12 +6.543
96.913mph
7 +1L
92.519mph
26 1:55.638
96.699mph
Goodyear  
BookieW
 HikiWazaRacing
Ferrari 312 (1966) F1 1966 13 +8.237
95.511mph
8 +21L
89.027mph
6 1:57.740
94.973mph
Disco
Firestone  
maddog
 Antipasti Racing
Brabham BT19 (Repco) F1 1966 6 +3.516
99.524mph
9 +22L
88.013mph
5 1:59.233
93.783mph
DQ
Goodyear  
kinghiro
 Clark-Hill Racing
Cooper T81 (Maserati) F1 1966 2 +2.129
100.768mph
10 +23L
97.092mph
4 1:53.046
98.916mph
Disco
Firestone  
Podkrecony_Ziutek
 Clark-Hill Racing
Brabham BT19 (Repco) F1 1966 7 +3.708
99.355mph
11 +26L
92.192mph
1 1:59.867
93.287mph
unknown
Goodyear  
Hristo Itchov
 HikiWazaRacing
McLaren M2B (Ford) F1 1966 1 1:48.839
102.740mph
12 +27L
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0 ---
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Disco
Firestone  
vosblod
 Clark-Hill Racing
Brabham BT19 (Repco) F1 1966 10 +4.914
98.301mph
13
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0 ---
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Disco
Goodyear  
Al Heller
 Clark-Hill Racing
BRM P83 F1 1966 14 DNS ---
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Goodyear  
2 UKGPL_T7
 
Cooper T81 (Maserati) F1 1966 14 15 ---
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Firestone  

Moderator's Report

Dave Randall took his first win of the season in this eventful race. Fulvio did a impressive recovery race to snap second form Al at the last lap.

There were no incidents reported for this event but maybe it should have been.

There are two issues that need to be discussed.

First, an incident report is about bringing an incident to the moderator`s attention. The incident is then looked into and discussed among the mod team to see if any action need to be taken to futher improve the allready high standard of driving here at UKGPL. Sometime there are violations against the rules and penaltys will be handed out but that should not be the main reason to submit a incident report.

There will be a minor change in the race announcements thread.

”Moderating will be by reported incidents only, however the moderator reserve the right to review any incident with a particular emphasise on lap one.”

Will be changed to ”the moderator will review any incident on lap one,”

Then there is the matter of high risk driving.
Make sure that if you like to take big risks in your driving, please do that when you are alone on the track.
Absolute not at the beginning of the race when there are a lot of cars around you, and you are on race fuel and cold tires. Also keep in mind that you just before the start, in quali, was on warm tires with a low fuel car. It is a good idea to at the end of quali do some race fuel, cold tires tests. Only make sure you do not get in the way of anybody else of cause.

Look at the hole picture of the race. The race is rather long, 27 laps this time, if you by taking big risks manage to gain some positions at the start of the race how are you going to keep that position if the drivers you passed are faster than you? On the other hand the possibility of ruin someones race, maybe your own, is very high.

It has been said over and over but it need to be said again it seems: To finish first, first you have to finish.

SimRacing.org.uk Lap Records
Grand Prix Legends
F1 1966
1:48.839
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Hristo Itchov
Qualifying
McLaren M2B (Ford)November 30, 2010, 11:19:53 PM +0000
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« on: November 26, 2010, 09:39:11 AM +0000 »

Now, for the 3rd round of the Historic Throphy, should have been 4th of cause but.......... we go to Mexico. The well known papy track should not give anybody andy problems right? Well anyway all are wellcome.

There will be chassis restrictions for this one based on the championship standings. Se below.

Please restrict chat to a minimum, (or maybe none).

Moderating will be by reported incidents only, however the moderator reserve the right to review any incident with a particular emphasise on lap one. Please submit incident reports within a week after the race so that the moderators report may be out before the next race.

Best of luck.
 
Race List =         iGOR
Server =            UKGPL_T7_2
IP Address =       62.149.202.168
Race date =       30-11-2010
Time =              21.00 UK time
Track =             Mexico 1967
Variant =           66F1 3L engines
Damage Model =  PRO
Qualifying time = 35 minutes. Do not start until 30 min left.
Race length =     Pro Long (27 laps)

The track can be downloaded from: Papy track



Group I
Mclaren M2B Ford
T1G Eagle Weslake


Group II
Lotus 43 BRM Ford       
BRM P83 
 


GroupIII
Ferrari 312
Brabham BT19
Cooper T81
Honda RA273
 

Drivers Restricted to cars from Group I
Hristo Itchov
EvilClive


Drivers Restricted to cars form Group II
Al Heller
Göran Jonsson

All other drivers have free chassis choice.

Password: see above
(2) Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page





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« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2010, 07:53:22 PM +0000 »

Looks like I am going to miss this race as I am away on business  Undecided at least I might get dropped to a group 2 car or better next time  Grin
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« Reply #2 on: November 30, 2010, 12:32:27 PM +0000 »

I've caught a bad case of lurgie so will have to pass on onights race  Sad

Sorry guys, hope you have a good one
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« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2010, 07:24:30 PM +0000 »

Still no iGOR race list so I guess we will have to connect direct to the server IP 62.149.202.168

Remember to pic the right car in GEM+ and go to multiplayer and connect using PW and IP address.

We meet in iGOR chat as usually some time before 21.00 UK time.

Göran

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« Reply #4 on: November 30, 2010, 07:37:09 PM +0000 »

I have a spare evening so think I will give this a go - not very experienced with the 66's but will keep out of your way  Wink
I've put myself in as a reserve.
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« Reply #5 on: November 30, 2010, 10:21:12 PM +0000 »

What a total waste of time. I had to endure through the problems with the server and Qualifying running more than half an hour later just so Bartosz could take me out at T1 despite having half a track for himself on the inside. My McLaren was obviously no match for the other cars on the start, so I lost a couple of positions, but some people just refuse to realize they can't win on lap 1... I'm disgusted with this.

And BTW, when you warp badly, it's YOUR responsibility to make sure and keep a distance from other cars, so don't dare blame warp contact for erratic driving.
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« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2010, 10:37:49 PM +0000 »

Really enjoyed this one . good feel good float. A bit stressy start with Dave close behind and a mishift (5th instead of 3 rd) gave him a free chance to pass as I fiddled with getting it back quick.Guess he would have got me sooner or later anyway but once behind him the float was really good and I had advantage of the slip. Don t think I would managed to win but I matched Daves speed (when behind at least) and it would have been exciting. then disconnect.The air totally out of gpl balloon now. Next race I m on vacation. I ll give it one more try and if it happens again I go back to my old screen resolution. No idea why it would matter but thats the only thing I ve changed since this started to happen.I was good at spec and I hoped it was that fix I forgot to put in castle combe was the reason for my dc there.Good luck to the rest. At least I ll get to drive cooper next season too it seem Smiley
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« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2010, 10:45:23 PM +0000 »

Well a few problems that delayed the start. Goran was not to blame and did a brilliant job under the circumstances, we found there are issues with the best way to start this mod with no IGOR racelist and the only way to sort it was trial and error (thanks Fulvio) - come back racelist  Undecided

Anyway, firstly I have to retract my partial statement to Paul that setups don't count. I had 40 mins to try the mod on this (not my favorite) track before the event and the only setup I had was for the Lotus 43. Try as I might I was stuck at 1.59. Just before the start Al H kindly gave me his setup and immediately in Qually I got a 1.53 which at least meant I might get some racing.
I think the moral is stick with a good base setup and work on your driving first but admit when you have an appallingly bad setup and change it LOL.

So the race; Quallied at the lower end but looked like I might have some fun. Got an OK start and I was aware Goran was on my right down the straight, plan was to ease in behind him. Suddenly I saw Hristo facing the wrong way and did my best to get round safely but clipped Goran's back end in the process - big apology, did my best at evasive action.
After that I was out of sorts, chewed the gravel and got stuck for good - short inaugural 66 for me.


PS: not commenting on your incident H but check the server replay too - my one showed warp.
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« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2010, 11:07:04 PM +0000 »

I'm sorry Hristo that your race ended like this, but you will not provoke me to discuss it on forum. Wait for server replay and report incident.
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« Reply #9 on: November 30, 2010, 11:23:14 PM +0000 »

Decent histerical result for once , though mostly down to retirements  Cheesy Was P4 at one time then made a pigs ear of corner after polo straight and almost got stuck in the bunker , lost 2 or 3 places then had a great time time chasing Phil down managed to get the tow down the straight and just squeezed past him as he ran a little wide going into T2 . 

Grats to the Pods and commiserations to the rest

Thanks for the fun,  was worth all the start up hassles , I'm still way down in the 66 rank and file , need to do better  Roll Eyes

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« Reply #10 on: November 30, 2010, 11:25:56 PM +0000 »

I seemed to have a bit of a warpy connection in qually so I disconnected and reconnected but still seemed bad.  Since I qualified mid pack I didn't want to cause problems at the start so I decided to start from the pit lane.

Start was OK for me, but I was 15 seconds behind the last man before I even got going LOL.  No problem though, within a couple of laps I started to get of the back of the pack. Made some progress mainly through people crashing or spinning.  At one stage I got up to 5th and was challenging Goran but I managed to spin and lost ground.  So with about 15 laps to go I decided to try to manage the gap back to Bernie who I'd passed earlier whilst he was in the gravel at T3.  Bernie had other ideas and started to close me down.  With 5 laps to go I still felt confident of staying ahead.  With 3 laps to go I was getting a bit worried.  With 2 laps to go I ran wide in T1 and Bernie nipped through on the inside.  Red mist down but I couldn't catch him, Bernie had a good hundred yards on me when we crossed the line.

Nice racing Bernie.  If you were sweating in your loft in this weather you must have been trying!  clap
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« Reply #11 on: November 30, 2010, 11:49:16 PM +0000 »

Less said about the race, the better. Picked my way through the early mess and after a lap or two noticed my pitboard [ still cant get Prib working perfectly] said 4th. What, hey, a mistake surely. Whatever the reason my race went to pieces. A couple of stupid spins and I soon found my position gone.Then the middle of the race was awful, and I resolved to get to the finish, which I eventually did.
Technical question for Guru's- went to check my replay and it crashed GPL. Checked other replay's , they are fine apart from those saved under my 66mod, all of which crash GPL. Anyone able to point me towards a solution?
Well done to the podium and all the others able to enjoy a race.
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« Reply #12 on: November 30, 2010, 11:57:26 PM +0000 »

Aha. I may have a partial answer to my own question. I can watch my replay through GEM-GPL, but not through GPL alone.

Mystified-Waza.
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« Reply #13 on: December 01, 2010, 12:09:39 AM +0000 »

Aha. I may have a partial answer to my own question. I can watch my replay through GEM-GPL, but not through GPL alone.

Mystified-Waza.


To see any mod with GPL alone you have to set it hitting the Vroc button before, so he builds even the GPL.exe with the right mod.
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« Reply #14 on: December 01, 2010, 12:58:02 AM +0000 »

Aha. I may have a partial answer to my own question. I can watch my replay through GEM-GPL, but not through GPL alone.

Mystified-Waza.


Fulvio is right, but there's an even easier way, try opening your gpl directory in Explorer, which should be C:\SIERRA\gpl, and doubleclick on gplc66.exe .

It sounds like your trying to open a 1966 mod replay with your 1967 standard installation. This won't work since there are more than seven cars in the 1966 mod. 1965 and 1969 mods will open no problem even if you see the wrong cars in action.

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