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  • S20Gr VIR: December 05, 2010
December 05, 2010, 09:59:47 PM +0000 - VIR (Full) - UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Graduates Cup (67) Works
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
EvilClive
 HikiWazaRacing
Honda RA300 F1 1967 3 +3.046
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1 50:28.561
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27 1:50.916
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Firestone  
FullMetalGasket
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 5 +3.619
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2 +9.306
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27 1:51.195
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Goodyear  
Podkrecony_Ziutek
 Clark-Hill Racing
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 6 +3.885
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3 +53.194
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27 1:51.907
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Goodyear  
john roberts
 
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 11 +5.887
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4 +1:21.618
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27 1:53.098
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Goodyear  
Baab
 
BRM P115 F1 1967 10 +5.624
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5 +4L
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23 1:51.984
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Goodyear  
Tom van Ostade
 
Ferrari 312 (1967) F1 1967 2 +1.338
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6 +9L
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18 1:49.871
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Firestone  
Samb
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 9 +4.772
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7 +12L
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15 1:52.308
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Goodyear  
Al Heller
 Clark-Hill Racing
Cooper T81b (Maserati) F1 1967 7 +3.946
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8 +21L
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6 1:53.092
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Firestone  
jhalli
 
Ferrari 312 (1967) F1 1967 8 +4.741
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9 +22L
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5 1:51.822
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Firestone  
Rick Nauman
 
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 4 +3.402
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10 +26L
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1 2:02.279
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Goodyear  
vosblod
 Clark-Hill Racing
Cooper T81b (Maserati) F1 1967 11 +24.016
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1 2:23.583
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Firestone  
Hristo Itchov
 HikiWazaRacing
Honda RA300 F1 1967 1 1:47.843
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12 +27L
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0 ---
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Firestone  
john roberts
 
Lotus 49 (Cosworth) F1 1967 13 DNS ---
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Firestone  
5 UKGPL.67
 
Ferrari 312 (1967) F1 1967 14 ---
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Firestone  

Moderator's Report

A win for Evil in this one still doesn't put him at the top but won't do any harm in his quest for the Championship. Tom still leads over Hristo.
No reported incidents.

December 06, 2010, 01:07:55 PM +0000 - VIR (Full) - UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Graduates Cup (67) Privateers
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
bernie
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Cooper T81b (Maserati) F1 1967 2 +0.905
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1 53:08.865
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27 1:55.409
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Firestone  
il_lupo_mannaro
 
Cooper T81b (Maserati) F1 1967 3 +1.795
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2 +31.767
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27 1:55.041
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Firestone  
Nigel Smith
 HikiWazaRacing
Honda RA300 F1 1967 5 +4.296
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3 +1:37.202
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27 1:56.467
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Firestone  
maddog
 Antipasti Racing
BRM P115 F1 1967 8 +8.699
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4 +1:54.417
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27 1:57.301
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Goodyear  
hannah
 
Cooper T81b (Maserati) F1 1967 7 +6.774
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5 (+1) +1:58.150
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27 1:57.071
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Firestone  
BadBlood
 HikiWazaRacing
Honda RA300 F1 1967 10 +26.565
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6 +5L
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22 2:13.383
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Firestone  
Billy Nobrakes
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 4 +3.061
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7 (+1) +7L
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20 1:55.283
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Goodyear  
Ronniepeterson
 
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 1 1:52.884
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8 +14L
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13 1:54.236
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Goodyear  
Michael Turner
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Cooper T81b (Maserati) F1 1967 6 +4.665
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9 +25L
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2 2:12.755
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Firestone  
BadBlood
 HikiWazaRacing
Lotus 49 (Cosworth) F1 1967 10 DNS ---
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Firestone  
fpolicardi
 Team7
Ferrari 312 (1967) F1 1967 9 +19.407
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11 ---
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Firestone  
2 UKGPL_T7
 
Lotus 49 (Cosworth) F1 1967 12 ---
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Firestone  

Moderator's Report

Bernie's second win of the season leaves him top of the championship with Ronnie and Fabio following on. Someone forgot the stop in Stop and Go plus one incident (see below).


Server replay time: 0h05m18s

Billy takes a pit in following a reset at 03m29s. However he does not actually completely stop.
The Rules have this;

Incorrect Pit Stop
If a driver makes a pit stop (either mandatory or a S&G due to a Shift-R) but fails to bring the car to rest in the stalls. The moderator may decide an unfair advantage has been gained and consequently a time penalty may be applied equal to 3 times the number of seconds gained. Where the number of seconds gained cannot be determined with any confidence, the moderator may decide to impose a standard 5 second penalty.

Accordingly a 5 second time penalty will apply. If this was habitual or did not appear to be an oversight consideration could have been given to treating it as failing to comply with the Graduates Shift/R rules with a resultant Disqualification.


Server replay time: 0h43m21s

MH is running slightly behind and to the right of HH as they run down towards Horseshoe, he can be clearly seen in HH's mirrors. MH is beginning an attempt to pass on the inside as they approach the corner which could be considered a somewhat risque manouver, but not illegal. HH takes an unusual line, compared to previous laps, and begins to turn in right much sooner then normal. This effectively shuts off the window which MH appears committed to.
On the face of it this incident constitutes a rear end shunt by MH and there was no overlap. However Hannah turns in far earlier then normal knowing Martin is closing on the right behind him. This looks like, a conscious or not, attempt to close the gap through which Martin is attempting to squeeze.
The Rules have this;

Blatant Blocking/Weaving: Penalty 2 Places
The blocking driver changed his line in RESPONSE to the following car's movement and after the following car was committed to his line. Contact is made

However in recognition of the fact that the attempted manouver was somewhat ambitious and Hannah did not make a sudden move to the right, more a covering manouver, this penalty will be reduced by 1 place.

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« Reply #45 on: December 05, 2010, 06:29:37 PM +0000 »

Sorry, your right it was a problem at my end which is fixed now.
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« Reply #46 on: December 05, 2010, 06:54:51 PM +0000 »

I think that some people do not have VROC wheras all of us can join a '67 race via GPL Multiplayer screen.

Less complex to organise maybe?
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« Reply #47 on: December 05, 2010, 07:41:40 PM +0000 »

If its hosted by VROC you will still have the option to join by IP  Smiley

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« Reply #48 on: December 05, 2010, 08:25:12 PM +0000 »

If its hosted by VROC you will still have the option to join by IP  Smiley



Yeah, it doesn't change a thing for those who want to join manually.
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« Reply #49 on: December 05, 2010, 08:32:05 PM +0000 »

Maybe it's a silly question: why it's not possible to host both races with VROC tonight?
The servers are geared up for IGOR and, tbh, I have always struggled to host on VROC - trust me it's safer this way Wink

Anyway IP addresses;

Works (UKGPL_5) : ping myjamesonline.net (currently 90.195.125.43 )
Privateers (UKGPL_T7_2) : 62.149.202.168

To avoid a Bandwidth Mismatch it's best to set your core.ini to 3/84 - 3/384 which should get you onto anything.
Also they probably won't go into the 'newspaper' section at the end of the race until I go in and manually save the replays and shut them. They will just sit on 'complete' at the end.
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« Reply #50 on: December 05, 2010, 09:47:22 PM +0000 »

Screen freeze just 1 second after the start, at the precise moment I crossed the s/f line. Fantastic track...  Grin
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« Reply #51 on: December 05, 2010, 10:00:12 PM +0000 »

Screen freeze just 1 second after the start, at the precise moment I crossed the s/f line.

yep same here - screen freeze after a few laps...  cursing
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« Reply #52 on: December 05, 2010, 10:20:00 PM +0000 »

Early bath for me. Go Bernie!
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« Reply #53 on: December 05, 2010, 10:25:17 PM +0000 »

black screen after maybe 4 laps on back straight   Tongue


very unusual i get black screen  Huh


the track was quite nice flow , a bit shame it ended this way again.
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« Reply #54 on: December 05, 2010, 10:56:20 PM +0000 »

My race ended the old fashioned way, while comfortably in the lead! Argh. However, kudo's to the guy who designed the scoring system, as I still get some points for the effort unlike the scoring system at GPLRacer, where you only score points if you finish. Now I feel only mildly frustrated Grin .

Grats to Evil, Tim and Bartosz.

Tom.
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« Reply #55 on: December 05, 2010, 11:20:42 PM +0000 »

Not a great race.
Excellent start took me from P4 to P2 but mangaed to get the car sideways into T1 which caused some pandemonium behind (SORRY to all concerned) - my replay shows everyone got through unscathed. Managed several trips to scenery in the first few laps - managed to string 10 good laps together but then missed a corner span where Badboood was recovering. Used up my life-line shift R earlier so that was it for me.
For what its worth - great track.
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« Reply #56 on: December 05, 2010, 11:40:42 PM +0000 »

I'll say this now -
if we went VROC I'd resign, believe me it's like stepping in to the middle ages and not worth my hassle - someone said, I forget who it was Mike, if it's not fun I'd walk away. That aside I have both replays saved.
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« Reply #57 on: December 05, 2010, 11:57:34 PM +0000 »

Sneakily took out Billy to gain a place by brilliantly parking where he was spinning...

I was on the point of giving up when I noticed Ronnie had stopped... gave me a fresh lease of life and although I didn't actually manage any laps without investigating the grass, spinning or generally rebuilding the fences i plodded on and finished sixth. My best ever.

Slightly ashamed of it.
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« Reply #58 on: December 06, 2010, 12:03:56 AM +0000 »

I'll say this now -
if we went VROC I'd resign, believe me it's like stepping in to the middle ages and not worth my hassle - someone said, I forget who it was Mike, if it's not fun I'd walk away. That aside I have both replays saved.

Sorry, but I don't understand what all that fuss is all about. VROC is so simple to use and doesn't require to do anything on the server side. For running 67s especially - you just host the race and that's it. Anyone can do it and VROC itself is, excuse me, much better in some departments than Igor. It's a robust piece of software and just because it lacks features doesn't make it bad or unworthy.

Anyway, I don't see a problem joining manually either, as long as the server hosting the race is set up and launched with the help of GEM+ properly.
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« Reply #59 on: December 06, 2010, 08:58:14 AM +0000 »

A great circuit, but a shame that it has some problems with freezes.

I had managed to get a few laps practice in around here before the race and had used Hristo’s video lap as a benchmark. I was certain that his lap of 1:51 was not going to be his best and fully expected him to get sub 1:50. Even so his 1:48 qually lap was impressive.

I was more than content with my 3rd spot behind Tom with a 1:50 lap, especially as I had done that with race fuel on board and although pushing that hard had warmed the tyres somewhat, it was good to know that I had that sort of pace for early in the race if I needed it.

Hristo suffered a freeze as he moved off the grid and I was worried in case it was a Klingon Cloaking move and he was going to re-appear on my bonnet at T1!!. Fortunately, all I could see as we approached T2 was Tommie’s exhausts ahead and Tim’s Brabby nose behind. I knew that it would take a couple of laps to get the tyres settled, if I could afford to relax that much with Tim behind!!
It seems that I had enough pace to keep Tim where I wanted him ( 50 yds or more behind ) but Tom in front was just a fraction faster than I was prepared to risk at this early stage and he crept slowly away. After a few laps Tim must have had a small prob because he dropped back and I was able to relax and concentrate on stringing a few good laps together. The setup was just about perfect and I found that I could comfortably do 1:51 laps without overheating the tyres or the engine.
About half way and I almost caught Tom recovering from an excursion on to the green stuff, but could not quite get hooked onto his tail pipes and he drew away again. Tim dropped further behind and I had quite a lonely race once Tom had crept away over the horizon.
I had a momentary lapse of concentration at one point and had several minor excursions on one lap as I totally lost my rythmn and had to back off slightly and rebuild my pace.
 It was not until the last few laps that I realised that Tom had quit and that I was in the lead !! now I was really stressed and started short shifting to protect the engine and with 7 laps to go I glanced at the fuel guage and wondered if there was enough left in the tank. I monitored the fuel over the next 2 laps and was relieved to find I had a couple of gallons to spare, so I cruised to a very surprising win, but some points that I badly needed after a poor start to this seasons racing.

Grats to all 4 finishers and commiserations to those who got frozen out……
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