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May 03, 2011, 09:43:25 PM +0100 - Monaco (1929-71) - UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Novices (65)
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 Team		 Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
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Cookie
 		 Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 1 1:30.731
---		 1 40:27.497
---		 26 1:31.375
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Dunlop  
francesco
 Antipasti Racing		 Ferrari 512 F1 1965 11 +2.652
---		 2 +47.952
---		 26 1:32.997
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Dunlop  
JonnyO
 Team Coyote		 Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 4 +0.997
---		 3 +54.401
---		 26 1:32.396
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Dunlop  
happyal
 Clark-Hill Racing		 Ferrari 512 F1 1965 0 +2.314
---		 4 +1:09.703
---		 26 1:33.464
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Dunlop  
karlisss
 		 Honda RA272 F1 1965 2 +0.378
---		 5 (+5) +1:18.146
---		 26 1:31.186
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Goodyear  
Billy Nobrakes
 Black Night Racing		 Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 10 +2.462
---		 6 +1L
---		 25 ---
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Goodyear  
NHance
 Mountside Racing		 Brabham BT7 (Climax) F1 1965 6 +1.699
---		 7 +2.711
---		 25 1:32.240
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Dunlop  
roguk
 Clark-Hill Racing		 Cooper T77 (Climax) F1 1965 7 +1.946
---		 8 +10.011
---		 25 1:32.809
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Dunlop  
economia
 		 BRM P261 (1965) F1 1965 14 +5.793
---		 9 +19.700
---		 25 1:33.485
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Dunlop  
Nigel Smith
 HikiWazaRacing		 Honda RA272 F1 1965 8 +2.304
---		 10 +1:03.634
---		 25 1:34.153
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Goodyear  
BadBlood
 HikiWazaRacing		 Honda RA272 F1 1965 13 +4.912
---		 11 +3L
---		 23 1:37.430
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Goodyear  
blito
 Nessuna Speranza		 BRM P261 (1965) F1 1965 5 +1.518
---		 12 (+1) +7L
---		 19 1:33.595
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Dunlop  
maddog
 Antipasti Racing		 Cooper T77 (Climax) F1 1965 3 +0.743
---		 13 +9L
---		 17 1:31.347
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Dunlop  
il_lupo_mannaro
 Black Night Racing		 Ferrari 512 F1 1965 12 +4.512
---		 14 (+2) +10L
---		 16 1:34.140
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Dunlop  
blito
 Nessuna Speranza		 Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 15 DNS ---
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Goodyear  
maddog
 Antipasti Racing		 Cooper T77 (Climax) F1 1965 16 ---
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Dunlop  
5 UKGPL.65
 		 Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 17 ---
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Dunlop  

Moderator's Report

A debut for Monaco in the Novices, and a debut for several new UKGPL drivers.

The peace and quiet of Monaco lasted little more than a minute when the first slow corners heralded the first of several pile ups on this tight street circuit.

During this race there were a lot of warp related incidents as the server settings were not correct. There was also a re-occurence of the red tyres on Billy's car that we saw last season at Kyalami.

Because of this, there were a lot of reported incidents for near misses, small touches and odd car behaviour.

Where I have not mentioned a reported incident it has been put down to warp and will not be penalised. Where there is an incident where cars do touch, but may not have done had the server settings been correct, it has also been put down to warp and will not be penalised.

The server settings have now been changed and future races should be a lot more stable.

Only time will tell if the moderators will allow the Novices loose on such a tight circuit again.

Server replay time: 0h01m01s

Billy is dropped by the server and re-appears taking out Economia

Warp Incident

  • Racing incident

Server replay time: 0h01m34s

Billy is warping badly and makes contact with Fabio at Mirabeau but it is warp affected and he had slowed down to avoid him.

Warp Incident

  • Racing incident

Server replay time: 0h01m38s

Fabio tries to pass NHance on the inside of Virage De La Gare where there is no gap and the two make contact throwing NHance into the bales.

This follows the mayhem of a few seconds earlier and it is not clear whether it is an overtake attempt or not. Either way, Fabio is at fault and hits Norm, but I have mitigated the extra place penalty for a lap 1 incident in view of the confusion, mayhem and server mishaps.

Server replay time: 0h03m36s

NHance follows Billy through Virage De La Gare and taps him.
Both continue unaffected.

  • Racing incident

Server replay time: 0h03m40s

Karliss spins at tabac and is blocking the track.
He cannot see what is coming as he tries to get going again.
He should have moved forwards and to the right, away from the racing line, even taking a couple of short reverses if necessary.
Instead he moves forward and to the left which puts him on the racing line and heading towards oncoming traffic that cannot see him around a blind bend.
Jonny O slows to avoid him but cannot and is in turn hit by Blito.

Server replay time: 0h06m30s

Nigel nearly stops in time to avoid Fabio at Mirabeau, Fabio then rear ends Nigel at Virage De La Gare.

Fabio seems to lose control but makes no discernible contact.

  • Racing incident

Server replay time: 0h07m04s

Nigel Smith spins at the chicane.
Economia is following him and slows then takes avoiding action which sends him out of control and into Fabios path.
Nigel recovers and drives away but Fabio is out of control and ends up in front of him giving him nowhere to go.
Fabio can see the incident developing ahead of him as he exits the chicane but there are no yellow flags and he keeps accelerating until it is too late.
If Economia had not lost control Fabio may have got through cleanly but he should have taken more care approaching the incident.

Server replay time: 0h10m46s

Blito rear ends AlBaldwin under braking for Massenet. He had followed him for several laps leading up to the incident.
Al brakes marginally earlier than on the previous laps but only by a few feet.
Blito brakes later than on the previous laps and hits him.

Server replay time: 0h10m58s

BadBlood loses control at Gazometres and is warping badly as Economia tries to pass slowly but makes warp contact.

Warp Incident

  • Racing incident

Server replay time: 0h14m35s

Martin is approaching Gazometres and sees no yellow flags to tell him that Fabio is blocking the track.
He tries to avoid him but has nowhere to go.

  • Racing incident

Server replay time: 0h17m27s

Jonny O is lapping BadBlood at Virage De La Gare and BadBlood spins.
The server shows no contact and the Honda's reaction suggests warp.

Warp Incident

  • Racing incident

Server replay time: 0h18m05s

BadBlood had a novel way of letting Blito lap him.

I don't think it will catch on.

  • Racing incident

Server replay time: 0h20m28s

Norm loses control into Gazometres and is being hotly pursued by Karliss who also slides out of control. The 2 come to rest near the barrier and Karliss is able to continue but Norm also moves away and just touches him.

Both continue unaffected.

  • Racing incident

Server replay time: 0h36m11s

Billy is being followed into Gazometres by Karliss who is much later on the brakes, but Billy has won the corner easily.

Billy seems to take a wide line and Karliss tries to take advantage but there is not enough room and he has no overlap.

Karliss should have conceded the corner but touches Billy and spins him.

Server replay time: 0h38m28s

RogUK taps Billy going into Mirabeau and waits for him.
This causes some congestion and confusion in a tight part of the track and causes RogUK to collide with BadBlood at Virage De La Gare.

RogUK should have continued rather than wait on track for some people to pass but not others.

  • roguk (rog uk65) — advice — Do not wait to give a place back after an incident

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« Reply #45 on: May 05, 2011, 09:36:40 PM +0100 »
Quote from: francesco on May 05, 2011, 09:24:07 PM +0100
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Just want to check if Fran has a 'proper' qually time, if not we can put in something nominal.
After having realized that spectacular time i have given up to other lap ,anyhow i was first.Now i have this time registered in my PC like best practice time but my best time at Monaco in a race is 1,3166 and if i remember also in practice was not far from this time.
The record must be deleted but for the race i have given position,at the start ,to 4 or 5 cars.Is OK for the confermation of my second place?
According to the import your best race lap was 1.32.997 - tbh it really doesn't make any difference as only the fastest lap of the race holds any koudos as far as your driver statistics are concerned.

Yes you should technically have started in 11th but, as Phil pointed out in the registration thread, you are not required to forfeit a position due to timing mistakes.
So yes you are entitled to your 2nd place as it stands.
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« Reply #46 on: May 05, 2011, 09:39:32 PM +0100 »
Quote from: vosblod on May 05, 2011, 09:07:01 PM +0100
Quote from: karlisss on May 05, 2011, 08:44:17 PM +0100
but there is no Latvia... i can choose only Austri flag cos its quite similar to my flag
Go here and look under how to/other stuff/your country

I'm not sure we can reflect it in the lm2 import but there's probably something we can do.

PS: now fixed Fran's time, but again can't stop he highlight thing.

Would be nice if it could be changed, otherwise I remain Japanese!  Grin
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« Reply #47 on: May 06, 2011, 01:14:17 PM +0100 »
  Please, where is the link to the replay of daownload?
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« Reply #48 on: May 06, 2011, 01:17:58 PM +0100 »
Quote from: JonnyO on May 06, 2011, 01:14:17 PM +0100
  Please, where is the link to the replay of daownload?
Normally here http://www.jamesonline.net/ukgpl/ but Mike's server is out of action atm. Normal service will be resumed shortly.
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« Reply #49 on: May 06, 2011, 08:21:21 PM +0100 »
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Yes you should technically have started in 11th but, as Phil pointed out in the registration thread, you are not required to forfeit a position due to timing mistakes.
So yes you are entitled to your 2nd place as it stands.

Thank you Vos,now is all clear.
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« Reply #50 on: May 06, 2011, 08:49:23 PM +0100 »
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Quote from: JonnyO on May 06, 2011, 01:14:17 PM +0100
  Please, where is the link to the replay of daownload?
Normally here http://www.jamesonline.net/ukgpl/ but Mike's server is out of action atm. Normal service will be resumed shortly.

The server is back for mods to upload new replays, and I will put the Novices Monaco replay up after the Porsche race tonight. The archive is currently missing but I hope to get it back.

That is, if my new host haven't also lost my data.
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« Reply #51 on: May 07, 2011, 02:36:58 PM +0100 »
is there some chances to get my Monaco Fastest Race Lap into my racing history?
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« Reply #52 on: May 07, 2011, 10:31:53 PM +0100 »
Quote from: karlisss on May 07, 2011, 02:36:58 PM +0100
is there some chances to get my Monaco Fastest Race Lap into my racing history?
Really sorry but, due to the earlier timing issues, I can't get the system to re-recognise the correct fastest qually and lap times. I'm sure it will be the first of many FL's for you...
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« Reply #53 on: May 08, 2011, 10:08:04 PM +0100 »
doh!!! posted in wrong place Cheesy
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« Reply #54 on: May 18, 2011, 09:14:43 PM +0100 »
Quote from: Geoff65 on May 04, 2011, 10:58:00 AM +0100
Courtesy of JR Jason....steering wheel fix for the BT11.
Geoff.

http://clarkhillracing.freeforums.org/bt11-wheel-fix-t329.html


I just installed it but it didn't fix the problem... no no no
Any hints?
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« Reply #55 on: May 18, 2011, 09:38:30 PM +0100 »
Race Mod Published, padded room ordered.

Thanks everybody for making this hobby so enjoyable.

Any chance I can practise for my next race now?
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« Reply #56 on: May 18, 2011, 09:44:18 PM +0100 »
Great work Mike.  A lot of time and effort has gone into that report I Am Not Worthy
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« Reply #57 on: May 18, 2011, 10:29:08 PM +0100 »
It has but I should also thank Paul who helped me a lot.
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« Reply #58 on: May 19, 2011, 12:07:52 AM +0100 »
It was a pleasure - sort of. Hopefully the Glen will be a little easier to judge.
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« Reply #59 on: May 19, 2011, 08:49:03 AM +0100 »
more fun is to battle in track to get real race position (P5) witch will be dropped after penalty points to (P10)
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