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January 16, 2011, 09:24:12 PM +0000 - Anderstorp (GP) - UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Spec Challenge
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
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Hristo Itchov
 HikiWazaRacing
Brabham BT26a (DFV) F1 1969 1 1:26.724
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1 17:43.141
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12 1:27.078
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Goodyear  
EvilClive
 HikiWazaRacing
Lotus 49b (DFV) F1 1969 3 +2.305
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2 +15.255
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12 1:28.605
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Firestone  
FullMetalGasket
 Black Night Racing
Lotus 49b (DFV) F1 1969 2 +2.242
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3 +19.415
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12 1:28.324
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Firestone  
Artiglietti
 
Lotus 49b (DFV) F1 1969 4 +3.983
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4 +38.103
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12 1:30.056
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Firestone  
b_1_rd
 Clark-Hill Racing
Brabham BT26a (DFV) F1 1969 7 +5.439
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5 +1:42.706
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12 1:32.101
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Goodyear  
Ronniepeterson
 
Lotus 49b (DFV) F1 1969 5 +4.983
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6 +1L
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11 1:32.432
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Firestone  
Billy Nobrakes
 Black Night Racing
Lotus 49b (DFV) F1 1969 9 +9.372
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7 +23.216
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11 1:35.601
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Firestone  
francesco
 
Lotus 49b (DFV) F1 1969 8 +7.435
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8 +34.242
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11 1:33.482
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Firestone  
Ross Neilson
 Clark-Hill Racing
Brabham BT26a (DFV) F1 1969 6 +5.315
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9 +2L
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10 1:31.173
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Goodyear  
Nigel Smith
 HikiWazaRacing
Brabham BT26a (DFV) F1 1969 10 +9.911
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10 +5L
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7 1:35.245
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Goodyear  
2 UKGPL_T7
 
Lotus 49b (DFV) F1 1969 11 DNS ---
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F1 1969
1:26.724
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Hristo Itchov
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Brabham BT26a (DFV)January 16, 2011, 09:24:12 PM +0000
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January 16, 2011, 10:08:02 PM +0000 - Anderstorp (GP) - UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Spec Challenge
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Hristo Itchov
 HikiWazaRacing
Lotus 49b (DFV) F1 1969 1 1:27.457
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1 17:33.956
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12 1:26.897
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Firestone  
FullMetalGasket
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT26a (DFV) F1 1969 2 +0.643
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2 +14.850
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12 1:28.095
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Goodyear  
EvilClive
 HikiWazaRacing
Brabham BT26a (DFV) F1 1969 3 +1.651
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3 +44.860
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12 1:28.789
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Goodyear  
Ross Neilson
 Clark-Hill Racing
Lotus 49b (DFV) F1 1969 5 +3.289
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4 +1:10.500
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12 1:30.447
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Firestone  
Ronniepeterson
 
Brabham BT26a (DFV) F1 1969 7 +4.497
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5 +1:12.110
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12 1:31.484
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Goodyear  
b_1_rd
 Clark-Hill Racing
Lotus 49b (DFV) F1 1969 6 +4.177
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6 +1:23.078
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12 1:30.941
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Firestone  
Artiglietti
 
Brabham BT26a (DFV) F1 1969 4 +2.652
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7 +1L
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11 1:30.905
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Goodyear  
francesco
 
Brabham BT26a (DFV) F1 1969 9 +7.392
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8 +2.679
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11 1:33.021
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Goodyear  
Billy Nobrakes
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT26a (DFV) F1 1969 8 +7.359
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9 +29.681
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11 1:34.698
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Goodyear  
Nigel Smith
 HikiWazaRacing
Lotus 49b (DFV) F1 1969 10 +12.342
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10 +38.386
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11 1:34.105
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Firestone  
2 UKGPL_T7
 
Lotus 49b (DFV) F1 1969 11 DNS ---
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Firestone  

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F1 1969
1:26.897
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Hristo Itchov
Race
Lotus 49b (DFV)January 16, 2011, 10:08:02 PM +0000
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« on: January 10, 2011, 09:20:13 PM +0000 »

Round 6 of the Spec Challenge heads north to Sweden with a chance to drive 69 Mod cars at Anderstorp. I ran a discussion thread over the winter break asking for views on the future of Spec Races. Whilst attendance has dropped off a bit there are still a hard core of regulars so we will continue to the end of the Season with the exiting format. One suggestion was to reduce the length of the whole event & we can do this by reducing the qualifying session to 12 minutes for Race 1 & 10 minutes for Race 2 & finish up 25 minutes earlier. So, no hanging about just hit the track.

The championship table at the halfway point shows FMG leading from Hristo, Evil Clive & King Hiro.  Full details here Spec Race Challenge

Spec races consist of two back to back Intermediate Short races on the same track. Each driver has to drive one car in each race - start whichever you like. Anyone daft enough to drive the same car will be disqualified from race two. This weeks choice of chariot is the Lotus 49 and the Brabham BT26.  
Spec Races is the only championship with no handicapping – it’s down to individual driver skill & the ability to cope with different cars.
 
Races will be run on one grid with one championship table for Season 20.
 
The Spec Series will be run according to normal UKGPL rules, although only reported incidents will be moderated. (Please file reports by the Friday after race night). Unlimited resets (Shift R) are allowed and you must take a Stop & Go penalty unless another driver or warp was clearly responsible for your misfortune. Stop & Go means coming to a complete halt in (or around) your pit box - please be careful on the rejoin not to impede other cars.  The intention is to be a little less serious than the other championships - have as much fun as you can within the rules.
 
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Race date = 16-01-2011
Time = 21:00 UK time (21:00 GMT)
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Race length = Intermediate Short
Variant = 1969
Chassis = Brabham BT26 & Lotus 49b
Damage Model = Intermediate
Qualifying time = 12 minutes Race 1 / 10 minutes Race 2

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« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2011, 09:23:55 PM +0000 »

Not quite 1969, but a nice onboard lap...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHjiVzwXCAE

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« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2011, 12:02:03 AM +0000 »

Poor old Ronnie , makes me very sad watching that , so many memories of a truly great racer   :'(
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« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2011, 12:43:39 AM +0000 »

I remember entering a '69 race at Anderstorp 2 seasons or so ago with GBGPL, and it was totally brutal to drive around with these cars. T2, that bowl-shaped significantly cambered turn felt like reaching up to huge G-forces, providing so much grip that it was hard to judge the limit. It was the Brabham which I drove then, so at least I have a setup for one of the cars. Just have to avoid blowing up the engine as it happened back then...
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« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2011, 05:02:42 AM +0000 »

Onboard lap, track guide, replay and setup (in the Brabham BT26):

http://racingleague.co.cc/hikiwaza/track-guides/lap-around-anderstorp-in-brabham-bt26-gpl-1969-mod/
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« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2011, 11:45:05 AM +0000 »

Wont be there tonight , I dont do 69's  Tongue


Great lap H , seem to remember when they first did a F1 race there , the track surface broke up very badly due to the enormous lateral grip from those huge  "stickies" of the day  Shocked
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« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2011, 11:49:29 AM +0000 »


Thanks again for sharing your thoughts Hristo. I've had a few laps in the cars this morning and can get into the 31s so I dare say I will toiling around at the back, but it's my first time with this mod so will be useful experience if nothing else.

It's amazing how much speed you can carry into these banked corners so I hope to get a bit quicker before the race tonight.
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« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2011, 12:25:31 PM +0000 »

Great educational lap H  Grin  If only we could all do 1:27's  Undecided

This track does seem to suit the 69's and is a favourite amongst those who regularly race them. Overtaking opportunities are limited, but given the tremendous grip and brakes that these cars had in real life I guess that is fairly accurate.

Tyre temps for the left tyres, especially the rear left, can be a problem if you push too hard for too long and are sliding that rear rubber. It is so easy to throw these cars at a corner and rely on the downforce to get you out of trouble, but eventually the tyres pay the price :'(.  If GPL modelled tyre wear I reckon we would all be into the pits for a new set of rears before the race was over.

You mention how easy it is to lose your way on that wide runway of a straight, a problem I had in my first few races here.

 The trick I use, is to look for the pair of white billboards which are just to the left of the next corner. Aim for those and you will find you stay on the circuit and won't run off down the wrong part of the main runway  Wink
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« Reply #8 on: January 16, 2011, 12:52:14 PM +0000 »

Yeah, the left rear tire can get up to insane temperatures if you go sideways too often, but it's tricky to keep the car neat and tidy all the time, at least with my setup. I like it a bit loose though, that way I can push more when necessary, even if it's at the expense of tire temps.
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« Reply #9 on: January 17, 2011, 09:18:20 AM +0000 »

Enjoyed my first go with the 69 mod and will hopefully give it another try at Rouen in four weeks. Also found the track good fun to drive so overall glad I chose to race as it has been a while since I did the Spec series.

Race one was quiet for me as I settled into 5th place after the first few laps. Steve filled my mirrors early on but then dropped back leaving me a simple run to the flag - sadly I had a screen freeze with two laps left.

Race two was much busier as AA let me into 4th early on and then Clive started boiling his tyres allowing me to close on him in 3rd. I tapped Clive at the end of the short straight which sent us both into a quick spin. Clive then ran wide and let me into 3rd and it seemed like I had a reasonable gap back to him.

However he soon caught up and filled my mirrors for a few laps (showing me how you should follow closely! cheers Evil) until I tried to make room for him to pass and went off myself. Ended up fourth though which wasn't a bad result.
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« Reply #10 on: January 17, 2011, 11:57:16 AM +0000 »

Much better around here with the 69s than it was around east london. I am not sure if it is the nature of the track, or if that rudimentary trail braking I managed to implement into my driving since then is bearing some fruits. Anyway, it has revived a bit my enthusiasm for the specs, which I also found better (if a bit hectic) in this new shorter format. Thanks to Hristo for the setups and to Clive and Billy for the tips, which helped quite a bit. Having a setup ready for these little known mods is key, I think.

As for my races, after a rather solitary stroll to 4th for the first one, I had a much more eventful second race trying to catch Ross ahead of me, who was quicker than expected in the Lotus. I made a lot of mistakes though, which sent me down in 7th at the end. Was getting ready for a feisty last lap in Steve's company, but my engine let go. Second time in the event. How long did they last with that set up in your previous race H?

Will try to attend the last three races of the season, since I know at least the tracks. Not sure about Reims though, depends whats my mood after Kylami with the other novs..
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« Reply #11 on: January 17, 2011, 12:05:57 PM +0000 »

I don't remember, AA, but I wouldn't have lasted in these races either (at least in the Brabham) if I didn't short-shift for the majority of the race, and especially in the opening laps. It meant losing some speed but it was a necessary sacrifice I think. If you read my track guide on the waza blog you'd have seen I warned about engine blowing up issues.  Grin

Race 1 was very close during its first half as I had Evil following very close and camouflaged in his Lotus, but eventually I managed to get away and cut off the slipstream he was enjoying. Race 2 it was Tim who was behind me, but the Lotus is really such a well balanced car that it invites you to push right from the start, so that's what I did and managed to escape him early on.
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« Reply #12 on: January 17, 2011, 12:52:01 PM +0000 »

That was quite good fun with a few laps of close racing.

Race 1 I managed to get behind Ross but then misjudged the cones at the end of the runway section and clipped one which ended what was shaping up to be a nice tussle.  I couldn't remember if I was supposed to do a stop/go after the reset but decided I would, then I couldn't remember where the pit entry was, saw what I thought was the pit lane (which it was) and took to it, then it looked like the barrier went across the road so chose last minute to abort it and ran into the barrier anyway! STUPID!! Had to reset again, so skipped the stops go's altogether.  Not sure how that will effect things, but fully accept a DQ if awarded.

Race 2 I went off running wide on L1, which was again a daft error but turned out to be fun making my way back through a few of the pack culminating in a last lap chase with AA, we both went wide at the runway but sadly AAs engine went so it ended up as a cruise to the finish.

So generally a session of silly errors for me!

Amazed at the fastest lap time; even in 1973 the fastest lap was 1:26.1 with slicks and + 4 years of technology!  I've no idea how you do it, but WD H.
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« Reply #13 on: January 17, 2011, 05:18:58 PM +0000 »

Amazed at the fastest lap time; even in 1973 the fastest lap was 1:26.1 with slicks and + 4 years of technology!  I've no idea how you do it, but WD H.

It's not like the mod is 100% realistic (or the track), it has too much grip at greater slip angles IMO, the cars handle like they're 4WD. They wouldn't use such aggressive setups in reality either.
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« Reply #14 on: January 17, 2011, 05:50:07 PM +0000 »

Amazed at the fastest lap time; even in 1973 the fastest lap was 1:26.1 with slicks and + 4 years of technology!  I've no idea how you do it, but WD H.

It's not like the mod is 100% realistic (or the track), it has too much grip at greater slip angles IMO, the cars handle like they're 4WD. They wouldn't use such aggressive setups in reality either.

Fair point, but even so, a clear second ahead of everyone else in both races!  Good show.
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