UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Novices (65) - Monaco (1929-71) - May 3

[Hristo Itchov]

That mentality will eventually get you banned from one or more races...

[happyal]

more fun is to battle in track to get real race position (P5) witch will be dropped after penalty points to (P10)
than
racing confident and slower to get real race position (P10) without penalty points...

What about the other peoples races that you effect?

[karlisss]

ok.
you think i am doing it on purpose?
(that big accdent was my fault 300% and i appologized for that)
but here i talk about such small incidents, touching car etc, small shit witch happens cos you race not to be in P2.
there is no point from racing if you do slower than u can,
racing is risk, and everyone should understand that.
cos otherwise seems, in tracks like monaco i can race slow, cos car behind me will not overtake me, cos there just not room for that, or if car behind me will try to do that
more possible it will hit me, and will be penalized.
or you prefer racing slow and conservative?
everyone in race doing mistakes not because they race for checked flag, but because they doing best they can on limit.
otherwise it is tourism. or you can lottery race positions before race start, then it will be more safest way.

[happyal]

No, of course I don't think you are causing accidents on purpose.

[Hristo Itchov]

Karlis, there's no such thing as small incidents in GPL. With the way the collision model works and how warp/lag affects contacts between cars, even the smallest touch can lead to a devastating crash. That's why you simply can't afford to race too hard in GPL, it's a sign for lack of respect and you force the others around you to give way just to avoid accident and not because of your superior passing/battle skills. You can have hard but clean fought out races without having to go that far and it's still quite enjoyable.

The point was not whether you cause incidents intentionally or not, but whether you intentionally take too much of a risk or not.

[BadBlood]

there is no point from racing if you do slower than u can,

racing is risk, and everyone should understand that.

everyone in race doing mistakes not because they race for checked flag, but because they doing best they can on limit.
otherwise it is tourism. or you can lottery race positions before race start, then it will be more safest way.

Karliss. You are teriffically quick but you need to understand that driving on the limit does NOT mean pushing to the point where you lose it and take out 3 other people. Driving on the limit is understanding where you can drive fast without going beyond the point of control.

Obviously we will all lose it accidentally sometimes as we all exploring our personal limits. You have managed to pick up a mountain of penalty points though, which suggests that you are driving beyond your limit. If you cut it back a fraction you would almost certainly finish higher because you are cleaner. Look at H. How many times does he crash?

Drive within your limit. You are good enough to win races without affecting other people. If you go hell for leather and keep taking people out, you are going to get race bans. Nobody wants to see that.

Sorry H - posted at the same time. Echo all that.

[karlisss]

ok
i agree about respecting other drivers.
seems for me, i just need to work somehow on my metal strenght, but don't see how.
i am confused cos don't understund how is applied difference between
Racing Incident
and
Ambisious Overtake.

im confused now.
ps
anyway i am trying to do my best for clean racing. and what i sad about P5 vs P10, is idea to fight or surrender. Ok, im not so skilled to fight but it is ONLY FOR NOW

[Hristo Itchov]

It's simple really, especially when you race people you know. You just have to avoid placing them in a position where you will both end up crashing into each other unless the other driver eases off and gives you room. Sure, it happens from time to time, but if it happens regularly then it's something you need to address. Sticking to your lines, not cutting in front of people or turning into them, things like that. Use all your awareness and feedback from the sim (FF, sound, visuals) to position your car so you don't endanger others, at least not willingly.

Want to see how it's done? You simply have to watch one of the numerous battles me and Evil have had over the years. You'll see how we race both hard and fair. You can also watch the battle between myself and Clutch from the Snetterton Pro race, although I think he was a bit over-aggressive in his defense.  In any case, watching a replay can really give you an idea when you've crossed the border and when you haven't.

[maddog]

Ok, im not so skilled to fight but it is ONLY FOR NOW

Come to practice races, because people do not race the same as Ai.  We have some crashes, but this is not so bad when you race with friends.  You did this at Adelaide, and so it was a good race for you.  We learn from our mistakes, but not so good when the Moderator is looking at you.

[karlisss]

ok
i will try to do some practise race, but its difficult to get time for that. cos i mostly practise in mornings before work, and evenings i mostly spend with girfriend, when she arrives after work (family life)  
cos league race is what she respects, but foolin around PC gaming to much in our common time (few hours per day) is not worth

where i can get some replay where is good fair battle?
i had in watkins also fair batle, and i respected Cookies car, when after my mistake i realize, he is much faster. (i didnt head shot moves)

also want to ask question:
in real F1 there is a agreement for one trajectory change per lap, during fight, what about Novice races here?
in watkins i did my best and clienest race ever, and that was a Q, during fight with Cookie in my head.

[Hristo Itchov]

Replays of recent races here - http://www.jamesonline.net/ukgpl/

[vosblod]

The recommended driver behaviour is a good place to start for advice.
As regards the difference between a racing incident and penalty situation we base our moderating on the UKGPL rules and review each situation in light of this. Specific rules on blocking/weaving are here.

[il_lupo_mannaro]

Courtesy of JR Jason....steering wheel fix for the BT11.
Geoff.

http://clarkhillracing.freeforums.org/bt11-wheel-fix-t329.html

I just installed it but it didn't fix the problem...
Any hints?

Does anybody has a fixed FULL65 folder to upload here or somewhere else?
I'm getting mad tyring to solve such issue...
Thx in advance mates!

[paulwbird]

Hi all, long time no GPL, decided to dust off wheel etc. is this the best place to resurrect my glorious Hiki Waza career?

Cheers

Diki

[EvilClive]

It absolutely is Paul!!!!! welcome back !!  

SHE will be pleased to see the Ronin return 


psssst. suggest you go to "Announcements" and register which series you want to race in.

Hiki Waza have been fending off the green and red things for the past few seasons but we definitely need some re-inforcements.

I have ordered the pit crew to take off their fundoshis and use them to polish yet another of HER glorious machines in readiness. ( I suggested they do it after dark, so as not to frighten anyone )