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March 08, 2011, 09:45:20 PM +0000 - Adelaide (GP) - UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Novices Trophy (65)
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Artiglietti
 
Cooper T77 (Climax) F1 1965 1 1:33.306
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1 39:53.359
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25 1:34.272
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Dunlop  
Ross Neilson
 Clark-Hill Racing
Brabham BT7 (Climax) F1 1965 3 +1.295
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2 +4.129
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25 1:34.186
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Dunlop  
maddog
 Antipasti Racing
Cooper T77 (Climax) F1 1965 5 +2.210
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3 (+1) +36.211
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25 1:35.087
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Dunlop  
Ronniepeterson
 
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 6 +2.241
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4 +59.121
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25 1:35.725
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Dunlop  
karlisss
 
Honda RA272 F1 1965 2 +1.047
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5 +1:30.703
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25 1:35.651
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Goodyear  
blito
 Nessuna Speranza
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 9 +3.549
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6 (+4) +1:36.752
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25 1:37.098
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Dunlop  
Nigel Smith
 HikiWazaRacing
Honda RA272 F1 1965 11 +3.965
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7 +1L
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24 1:36.538
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Goodyear  
miner2049er
 Clark-Hill Racing
Cooper T77 (Climax) F1 1965 4 +2.142
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8 +18.914
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24 1:36.829
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Dunlop  
norbert
 Antipasti Racing
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 13 +4.799
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9 +39.790
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24 1:38.669
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Dunlop  
vosblod
 Clark-Hill Racing
Cooper T77 (Climax) F1 1965 12 +4.796
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10 +41.904
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24 1:38.487
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Dunlop  
NHance
 Mountside Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 8 +3.051
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11 +1:09.151
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24 1:36.658
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Goodyear  
Billy Nobrakes
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 14 +5.186
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12 (+2) +1:11.950
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24 1:37.726
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Goodyear  
Fragfritz
 
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 16 +11.353
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13 +17L
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8 1:46.847
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Dunlop  
BadBlood
 HikiWazaRacing
Honda RA272 F1 1965 15 +5.821
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14 +18L
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7 1:40.068
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Goodyear  
roguk
 Clark-Hill Racing
Cooper T77 (Climax) F1 1965 7 +2.740
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15 +1.055
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7 1:38.602
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Dunlop  
il_lupo_mannaro
 Black Night Racing
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 10 +3.906
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16 (+7) +24L
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1 1:47.312
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Dunlop  
5 UKGPL.65
 
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 17 DNS ---
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Dunlop  

Moderator's Report

The final race of the season was a bit of a mixed bag. Some midfield drivers had good races and some good drivers had midfield races.

The slippery surface caught a few out and a lack of practise for others was evident by the spin fest lower down the order.

I think most are ready for the rest that the season end brings, but don't forget the pickup races during the break as many will need to learn to drive new cars next season. ;-)


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Attilio uses the tarmac on the outside of the kerbs at the exit of Brewery Bend, sometimes having all four wheels over the kerb and using the extra road as track.

I previously said that this would not be moderated as it was possible that drivers could end up using that piece of road if they made a mistake through Brewery.
Therefore it will go unpunished as the same opportunity was open to all drivers.

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 0

Karliss continually cuts the chicane at T1 when the race post clearly (in bright red letters) asks people not to do it.
He does not always seem to gain an advantage and it is sometimes clearly due to a loss of control, but during his battle with Ronnie he seems to do it intentionally, though this backfires when he has to drive through the trees back to the circuit.
Most people cut the chicane at T1 to some degree, but all the incidents below are where Karliss has all 4 wheels off the track.
0h00m54s cuts 2nd part of T1
0h09m10s cuts both parts of T1
0h10m45s cuts 1st part of T1
0h12m25s cuts 2nd part of T1
0h14m00s cuts 2nd part of T1
0h15m44s cuts 2nd part of T1
0h17m20s cuts 2nd part of T1
0h18m58s cuts 2nd part of T1
0h20m35s cuts 2nd part of T1
0h25m25s cuts 2nd part of T1
oh27m00s cuts 2nd part of T1
0h28m35s cuts both parts of T1
0h30m20s cuts 1st part of T1
0h31m58s cuts 2nd part of T1
oh33m33s cuts 2nd part of T1
oh35m11s cuts 1st part of T1
0h36m46s cuts 2nd part of T1
0h38m33s cuts 2nd part of T1


Server replay time: 0h00m50s

Blito is a little enthusiastic heading into T1 and closes up on Rog before hitting him causing another incident behind for Billy and Norbert.


Server replay time: 0h00m50s

Billy leaves the line and approaching T1 can see a car in the air,
he moves left to avoid a possible contact but moves straight into Norbert spinning them both.
Norbert was visible on the run to T1


Server replay time: 0h02m50s

Nigel spins and rejoins the track on to the racing line.
Fabio avoids him but only just.
Nigel should have been prepared to wait for a bigger gap in the traffic

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 0h03m10s

Mike goes too wide at Stag and ends up spinning.
Norm takes the same route hoping not to miss out on the new racing line, but unfortunately he hits the spinning Mike.
Fabio sees Norm parked and the magnet in the front of his Ferrari instantly homes in on the metalwork of Norms car sending him skywards

All 3 have to wait for the entire field to pass before resetting
Mike resets at the same time as Fabio and is warped again so resets a second time.
All are deemed free resets.

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 0h04m00s

Fabio rear ends Fragfritz approaching the Brabham Hairpin.
Fragfritz is new to the division and is not as fast as Fabio, but Fabio is still accelerating when Fragfritz has started braking and seems to take no avoiding action.


Server replay time: 0h10m00s

Martin closes quite quickly on Fragfritz and runs into the back of him.

Fragfritz was not quite at racing speed but Martin should have avoided the collision.

This should have been a Simple Rear End Shunt and would have attracted a 1 place penalty, but I have mitigated the lost place as Fragfritz was so slow and Martin caught him very quickly, but in Fabio's similar incident, he had followed Fragfritz down the whole of the straight.


Server replay time: 0h12m45s

Paul runs wide into the last corner and Billy sees the opportunity to go for the gap.
He had no overlap at turn in but could see Paul running wide.
Paul recovers and accelerates again while turning back towards the racing line where Billy now is.
Both have asked for no penalty to be given.

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 0h22m35s

Billy predicts a run at the bar after the race, so heads to the beer tent to place his order and ask for it to be put on ice.

  • Racing incident

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« Reply #30 on: March 07, 2011, 10:17:57 PM +0000 »

How the hell anyone does 1:32 round here is beyond me! It rewards patience and that means being gentle with the throttle and getting a smooth line. Overtaking is going to be a nightmare - not that I usually do any - so a busy few nights for Mike maybe Wink
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« Reply #31 on: March 07, 2011, 10:54:48 PM +0000 »

thanks, for replies.
will do my best to put all element together in nervous , stress , race atmosphere.
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« Reply #32 on: March 07, 2011, 10:57:54 PM +0000 »

How the hell anyone does 1:32 round here is beyond me! It rewards patience and that means being gentle with the throttle and getting a smooth line. Overtaking is going to be a nightmare - not that I usually do any - so a busy few nights for Mike maybe Wink

It's just that you're still separating the phases of braking and accelerating from that of steering. Once you learn to transition between each gradually, you'll be able to carry more speed into a corner and accelerate earlier.
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« Reply #33 on: March 08, 2011, 12:34:15 AM +0000 »

I am aware of that - it is strange - sometimes I am happily taking a corner when I think 'ooh I need to steer here' so the input isnt as smooth and progressive as I would like to achieve. Presumably, it becomes automatic rather like when you first learn to drive you can't see how people do the gears and accelerate and check the mirrors and drink a cup of coffee! Now it is second nature and you don't even do it consciously.
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« Reply #34 on: March 08, 2011, 01:39:38 AM +0000 »

The thing is, you need to keep trying it until it clicks, even if it means spinning in 9 out of 10 attempts. The single time when you manage to keep the car in control is what counts. It's the moment when you go "AHHHHH, so that's how it's done!". From then on you'll always know what to look for in terms of feeling for the car and feedback from the car itself, such as relative positioning on the screen towards the direction of travel and engine/tire sound. You can do this without any worry of bad result or getting injured (as would real world dirvers) in offline practice.  Grin
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« Reply #35 on: March 08, 2011, 07:01:00 AM +0000 »

Personally, I dont worry too much about outright speed. Instead, I am more interested in getting good consistency with my pace. I don't do hotlaps and I dont use separate qualifying setups (which is why I`m often last on the grid). With race fuel I can lap in the 39`s/40`s with no problem but as always I wont be pushing too hard.
You know, a single shift/r  will cost you about 30 seconds on your race time. Better to go 1s/lap slower and not spin than push the car and make mistakes IMO Smiley.
The one thing that does worry me about Adelaide is the nature of the kerbs. They are a little harsh if you run too wide. Also, as Badblood said, there aren't many obvious overtaking places... Oh well I guess we'll see for sure in 14 hours time Smiley
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« Reply #36 on: March 08, 2011, 10:33:43 AM +0000 »

Well, I'm on the opinion consistency is much easier to learn and you can always work on it whenever you need. All it takes is just going slightly under your limit and trying to do that each lap, instead of pushing hard.

What improving your outright speed helps with, is that you'll have a bigger range/buffer to play with for achieving consistency while running higher up the order. E.g. if you improve your speed by half a second, you can afford to run half a second slower for sake of consistency, and you'll still be quicker than previous consistency pace.
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« Reply #37 on: March 08, 2011, 08:06:59 PM +0000 »

I only see the practice server...is something wrong?
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« Reply #38 on: March 08, 2011, 08:14:27 PM +0000 »

I only see the practice server...is something wrong?

You're 1 hour too early. Smiley
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« Reply #39 on: March 08, 2011, 08:18:36 PM +0000 »

Doh!!!!
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« Reply #40 on: March 08, 2011, 10:03:55 PM +0000 »

Great - having a good race - massively disappointed with qually but sub 1:40 which was OK ish but had hoped for low 1:38 - just couldn't find a rhythm. Good start took advantage of lots of spinners crashes etc and drove steadily. Running ninth after a spin of my own and not too happy with my smoothness but OK and defending well - great battle with Billy and....

...GPL crashes - first time ever for me Sad

What a TERRIBLE end to the season. Ups and downs but mostly downs and I know I am getting better BUT feeling totally hacked off right now Sad
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« Reply #41 on: March 08, 2011, 10:29:18 PM +0000 »

I pulled into the pits after I flipped myself and Shift R'd to get going again and the video freaked out. Was in the pit lane but was flashing all sorts of VGA colors at me. Tried a shift R to get back on the track, which the replay showed put me back out there, but my video showed me still stuck. Had to Esc and enter which meant I was done after 9 laps :-(.

Fun stuff, had my PB during qualifying and beat it during the race but the front runners were about 10 sec faster than little ole me.

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« Reply #42 on: March 08, 2011, 10:36:06 PM +0000 »

Actually Fritz, that wasnt a bad debut.. I was especially impressed with your awareness when I had to lap you. You knew exactly where to put yourself and made it clear you wanted me to pass on your right. Impressive stuff for a rookie. The pace will come, the glitches will be ironed out and next season you will have some great racing with the rest of us also-rans Smiley
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« Reply #43 on: March 08, 2011, 10:39:17 PM +0000 »

Thanks Jason, I got passed enough to know better, still got pranged from behind twice though. Sometimes it is harder than it looks to anticipate where you should be on the twisty parts to allow a pass.
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« Reply #44 on: March 08, 2011, 10:50:23 PM +0000 »

That is a tough track when you are slow - I bailed out at Castle Combe because although I could lap within 4 or 5 secs the lap was so short it was just too hectic. wd on your debut. Not sure how many laps I managed - you may have beaten me - I think you did  thumbup1

Well done to Ross and Attilio. Made it so close. Not novices any more methinks.
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