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  • S20A Kyalami: January 25, 2011
January 25, 2011, 09:45:42 PM +0000 - Kyalami (1961-67) - UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Amateurs Trophy (65)
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
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kinghiro
 Clark-Hill Racing
BRM P261 (1965) F1 1965 2 +0.152
108.921mph
1 49:53.590
107.065mph
35 1:24.645
108.186mph
Dunlop  
FullMetalGasket
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT7 (Climax) F1 1965 5 +0.765
108.132mph
2 +3.063
106.956mph
35 1:24.612
108.228mph
Dunlop  
G Jonsson
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 3 +0.496
108.477mph
3 +3.335
106.946mph
35 1:23.982
109.040mph
Goodyear  
fpolicardi
 Team7
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 4 +0.715
108.196mph
4 +17.840
106.431mph
35 1:25.131
107.568mph
Goodyear  
EvilClive
 HikiWazaRacing
Cooper T77 (Climax) F1 1965 8 +0.882
107.983mph
5 +28.281
106.063mph
35 1:24.970
107.772mph
Dunlop  
Clutch4
 Mountside Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 6 +0.803
108.084mph
6 +33.555
105.878mph
35 1:24.911
107.847mph
Goodyear  
Podkrecony_Ziutek
 Clark-Hill Racing
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 9 +0.946
107.902mph
7 +34.202
105.856mph
35 1:24.745
108.058mph
Dunlop  
Al Heller
 Clark-Hill Racing
BRM P261 (1965) F1 1965 10 +1.004
107.828mph
8 +42.408
105.570mph
35 1:25.149
107.546mph
Dunlop  
bernie
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 13 +2.112
106.439mph
9 +1L
103.742mph
34 1:25.940
106.556mph
Dunlop  
Phil Thornton
 Antipasti Racing
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 12 +2.023
106.550mph
10 +2L
100.157mph
33 1:27.126
105.105mph
Dunlop  
Turkey Machine
 HikiWazaRacing
Cooper T77 (Climax) F1 1965 7 +0.807
108.079mph
11 +27L
104.692mph
8 1:25.517
107.083mph
Disco
Dunlop  
Baab
 
BRM P261 (1965) F1 1965 11 +1.059
107.758mph
12 +0.184
104.664mph
8 1:25.384
107.250mph
Disco
Dunlop  
kinghiro
 Clark-Hill Racing
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 13 DNS ---
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Dunlop  
Hristo Itchov
 HikiWazaRacing
Brabham BT7 (Climax) F1 1965 1 1:23.922
109.118mph
14 ---
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Dunlop  
2 UKGPL_T7
 
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 14 15 ---
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Dunlop  

Moderator's Report

Kyalami brought with it the first non-Brabham victory of Season 20 and also one of the most epic races in the history of the Ams!
After Tom's bribe to Hristo's ISP resulted in internet failure mid qualifying, the start was looking VERY interesting - with the first 10 drivers seperated by only a second, most of whom with laps that were within 2 tenths of one another.
The start saw a massive re-shuffle as the drivers with long 1st's plumeted down the order while the remainder rapidly jumped to the advantage.
35 laps of close battles then occured across the entire field, with positions changing nearly lap by lap and no fewer than 3 leaders, who while only officially changing places 3 times actually swapped spots 16 times in total!

Come the close of play and Tom managed a very well fought and well deserved maiden win in the Ams.
With Tim M a few seconds behind and and a Flying Goran in third.

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« on: January 23, 2011, 01:14:47 PM +0000 »

From Brno with love?
Well, moving on from the puns we head to sunny South Africa and that old favorite - Kyalami.
Can someone please end the BT7 stranglehold on race wins here!  Grin

Race List = IGOR
Server = UKGPL_T7_2
IP address = 62.149.202.168
Race date = 25-01-2011
Time = 21:00 UK time
Track = Kyalami - Papy original

Variant = 65F1
Damage Model = PRO
Qualifying time = 35 minutes. Don't start until 30 mins left on clock to allow everyone to join.
Race length = 50 minutes (laps 35)
Password: see above

65 Patch: The 2.02 Release of the 65mod can be used.

Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page
The track can be downloaded from : Papy original
Add-on’s available at : http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=1925

Please be in IGOR UKGPL chatroom by 8:50 pm UK Time

Reserve drivers should not join the server(s) until there are only 30 minutes of qualifying left. Please restrict chat to pit messages. Moderating will be by reported incidents only, however the moderators reserve the right to review any incident with a particular emphasis on lap one. The aim is to review the race the following weekend so incident reports should be submitted within five days of the race (ie the following Friday). We're hopeful most incidents can be resolved amicably and recommend a days deep breath with a replay review before posting. A sorry in the forum won't be taken as an automatic admission of guilt by the moderators.
The race will be run on PRO Damage.

NOTE: Please ensure you join the correct server, due to the way we import if you start the race on the wrong server your result will not count.

Chassis assignments can be found HERE

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Whichever chassis a driver begins race 1 with is the chassis he must use for the remainder of the season unless a change has been agreed with the moderator.


Ensure you have the pit wall in place.  The standard papy track has a pit wall but there are patches available that remove it.  The absence of a pit wall will not stop you joining the race but anybody seen miraculously driving through the pit wall on the server replay will be disqualified.
Instructions for restoring the pit wall are;
If you have installed the GFX update that removes the pitwall here is how to get it back for the race .
1. Rename or remove kyalami.trk and kyalami.3do files from your kyalami folder.
That will give you back a wall you can crash your car into. If you want the old papy Armco GFX back do this.
2. Rename or remove Armco_s.mip.

About the circuit:

Kyalami (My home in Zulu) is a motor racing circuit located in Midrand, Gauteng, South Africa. The circuit has been used for Grand Prix and Formula One races and has hosted the South African Grand Prix many times. In recent years, the area surrounding the circuit has developed into a residential and commercial suburb of Johannesburg.  The original, sweeping circuit was in use from 1967 until political sanctions eliminated the Grand Prix after the 1985 race. When the circuit was rebuilt in the early 1990s as part of a commercial development, the pit straight, Crowthorne bend, Barbeque and Jukskei sweep corners were either eliminated or heavily modified, with the result that the circuit became a narrow, twisty ribbon rather than one of the fastest circuits on the calendar. Formula One abandoned the rebuilt circuit in 1993 after just two races (and a bankruptcy on the part of the promoter).

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« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2011, 02:49:03 PM +0000 »

Can someone please end the BT7 stranglehold on race wins here!  Grin

You can begin with yourself and then we'll see.  angel
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« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2011, 03:40:54 PM +0000 »

I'm not going to simply hand a win to someone else  Grin
But I would like to see a BT11/BRM/Lotus/Fez/Allegro take a win instead at last!
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« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2011, 04:11:33 PM +0000 »

I'm not going to simply hand a win to someone else  Grin
But I would like to see a BT11/BRM/Lotus/Fez/Allegro take a win instead at last!

I would not like that. The only exception is Cooper, for obvious reasons.  Wink
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« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2011, 04:32:05 PM +0000 »

Well ok, I can sacrifice myself and win this damn race Wink
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« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2011, 05:10:20 AM +0000 »

A super detailed guide for Kyalami!

http://racingleague.co.cc/hikiwaza/track-guides/conquering-kyalami-in-1965-brabham-bt7/
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« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2011, 09:53:20 AM +0000 »

Another great track guide Hristo , I'm sure there's something to learn in there for all of us mere mortals  Wink


 

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« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2011, 01:26:11 PM +0000 »

Tim, as much as I support your wish for a non-BT7-win here I have very small hops in the matter.

I took a quick spin in "H`s" Bt7 (Thanks for the guide and setup, H) and I was much less than a sec slower than in my own Bt11. The speed over the S/F line was only like 2mph slower so the only possible outcome with something else on the top of the table here is that both you and H DNF. 

That said of cause we have the BRM mafia, some Lotus, Bt11 and Coopers so of cause there are possibility's but unfortunate my money still is on a Bt7 win.

Now please prove me wrong!!!

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« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2011, 02:01:19 PM +0000 »

Tim, as much as I support your wish for a non-BT7-win here I have very small hops in the matter.

I took a quick spin in "H`s" Bt7 (Thanks for the guide and setup, H) and I was much less than a sec slower than in my own Bt11. The speed over the S/F line was only like 2mph slower so the only possible outcome with something else on the top of the table here is that both you and H DNF. 

That said of cause we have the BRM mafia, some Lotus, Bt11 and Coopers so of cause there are possibility's but unfortunate my money still is on a Bt7 win.

Now please prove me wrong!!!

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« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2011, 02:20:52 PM +0000 »


That's a nice base setup for here  Grin
Using your setup (Modded steering ratio only) was giving me mid 25's. I've played with the gearing, diff, and made minor camber tweeks and am now running down to about 24.5 on qually fuel.
Also moved the brakes forward 1% as 50/50's more than a tad dodgy for us right foot brakers!  Tongue

Of to check my modifications on race fuel loads now  Smiley
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« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2011, 02:24:46 PM +0000 »

I was using 51% initially and might go back to it for the race, as relying on too much throttle under braking is a recipe for disaster, engine-wise.
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« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2011, 07:27:00 PM +0000 »

Gotta see if my BREASTS setup from here still works alright. Seem to remember it had 1:25s capable...
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« Reply #12 on: January 25, 2011, 07:52:19 PM +0000 »

Gotta see if my BREASTS setup from here still works alright. Seem to remember it had 1:25s capable...

The Brabham and Cooper handle basically the same, with some small differences, so you can try renaming my setup to a cooper file extension and give it a go, if you want.
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« Reply #13 on: January 25, 2011, 08:37:39 PM +0000 »

Brilliant guide H.  Now I know the theory I just need to put it into practice.  I can get near my outright PB (1:26.02 - Ferrari) with the Lotus (1:26.38 is fastest to date) but the 1:23s are out of sight.  Having looked at your replay I think it is probably your ability to get the power down very early that is the key.  Something for me to work on in the race.

Keep the guides coming if you want some of us to raise our game and improve!  You never know, eventually you might get a chance to drive something other than a BT7 Wink
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« Reply #14 on: January 25, 2011, 08:52:51 PM +0000 »

Thanks, Phil, I'll do guides as often as I can, it depends on my spare time really. There's a bit of a problem with the Novices/Amateurs and Works/Privateers running different tracks, because it means I have to drive tracks I wouldn't be racing at (at least at that time), but I'm willing to do that as well when possible.

I don't know if you've tried the BT7 (and some of my setups), but it's not so difficult to put the power down early in it. As long as you let the car turn around on entry and drift so it points inward towards the apex, you can step on the throttle very early and pretty much floor it completely, especially with the right gearing. I can imagine (and judging from limited experience) it's a bit more tricky in the top cars, but at the same time it gives you more room to control the rearend. With the BT7, there's very little power to play with.
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