GT fun series Monza Race 18th Feb

[EvilClive]

The next race for the GT's will be at the original Papyrus Monza circuit. With a few more laps to complete, but a shorter lap time the race length should be about the same as previous.

(This race at Monza will be run with the single shift-R rule as all the previous races, but next Friday 27th Feb an extra race will be run as PRO rules with no Shift-R and with a rolling start. Details will be published soon)



We have the usual permanent teams and the Black and White temporary places.

SO, ANYONE WANTING TO TAKE UP ANY OF THE PLACES IN THE BLACK AND WHITE TEAMS FOR THE ROUEN RACE SHOULD POST HERE .

PLACES WILL BE ALLOCATED,  AS BEFORE , IN ORDER OF POSTING ON THIS THREAD.



The next race in the short GT series is at Monza ( Papyrus original circuit)

date:-     18th Feb 2011

time:-     9:00 p.m.  UK local time

where:-   UKGPL chatroom in IGOR ( password for chat "savage")

Race Length:-  35 laps

Server password:-     enzo


Qualification will be 20minutes starting at 9:00 p.m. Please do not leave the pits until 20 minutes is left on countdown timer. This is to allow all competitors to join the server.

The current permanent teams are.

Blue Team         Blue Team cars
Nicky Ickx             Ferrari
Paul Badblood        Ferrari
Lupo Minaro          Ferrari

Red Team              Red Team cars
Pod Zuitek                Chapp 2F
Ronnie Peterson         Porsche
Blito                         Lola

Green Team       Green Team cars
Phil Thornton            Lola
Evilclive                   Ford MK1
Francesco                Ferrari

Orange Team        Orange Team cars
Goran Jonsson           Lola
Hristo Itchov            Chapp 2F
Happy Al                  Mirage

Drivers are permitted to switch between the 3 available team cars race by race.

There are 2 further teams available for "part time" drivers although these could be converted to a Permanent Team, if 3 drivers can commit to attending all races.
To guarantee yourself a drive in the White or Black Teams you will need to post your intention to drive below before midnight on Thursday and places will be allocated in the order in which the cars are listed.


      White Team cars available for hire
1st applicant      Ford Mk1       Fulvio        
2nd applicant      Ferrari          Martin Hunt                
3rd applicant      Chapp 2D       Axel ( Cookie)                  

      Black Team cars available for hire
4th applicant      Mirage           Steve Bird                
5th applicant      Chapp 2F        Juha            
6th applicant      Porsche         Tim Vos  

There is space for a single Privateer wildcard entrant if all other places are filled in a..........Chapp 2D..............

Rules:-
To score points you must complete the race. No finish= NoPoints
Each driver is permitted a SINGLE  "SHIFT-R" per race regardless of fault, which must be followed by a Stop'nGo in the Pitlane within 2 laps, or the driver will be DQ'd.

[maddog]

I'd like to join the white team, for Ferrari.

[Cookie]

I'd like to join the white team, for Chap D

Greetz Axel

[b_1_rd]

As I'd be slowly skinned with a rusty spoon by the team manger if I were to take the Fez may I have the Black Team Mirage? Cheers.

DUHH! Just noticed Martin said the Fez - I'll stick with the Mirage though, if thats ok.

[jhalli]

black team and chapp2f  thanks.

Juha

[fpolicardi]

White and Ford for me.
Thx

[vosblod]

I can finally do a Friday. Just noticed there is a Porsche left in the Black Team so I'll nab that.

[fpolicardi]

Clive and Goran,
T7 server is ready set for 35 laps Int Long and listening on Igor on Console session.
Ciao

[EvilClive]

I can finally do a Friday. Just noticed there is a Porsche left in the Black Team so I'll nab that.

There is also a spare Chapp 2d as the lone privateer available

[Podkrecony_Ziutek]

Looks like Chaparral 2F is available too  

My wheel decided to made me a birthday present and broke down I will go to a friend to test it on his PC, who knows maybe that something with my PC.

If one of my teammates wants to race in 2F, than Lola or Porsche will be available.

The worst thing is, that if it's broken I probably wont be able to race till next season

[Ronniepeterson]

Tough break Pod, I hope you can make it. I will stick with the Porsche.

[jhalli]

short race for me this time, chaps seems quick enough to get top 3 times in qually, but in start i lost engine and someone crash my car, shift-r and forgot to make my car to the pit for stop'n go . Finally after 3 laps i realised i was disqualified and stop my race to the pits.

better luck next time with rolling start

Juha

[vosblod]

Incredibly, mindnumbingly tediously boring just about sums up my race. At one stange I found myself looking at the wall wishing the paint was wet so I could watch that dry instead of my screen.

I hadn't realised the speed differential on a track like this. To start with I thought the 7 second qually gap to the front must have been me being Captain Slow but I know this track pretty well and am usually competitive. A glance at Ronnie, the only other Porsche there, reassured my as I was only slightly off his time.
Anyway early shenanigans in front put me up to 10th and I was determined to give it a go. But as the early spinners recovered they started cutting through me like butter then zooming off into the distance. The only highlight in the first third was I was near Martin, but even that was not racing as he just pulled away when his canter was right.

After that 25 odd lonely laps awaited, the only highlight to look forward to being H and Co zooming up behind at some, or many, stages. Still it's a team thing so push on although sadly I saw Juha go out.
Anyway I tried to push the car to it's limits for something to do and too much over-revving saw me blow so game over.

I dread to think of the boredom that could be generated at Spa. That said it is fun to drive and I like the chassis but dead horses would have to drag me to a fast circuit unless it was a spec event.

Reading it back my post seems very negative and I don't mean it to be but it does highlight the huge difference on a fast circuit such as this. Probably in the hands of Hristo it might make it's mark but for the likes of me it makes for a goldfish lost amongst a sea of Piranhas.

[G Jonsson]

Track: Monza             Fri Feb 18 23:26:55 2011

PRACTICE TIMES

Pos No Driver                           Team     Nat      Time      Diff Laps
 1  24 Hristo ItchovGT                  Chap 2F  JPN 1m30.206s             11
 2   5 Juha HalliGT                     Chap 2F  FIN 1m31.538s   01.332s    7
 3   2 Axel Cookie                      Chap 2D  GER 1m31.942s   01.736s   11
 4  21 Göran JonssonGT                  Lola T70 SWE 1m32.017s   01.811s   12
 5  12  EvilGT                          Lola T70 GBR 1m32.288s   02.082s   11
 6  11 Nicky Ickx GT                    Ferrari  VEN 1m33.464s   03.258s    9
 7  37 Fabio GT Locarno                 Ferrari  ITA 1m33.544s   03.338s   12
 8  39 franGT Molteni                   Ferrari  ITA 1m33.885s   03.679s   11
 9  18 Martin_GT Hunt                   Ferrari  USA 1m34.233s   04.027s    8
10  16 Alastair BaldwinGT               Mirage   GBR 1m34.379s   04.173s   10
11  20 steve birdgt                     Mirage   GBR 1m34.402s   04.196s    9
12   1 Pedro Berg_vd                    Chap 2F  HOL 1m34.624s   04.418s    8
13   7 Fulvio Policardi-GT              GT40 MkI ITA 1m35.121s   04.915s    8
14  38 Phil ThorntonGT                  GT40 MkI GBR 1m35.217s   05.011s    9
15  15 Ronnie Peterson                  Porsche  ITA 1m36.007s   05.801s   13
16  14 Paul Whitfield GT                Ferrari  GBR 1m36.904s   06.698s    7
17  25 Vlad Vosblod                     Porsche  GBR 1m37.162s   06.956s    7
18  27 2 UKGPL_T7                       Lola T70 ITA   No time   No time    0

All times are official
Generated with GPL Replay Analyser


Track: Monza             Fri Feb 18 23:26:55 2011

RACE RESULTS (After 35 laps)

Pos No Driver                          Team     Nat Laps   Race Time       Diff    Problem
 1  24 Hristo ItchovGT                 Chap 2F  JPN   35  54m41.185s           
 2  12  EvilGT                         Lola T70 GBR   35  55m04.038s    22.853s
 3  21 Göran JonssonGT                 Lola T70 SWE   35  55m37.725s    56.540s
 4  11 Nicky Ickx GT                   Ferrari  VEN   35  55m41.268s  1m00.083s
 5   2 Axel Cookie                     Chap 2D  GER   35  55m52.730s  1m11.545s
 6   1 Pedro Berg_vd                   Chap 2F  HOL   35  55m55.434s  1m14.249s
 7  39 franGT Molteni                  Ferrari  ITA   34  54m50.066s   1 lap(s)
 8   7 Fulvio Policardi-GT             GT40 MkI ITA   34  54m52.930s   1 lap(s)
 9  20 steve birdgt                    Mirage   GBR   34  55m13.213s   1 lap(s)
10  38 Phil ThorntonGT                 GT40 MkI GBR   34  55m39.585s   1 lap(s)
11  16 Alastair BaldwinGT              Mirage   GBR   34  56m11.949s   1 lap(s)
12  18 Martin_GT Hunt                  Ferrari  USA   33  54m47.694s   2 lap(s)
13  15 Ronnie Peterson                 Porsche  ITA   33  55m03.109s   2 lap(s)
14  37 Fabio GT Locarno                Ferrari  ITA   20  32m28.135s  15 lap(s)
15  25 Vlad Vosblod                    Porsche  GBR   17  29m07.688s  18 lap(s)
16   5 Juha HalliGT                    Chap 2F  FIN    2   3m41.558s  33 lap(s)
17  14 Paul Whitfield GT               Ferrari  GBR    0 DidNotStart  35 lap(s)
18  27 2 UKGPL_T7                      Lola T70 ITA    0 DidNotStart  35 lap(s)


Race results are unofficial
(Replay might have been saved before end of race)

RACE FASTEST LAPS

Pos Driver                                 Time Lap
 1  Hristo ItchovGT                   1m31.269s  32
 2  Pedro Berg_vd                     1m32.074s   9
 3  Göran JonssonGT                   1m32.656s  32
 4  Nicky Ickx GT                     1m32.800s  35
 5  Axel Cookie                       1m32.905s  34
 6   EvilGT                           1m33.036s  24
 7  steve birdgt                      1m34.128s   9
 8  Martin_GT Hunt                    1m34.245s  28
 9  Fabio GT Locarno                  1m34.540s   9
10  franGT Molteni                    1m34.746s  14
11  Fulvio Policardi-GT               1m35.071s  16
12  Juha HalliGT                      1m36.010s   2
13  Phil ThorntonGT                   1m36.324s  32
14  Alastair BaldwinGT                1m36.450s  18
15  Ronnie Peterson                   1m37.445s  12
16  Vlad Vosblod                      1m38.814s  10
17  Paul Whitfield GT                   No time
18  2 UKGPL_T7                          No time


LEADERS

Driver                           Laps
 EvilGT                          1-2
Axel Cookie                      3-10
 EvilGT                          11
Axel Cookie                      12-13
Hristo ItchovGT                  14-35

Number of lead changes: 4
Number of leaders: 3


LAPS LED

Driver                           Laps led
Hristo ItchovGT                  22
Axel Cookie                      10
 EvilGT                          3


HIGHEST CLIMBER

Driver                           Start Finish  Change
Pedro Berg_vd                       12      6       6 
Fulvio Policardi-GT                 13      8       5 
Phil ThorntonGT                     14     10       4 
 EvilGT                              5      2       3 
Vlad Vosblod                        17     15       2 
Ronnie Peterson                     15     13       2 
steve birdgt                        11      9       2 
Nicky Ickx GT                        6      4       2 
franGT Molteni                       8      7       1 
Göran JonssonGT                      4      3       1 
2 UKGPL_T7                          18     18       0 
Hristo ItchovGT                      1      1       0 
Paul Whitfield GT                   16     17      -1 
Alastair BaldwinGT                  10     11      -1 
Axel Cookie                          3      5      -2 
Martin_GT Hunt                       9     12      -3 
Fabio GT Locarno                     7     14      -7 
Juha HalliGT                         2     16     -14 


ON TRACK LAPS

Driver                           Laps/Total    Percent
Nicky Ickx GT                       (34/35)      97.14
Axel Cookie                         (33/35)      94.29
 EvilGT                             (33/35)      94.29
Fulvio Policardi-GT                 (33/34)      97.06
Hristo ItchovGT                     (32/35)      91.43
franGT Molteni                      (32/34)      94.12
Göran JonssonGT                     (32/35)      91.43
Phil ThorntonGT                     (32/34)      94.12
steve birdgt                        (31/34)      91.18
Ronnie Peterson                     (31/33)      93.94
Alastair BaldwinGT                  (30/34)      88.24
Pedro Berg_vd                       (29/35)      82.86
Fabio GT Locarno                    (14/20)      70.00
Vlad Vosblod                        (14/17)      82.35
Martin_GT Hunt                       (5/33)      15.15
Juha HalliGT                          (1/2)      50.00


RACE LAPTIME CONSISTENCY
(first lap excluded)

Driver                    Avg Deviation  Std Deviation  Avg Laptime   Laps
Juha HalliGT                      0.000          0.000    1m36.010s      2
Phil ThorntonGT                   0.572          0.720    1m37.428s     34
Fulvio Policardi-GT               0.691          1.690    1m36.359s     34
 EvilGT                           0.785          1.656    1m34.201s     35
Nicky Ickx GT                     0.914          1.267    1m34.153s     35
Hristo ItchovGT                   0.993          1.357    1m33.005s     35
franGT Molteni                    1.296          2.642    1m36.378s     34
Alastair BaldwinGT                1.388          2.228    1m38.424s     34
Göran JonssonGT                   1.659          3.291    1m34.446s     35
Ronnie Peterson                   2.599          6.309    1m39.714s     33
Fabio GT Locarno                  2.903          5.567    1m37.061s     20
Pedro Berg_vd                     3.006          7.903    1m35.390s     35
Vlad Vosblod                      3.109          4.435    1m41.864s     17
Axel Cookie                       3.300          7.778    1m35.596s     35
steve birdgt                      3.544          5.427    1m37.138s     34
Martin_GT Hunt                    4.342          6.438    1m38.981s     33


All times are unofficial
(Replay might have been saved before end of race)

Generated with GPL Replay Analyser

[Hristo Itchov]

I think your frustration is totally justified, Tim. I wouldn't ever race the Porsche around tracks like Monza. What's the point really? To see how much suffering you can endure? Unless it's a spec race as you say (and it would be rather fun IMO), it's a torture! And no, I don't think you can be competitive in it at such track, regardless of how good of a driver you are. Physics are set in stone in GPL as opposed to reality where nothing is certain. 

In fact, for the same reasons for which I'm against mixing up 2Ls and 3Ls in 66 mod racing, I'm against using the full mixture of cars in this mod, at least for such sprint races. It may be a different matter in a 2 hours race or longer, assuming reliability also comes into play. So far I haven't had a single engine blow up in my 2F though - less gear changes, no need to rev to the max because of abundance of torque, relatively low oil temp... perfect recipe for lasting the race distance without a problem.

Race report going to wait, I'm off to try and record a Jarama lap and write a guide now.