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  • S20N Spa: December 07, 2010
December 07, 2010, 09:47:37 PM +0000 - Spa (GPL) - UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Novices Trophy (65)
Driver
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Artiglietti
 
Cooper T77 (Climax) F1 1965 2 +0.183
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1 37:04.126
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10 3:41.066
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Dunlop  
il_lupo_mannaro
 
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 5 +1.561
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2 +13.513
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10 3:40.099
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Dunlop  
Ross Neilson
 Clark-Hill Racing
Brabham BT7 (Climax) F1 1965 6 +4.149
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3 +25.784
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10 3:42.343
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Dunlop  
Ronniepeterson
 
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 4 +1.542
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4 +36.023
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10 3:39.831
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Dunlop  
miner2049er
 Clark-Hill Racing
Cooper T77 (Climax) F1 1965 8 +5.210
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5 +36.844
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10 3:43.034
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Dunlop  
blito
 Nessuna Speranza
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 10 +6.169
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6 +53.441
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10 3:43.188
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Dunlop  
Nigel Smith
 HikiWazaRacing
Honda RA272 F1 1965 11 +6.381
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7 +55.827
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10 3:41.972
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Goodyear  
maddog
 Antipasti Racing
Cooper T77 (Climax) F1 1965 12 +6.553
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8 +57.713
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10 3:41.448
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Dunlop  
norbert
 Antipasti Racing
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 7 +4.808
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9 (+3) +1:10.740
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10 3:44.249
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Dunlop  
roguk
 Clark-Hill Racing
Cooper T77 (Climax) F1 1965 9 +5.757
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10 +1:11.128
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10 3:42.079
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Dunlop  
NHance
 Mountside Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 1 3:38.970
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11 +1:17.782
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10 3:41.083
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Goodyear  
adamg67
 
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 3 +1.085
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12 (+2) +7L
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3 3:41.731
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Goodyear  
Billy Nobrakes
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 13 DNS ---
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Goodyear  
happyal
 Clark-Hill Racing
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 14 ---
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Dunlop  
5 UKGPL.65
 
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 15 ---
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Goodyear  

Moderator's Report

Spa is a truly classic circuit and always brings some good close racing, none more close than Mike and Ronnie through Masta. How anybody can drive so closely with their eyes closed I'll never know.

The race wasn't without incident but was perhaps the cleanest of the season so far.

Martin Hunt continued his tradition of not completing a single lap on the circuit. Well done!

After the Christmas break we have 5 great tracks that will bring a thrilling close to the season.


Server replay time: 0h02m55s

MHunt and Norbert enter Stavelot side by side. Norbert can see MHunt on the inside but turns in too sharply.
The server shows no contact and the reaction of Norbert's Ferrari suggests Warp is involved but he clearly cut across MHunt who had his own spin following the incident.
MHunt is ahead at one point but having the inside line and the slower car, the cars are almost level at turn in.
Martin claimed responsibility for this incident but the moderators disagree. Norbert should have known Martin was there as he could clearly be seen and heard.

Unfortunately for Norbert, this is a lap 1 incident which adds an extra penalty place.
Norbert also took a SHIFTR with no SnG but seeing as it is almost Christmas I will waive the 30 second penalty as the 3 lost places is deemed sufficent.


Server replay time: 0h15m25s

Adam approaches La Source and brakes far too late.
As Fabio turns in to take the corner Adam hits him.
Adam has no overlap and simply out braked himself.
Adam was also having screen stutter problems in the race and retired following this incident.


Server replay time: 0h21m25s

So the trickiest incident of the moderation then, NHance is slow out of Malmedy and RogUK gains on him and attempts a pass on the left hand side while Norbert uses his superior power and exit speed to attempt a pass on the right hand side.
NHance had started to drift left but seeing RogUK he drifts right again where Norbert is squeezing past.
When Norbert starts his pass there is plenty of room and he is fully entitled to attempt a pass, though a more sensible approach would have been to do it on the run to Stavelot, but it is a valid overtake attempt and he does get alongside NHance.
Seeing NHance moving towards him he reacts by driving onto the grass and fights for control then moves back on to the tarmac where NHance now is beside him.
At this point I think Norbert is out of control but he is almost past NHance when the 2 collide and collect a helpless RogUK.

This was a tricky one because NHance moves across track a couple of times and Norbert loses control, so either could be penalised but because it is considered a valid overtake attempt I have classed it as a Contested Side by Side contact which penalises neither driver.
We do not want to discourage side by side racing or even in this case, 3 abreast racing and this was just an unfortunate incident.

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 0h31m20s

Fabio passes Ronnie on the run down to Burnenville and they enter the left hander side by side but Ronnie takes too tight a line and suffers a warp contact from Fabio's Ferrari.
Fabio does drift out towards the centre line but Ronnie has already warped by that time.

Warp Incident

  • Racing incident

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« on: December 06, 2010, 08:04:11 PM +0000 »

UKGPL Season 20 Novices Trophy (1965 Mod) Race 5 December 7th

Round 5 of the Novices Season 20 and we reach the halfway point where we take on the unique challenge of Spa. So over inflate your tyres, remove all ballast, crank up the gears and off we go.

Spa is one of the finest racing venues in the world and has been since its inception in 1920. Drivers should ensure that they take care when taking advantage of the slipstream following previous incidents on this circuit. Remember, there may be more cars following you than you think.

Car needs to be taken at Eau Rouge on Lap 1 as the field will bunch up. This is not the place for making Lap 1 Turn 1 do or die manouevres. You cannot win the race in turn 1 but you can certainly lose it, and more importantly you can lose the race for those around you, beside you and on occasion under you.

Please see the Novices registration thread for an explanation of the chassis allocations shown below:
http://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=8416.0

FULL TIME
DRIVER  
 CHASSIS  
Vosblod
Cooper
NHance
BT11
Miner2049er
Cooper
Il_Lupo
Ferrari
Billy NoBrakes
BT11
HappyAL
Ferrari
Gilles27
BT7
Burtoner
3
Nigel Smith
Honda
Ronnie Peterson
Lotus
Blito
Ferrari
Mark65
1
Artiglietti
Cooper
BadBlood
Honda
RogUK
Cooper
Norbert
Ferrari
Maddog
Cooper

RESERVE
DRIVER  
 CHASSIS  
Karliss
Honda
Adamg67
BT11

Reserve drivers should not join the server until there are only 30 minutes of qualifying left so as to give the FULL TIME drivers chance to join, and drivers are not to go out on track until there are 30 minutes of qualifying left as this helps all drivers join the server successfully.

Please restrict chat to pit messages if necessary, and this includes the end of the race, until all running drivers have completed the necessary laps.

The Novice races are run under Int Long rules and all incidents will be moderated.

Race List = IGOR
Server = UKGPL5
IP address = ping myjamesonline.net (90.195.125.43)
Race date = 07-12-2010
Time = 21:00 UK time
Track = Spa
Variant = 65F1
Damage Model = Int
Qualifying time = 35 minutes
Race length = 10 laps
Password: see above

65 Patch: The 2.02 Release of the 65mod can and should be used.
http://bit.ly/d8dECl

Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page


IP Address is confirmed as 90.195.125.43
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« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2010, 10:25:54 PM +0000 »

Mike,
Assuming no quick fix on IGOR & we will enter direct through the IP address - can you confirm the bandwidth settings on UKGPL5. I've found I have to set my core.ini exactly, otherwise I get a bandwidth mismatch.

... Bill
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« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2010, 11:37:23 PM +0000 »

I will add to the top post tomorrow the IP Address, just in case it changes, and bandwidth settings too.
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« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2010, 03:56:54 AM +0000 »

Might be a bit late for some, but here's a Spa track guide along with an onboard lap, replay and setup:

http://racingleague.co.cc/hikiwaza/track-guides/one-lap-of-spa-francorchamps67-in-honda-ra272/
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« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2010, 01:48:07 PM +0000 »

Might be a bit late for some, but here's a Spa track guide along with an onboard lap, replay and setup:

Nice.

I noticed that you use the pit lane, and realised that I have been doing as well in practice. Presumably for tonight we'll need to avoid the pit lane in both qually and the race (in case someone takes a stop n go)?
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« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2010, 05:55:46 PM +0000 »

Might be a bit late for some, but here's a Spa track guide along with an onboard lap, replay and setup:

Nice.

I noticed that you use the pit lane, and realised that I have been doing as well in practice. Presumably for tonight we'll need to avoid the pit lane in both qually and the race (in case someone takes a stop n go)?


There's still more than enough room on the right, even when you take that line. You'll see during Practice if there are cars exiting the pits while you pass through there.
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« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2010, 07:49:05 PM +0000 »

Got problems at work, and still here. I very much doubt I'll be at the race. Hope for the best, but I can't see the problems being sorted out before 9. Shame cause I love Spa, and was looking forward to the race.

Good luck to everyone who's racing.
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« Reply #7 on: December 07, 2010, 08:13:29 PM +0000 »

its 20.10hrs race night- re Billy's comment. Computers ain't my strongpoint. So in simple language if Igors off what do we type & where do we type it to get onto the Spa race.

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« Reply #8 on: December 07, 2010, 08:27:27 PM +0000 »

I assume the IP address to go with the password above will be provided here or in the ukgpl chatroom.
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« Reply #9 on: December 07, 2010, 08:35:47 PM +0000 »

20:35  and yes the IP is now in the info above.
To join via direct IP.. launch GPL 65, choose multiplayer and type in the IP and password when prompted.

Simples.


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« Reply #10 on: December 07, 2010, 08:49:39 PM +0000 »

20:35  and yes the IP is now in the info above.
To join via direct IP.. launch GPL 65, choose multiplayer and type in the IP and password when prompted.

Simples.


Cheesy


not forgetting to first select your 65 car type and Spa track in GEM  Smiley
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« Reply #11 on: December 07, 2010, 09:35:57 PM +0000 »

Don't know about you guys but I could not connect - got as far as opening the channel then nothing. I'll have to go & talk to the Mrs.
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« Reply #12 on: December 07, 2010, 09:49:32 PM +0000 »

I connected OK, but got kicked off just as we were about to start. Guess it wasn't ment to be for me. I joined with about 15 minutes left, had PC problems which needed a reboot, and then getting booted out at the start of the race.

A bit gutted as I tried really hard to be here, but these things happen.
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« Reply #13 on: December 07, 2010, 10:26:59 PM +0000 »

Really sorry to whoever I hit, I think I shouldn't have started the race as I had problems again with weird "stuttering". It wasn't too bad in qually but was in the race, and I probably should have retired before I hit someone. It came and went, but in the end it was bound to happen when I was close to someone, so it's my responsibility either way. I'll have to get it sorted before I race online again, I'm not sure what to do about it though.

Sorry again - it's the online equivalent of racing with bits falling of the car really.
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« Reply #14 on: December 08, 2010, 09:49:04 AM +0000 »

The race according to Blito.

Well, a race of two halves for me and a race that showed a lack of preparation.
I have a distinct dislike for long circuits, lacking the patience to do the required number of laps to perfect my driving on them. And so i came to Spa having done enough laps to make a decent setup but not enough to really know where its limits were.
The start was amazingly clean. No problems at Eau Rouge for anyone that i could see and we all settled down into a nice rhythm. I followed Miner Mike for a couple of laps watching where he was quicker and where he was slower than I and realised my strong point was the uphill run from Carriere to Blanchimont and so on lap 3 made a move there, using the superior power of my Ferrari to outdrag his cooper. Then i had to defend hard for several laps as Mike used my slipstream to keep the pressure on. Those laps were some of the best racing i have ever taken part in. Pity that i over did it on the entry to Les Combes on lap 6 and then again at Blanchimont on lap 8.. and La Source on lap 9! 
Still, 6th place was a better result than i had expected so i am a very happy racer Smiley

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